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Auto Critical Orange Punch
Dutch Passion
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Neutral
She was a heavy foliage producer. Had I known that she wasn't an auto, I would've done a lot more training and defoliating to keep bud sites open. Otherwise she was a very easy grow. I did run into some Cal-Mag issues early on. She started throwing variegated leaves. I increased her Cal-Mag intake and that went away. i love Cal-Mag!
The Outcome
Week 19
Harvest
What's on the scales?
122.47
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
153.09
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
34.14
ft²
Grow Room size
3.59
g / m²
122.47
g / plant
0.03
plant / m²
Tastes like
Citrus
Flowery
Herbs
Feels like
100% Sativa 0% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Energetic
Hungry

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Dry mouth
Nutrients
This stuff is the best! I saw noticeable difference in the plants appearance and aroma each time I added it to my feeding mixture.
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Quexos Quexos
4 years ago
This was supposed to be a simple auto grow, but someone had different plans. She never flowered, despite giving her 10 weeks. I decided to treat her like a photo. i up-potted to a 7g smart pot then flipped her to a 12/12 light cycle. After that it was a smooth sailing. She flowered for about 10w and produced a goodly amount of dense, fragrant buds.
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Grow Questions
Quexos
Quexosstarted grow question 5 years ago
I could use a little feedback about my variegated leaves. I provided pictures. I would say she has about 10% variegation. Ph, PPM, Temps, Humidity, are all within normal parameters. I'm running a 260wQB in a 4x4 tent. She is about 20" from the light. Other plants are fine.
Solved
Leaves. Too many
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Stick
Stickanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hi @Quexos! This is genetic randomness, this can stunt the plant if the bleaching spread, since chlorophyll is essential to the photo-synthesis process. However I see your plant went through this issue and grew up nicely, this shouldn't be a problem anymore. Keep us up-to-date and happy growing! 👊
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 7
cut out the veg nutes and stop defoliating, switch to flower nutes and pray
Quexos
Quexos
@CRiSPrGrow, I gave it another week. There is still little change. I only used Recharge and no nutes at all. I'll just use plain water for a week or so and see if that helps. I can't completely stop defoliating. This strain puts out so many fat leaves, it shades everything above it. I'll try to keep it at a minimum if I can. Raising the light has had little effect on height either. Thanks for the ideas. Worse comes to worse, I can transplant into a larger pot, and treat her like a photo. The auto tent will be open in a few weeks.
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, I've never had any deficiencies in my grow before. I'm using a new brand of nutes though. I also switched soils, so who knows. Yeah, I don't want to haul that plant out of the tent every morning. I keep saying, "Give it one more week!"
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, I can appreciate that for sure. If it helps u make up your mind I’m actually the opposite with my feedings and switch to my bloom cycle of nutes the same week I flip the light sched. So far no deficiencies at all really. It follows botanicares recommended schedule too but every nute co. Will be a little different obviously. Whatever you do decide I’m hoping u won’t have to haul it in and out every damn day for 2 months - that would suck.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 5
Didn’t realize you had a recent upgrade and congrats! Lookn forward to my own in short order as well. Grows lookn good buddy👍. Question - you always grow with soil?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, 100% full recommendation - resilient and easy to grow IMO👍
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, Ack! Now its in writing! I havent grown enough yet to know my favorite strain. I really like to buy diesel strains, but I haven't grown any yet. Soon! I have some auto diesel seeds coming from a breeder in the U.S. I'm really excited.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, lol! Yeah she shot down the home brew idea right quick cuz I woulda done exactly that! Lol. And I agree whole heartedly - I have some staple strains (northern lights & diesel) but try to grow something different every grow as well. Gotta keep “diversifying” so to speak. As far as the light is concerned - the price is the other thing she doesn’t know... 😉👍
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ChainsawSanta
ChainsawSantaweek 12
Very nice plant you've got there! Super interested to see how she finishes up :)
Quexos
Quexos
@ChainsawSanta, Thanks a bunch! Other than not being an auto, she has been a dream to grow.
ChainsawSanta
ChainsawSanta
@Quexos,Interesting, well whatever she ends up being shes absolutely gorgeous. Very nice job taking care of her with that surprise twist haha!
Quexos
Quexos
@ChainsawSanta, No idea really. This seed was a freebie from Seedsman. It was labelled auto. I contacted Dutch Passion and they said it HAD to be mislabelled. They said there was zero chance it was one of their autos. I guess it could be the photo version.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 9
Dude - I really like the compromise for moving to flower👍. Probably the best option I have and maybe you end up just crushing the yield count on this grow🤞🤞🤞
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, Experience is key! I've only been growing for a year now. This will be my 4th and 5th grow. Every time I start, I think I have it dialed in for the perfect grow. But then you get snow storms, variegated leaves, autos that aren't, etc.. Keeps it interesting I guess.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, pretty much yeah. But only because we often forget we’re growing life at the end of the day. Sometimes it’s just what it is. I was chatting with a dude the other day about germ. Rates - we were both sitting at like 99% and then all of a sudden you go on a streak where like 75% don’t even pop... WTF?!?! That’s life I guess😂. Shit I’m dealing with it right now lol
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, This is the first time I've run into anything like this. I've had some plants take forever to show true flowers, but never an auto not auto! The longer I grow the more often these weird things are going to happen I guess.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 6
Where is is this mystical variegation u speak of? Gotta see it dude - can u snap a pic of it?
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, The only info I've been able to find is that this is an XXL seed. I would imagine that a high yielding plant might take longer to develop before it flips. You make a good point about genetics though. I just got some free seeds from Fastbuds. They are an AK47 style strain. supposedly they are the same way. They take a long time to flower, and they grow out of the tent! I had heard that about a lot of Pineapple Express. They are kinda wild!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, hear that and no worries. And I’ve seen this issue with autos before too. Pretty sure it was @dunkjunk Pineapple Express grow. Check it out and it might give u a timeline if ya got the same thing. Could just be that the ruderalis trait is weak or non-existent in er. No way to really know until she flowers.... or doesn’t. 🤔 his grow was messed up, And the results were ridonk!
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer,I know that in other plants its an adaptation to light. I had never seen it in plants.I wasn't worried at first, but I was reading one of the cannabis newsletters and they were talking about some sort of tobacco mosaic virus and it freaked me out. I'm not really worried anymore though. The only symptom is the variegation and that is probably genetic. I'm a little more concerned about this plant not going into flower. She will be 7 weeks this Friday and I am not seeing any pre-flowering at all. I can force flip her, but it would require me to pull her out of the tent daily and put her in a dark closet. I'm going to wait until the 7 week mark then maybe make a decision. Hey, thanks for looking at the photos. Always good to have another set of eyes.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 19
And we finally arrive at the end! Lol. She’s meaty buddy, good luck with the chop👍😎👌💪
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, that’s probably a better guesstimate than 8 regardless. It always seems somewhere around those weeks. Unless ur growing the grin - that strain is straight up fucked!
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, I used to go with the idea of a 10 week flowering period, but that doesn't work anymore.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, meh - I don’t really pay much attention to the weeks anymore. Anything around the 8 week mark seems about right and she finishes when she finishes. Ur about to be significantly rewarded for that extra veg. Time though - fo sho!
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 11
I’m hoping to have this veg. Problem on my hydro grow. Damn root rot cost me a whole week of growth and I’m freakn she’s gonna be stunted. It could always be worse and this thing will be a behemoth👍. Ur gonna rival some of the longest diaries on this site! Lol
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, you bet. 4 plant limit per property here so I’ll be running two on the back deck and 2 under the cobs (probably with a little cycle overlap to keep things steady😉). That said, I’ve also got access to another property and will be running at least a couple more over there too. My indoor space is the prime real estate now though - safest, most controllable and no access for anyone other than me and the misses👍
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, You have outdoor season coming up right? Are you going to run outdoors and under the COBs? I might be able to put a small auto in a pot outside. I worry about neighbors and meter readers.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, dude tell me about it. I have the exact same problem only with photos. Tried to sneak in an auto run before spring, ran into germ. Issues, now root rot and now I’m a month behind on a photo cycle for humbolt and spliff seeds😡. Only good news is that the new space and cobs are up and running👍. We’re behind on the grow list but the next runs are gonna be better than ever!
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 15
That twelve week veg. Is nuts dude - hope she pays off with a monster harvest. Lookn good👍😎👌
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, Yeah, she was certainly a problem child. She had all sorts of problems early on. There was the variegated leave thing. Then she started showing a lot of yellowing. Cal-Mag seemed to solve all of those problems though and she is super healthy looking. I ended up contacting Dutch Passion. They said to treat it like a photo since it was probably mis-labelled. They also said there was zero chance that it was an auto since it didn't flower on its own.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos,yeah mon - those 5-8 secondary’s will make all the difference IMO. Bet ur just happy that she actually/finally flowered! 😂😂😂
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, I really think she will produce. She has at least 5 major bud stalks going. There are another 5-8 secondary stalks that are right behind the top ones n development.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 9
looks like flowering to me bro, let s see if she decides to become and auto monster after all
Quexos
Quexos
@CRiSPrGrow, I guess. Its never happened to me, but I haven't been growing that long. I think its more likely the seed was not an auto. You are right though. "That's the way the genetics crumble!"
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@Quexos, these things happen right.... unfortunate but that's just the way genetics crumble sometimes right?
Quexos
Quexos
@CRiSPrGrow, She still isn't flowering. It does look like it, but that has been the case for about 4-5 weeks now. I'm going to transplant this weekend into a 7 gallon pot. Once she is recovered, I'm going to "flip" her.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 9
Re: scrog net - plant ties, nets or otherwise, either method should control height pretty well. Regardless, I think ur gonna end up with a 30” plant here dude😉👍😎
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Quexos, please show for sure dude. And yeah - ph is def. not the issue. For soil ur right in the wheel house👍
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, That's nothing. I was just worried it would get over 4 ft. I've been getting some weird discoloration on new leaf growth. It goes away as the leaf gets older, but I decided to look it up. I might be having pH problems. I did a slurry test and my soil is at 6.76 and 440 PPM. I can easily drop it, but 6.76 shouldn't be causing lock out of any sort. I'll put in some photos when I do my update this week.
420_observer
420_observerweek 19
Beautiful work !! Well done.
Quexos
Quexos
@@420_observer, Thanks!
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 17
Looks nice, healthy and strong. 💪🏽😀👊🏼
Quexos
Quexos
@Puffer_Bill, Thanks! I'm pretty happy with her.
magicUmbrella
magicUmbrellaweek 16
Cool one! Gl
Quexos
Quexos
@magicUmbrella, Thanks! It's been a long, long grow. This was supposed to be an auto!
smurgrow
smurgrowweek 14
Wow, this is a weird grow 😀 I hope it will transition into a nice photo period grow with big yields! Do you think the order got mixed up and they shipped photoperiod seeds?
Quexos
Quexos
@smurgrow, It was a freebie when I ordered from Seedsman. I contacted Dutch Passion about the problem. They recommended that I just treat it like a photo. They thought it was mis-labeled somehow. They said the chances of one of their autos not flowering was 0%! I'm not worried. She looks great right now! There are tons of viable bud sites. I have at least 5 bud stalks that are going to be huge! The only issue I'm having right now is trying to keep it defoliated enough to get light into the canopy. She is thick like a bush.
Finsfan
Finsfanweek 9
I can't believe she's still vegging. I've heard of autos doing that every once in awhile;luckily I've yet to experience this. Hopefully once u put lighting to 12/12 it makes a change; good luck! Liking great otherwise
Quexos
Quexos
@Finsfan, This is a first for me. I didn't know autos could not flower. She is growing like crazy since I repotted her into a 7g. container. I've also been adding Cal-Mag. She was looking a bit yellow. I'll give her another week to recover then I'll flip her. I think my other autos are ready for harvest. That opens up the tent.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 10
End of day prob. a good call on the transplant for sure dude. Make er a photo and run the light sched. Change I guess right? Re: leaf colouring - I wanna say mag. Deficiency right out the gate. Only problem is that it usually presents itself in older growth. More than likely (if there’s actually a problem because this going away) it’s root binding and may clear up in the next few days👍. Good luck with it dude🤞👊
Quexos
Quexos
@TheBudWhisperer, The girl is definitely making me earn my buds!
Finsfan
Finsfanweek 6
I'm growing same strain and my leaves fave some strange growth too them too
Quexos
Quexos
@Finsfan, I have no idea what causes that variegation. It doesn't seem to hurt the plant, unless you count not flowering when its supposed to!
Legalize_it
Legalize_itweek 2
Doing great man! Good luck! 👌🏻
Quexos
Quexos
@Legalize_it, Thanks! She is twice the size of these pictures today! She is soaking up the new feedings! I really think all of my plants go nuts for Recharge though!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 14
👍😎👍👌💪😎! Nuff said
GoldenFinger
GoldenFingerweek 19
wow was für ein inspirierender Beitrag;)