First Greenhouse 2019

@TC_Connoisseur, Yeah I did look at it, but at that price (at least here) I might as well do something closer to a greenhouse with some cheap plastic, I do know the colour affects it, yeah. Kinda tricky/pointless setting up some protection when the plants have been growing for 7 months though. And it would cause additional light issues in itself, so even that's a compromise (I mean, I painted my walls white and used white pots because of low light/heat issues). Sure, for future plants maybe, but then again, I'd rather have better plants to begin with or let them adapt, so I just germinated some of their offspring and now those offspring (randomly pollinated yay! Like God and Mary, but probably by something like moths) get to experience fairly temperate dry winter instead of EXTREME summer! Not expecting much, but at least I have some experience now. I'm not kidding though, I've spent about $100-200 on my current plants (mostly soil amendments like basalt, vermicompost, DE and random necessary stuff like pots and some equipment/perishables), but excluding water (which I minimize usage of), time, effort and now drying electricity costs (mostly just a fan). Much of that I wouldn't (have to) buy again. Of those initial 36 plants from random seeds (most males were chopped and a few from pots moved indoors), 24 are female, 1 clone (from a flowering plant, just to test), not a single autoflower (which are ridiculously easy to grow but have their genetic drawbacks, judging by a friend's plants), with another 27 seedlings going well and another 20 or so just germinated from my current flowering plants. Unfortunately though, due to the heavy environmental stress, looks like I'm going to have to be quite creative in trying to salvage some of my larger plants. I basically just let stuff grow and see what happens, which has given me a lot of insight tbh (especially situational/contextual) about the plants and environment I'm dealing with, pest issues, diseases, etc. What is really difficult to understand is nutrient/environmental specificity for these plants, since it varies quite a lot between my plants, effects of other plants around them, etc. I'm not huge on trying to control things, but I would like to know what does what.

@@Ssomeguy, If your talking about the Dry Ice Hash method of shaking the weed with dry ice in a bubble bag then I have done that several times, I do love the ease and yield you can get, but the quality isn't there. I normally use the dry Ice sift for either topical or edibles, it works great for either. You can also dust some on a bowl but its not the great full melt hash you can get from the Ice water method; also, you can't go backwards and use the dry ice sift to then make great hash in the bubble bags with water, there is too much broken down plant material. I like the idea of the normal ice, I'm assuming your talking about putting it directly on the soil above the root mass which would be fine for me since Im putting a 5cm-8cm thick layer of cedar mulch on top of my soil, which should prevent any shock or damage to the roots from getting direct contact with the ice cold water as it melts. I believe I read it in a High Times where they recommend for hydro growers with excessive temperatures in the grow room, but had temp control on their water reservoirs to chill down the root zone to beat the heat stress. I wouldn't go with Dry Ice directly on the soil though as it would likely frost burn some roots. The stones I'm also hesitant about because I know vineyards that love having stones under their vines to continue to radiate heat towards the grapes after the sun goes down. Have you tried Shade cloth? I would definitely look into it as an affordable option and it would help with the heat and light stress...If you do then color is actually important, in Vineyard studies they found that red cloth does increased fruit weight compared to green or black so spectrum does come into play for the plants.

@TC_Connoisseur, I'm sure I'll learn something, but I don't have a greenhouse (though looking to construct one or at least something approaching a greenhouse), I'm a noob, almost no budget so my thinking tends to be ghetto. I've been checking out dry ice extraction methods which probably led me to suggesting or thinking of using dry ice. I figured if for instance if I have smaller/younger plants at peak temperature times, maybe some smaller pieces of dry ice + normal ice with a cover temporarily and maybe something like stones around the plants could MAYBE work just before and during peak temp times (plants tend to use more carbon at higher heat too, from what I recall, can't be sure), effort though. Other than that, dry ice is fairly cheap here. 2kg + nice little coolerbox is like $4 (and that's about the lowest value option). Very situational, and I'm just taking almost random guesses, since I'd also like to know how to cool my plants. If I knew my plants were gonna grow as tall (3m+) as they did in the space they were in (60cm), I'd have definitely done some more preventative stuff (such as topping and a bigass cover), but I was worried about additional stress, couldn't really afford much and I can't do that at this stage. I've had terrible light/heat stress issues (not enough light early/late, too bright midday, same for heat, think boosted african sunlight in midsummer but only midday...and then all kinds of random weather), they're uncovered, etc, which has made them susceptible to all kinds of crap. Mostly been observational and reactionary (since I kinda want the plants, which are pretty much random, to adapt), with some sort of conservative approach in terms of trying to prevent what I could (or knew about), lots of research and stuff (obviously not enough), but since conditions vary so much and I'm inexperienced...

@TC_Connoisseur,that should be that theme ....about breeding, backcrossing stabilizing... that is a big part of growing i havent touched

@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks as always for your input and support! It is all a learning process for me too, I just try to find the best and most logical answer to what is happening, in other words plenty of theoretical knowledge but still working on the practical side every day. I'm not sure what part your talking about with the "Theat theme", assuming a typo there but if you clarify I might be able to point you in a direction to do some research of your own.

@TC_Connoisseur,just let her grow, either she change s(most time they do) or she stays a little weirerd. i wont be concerned at that stage

@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks! It's been fun getting out in a greenhouse for the first time, a lot more room to work compared to indoor so the layout has been fairly fun and easy so far. I have found some adjustments to make this week, you can read those up in the update for today ( 5/2/19 ). P.S. Have you ever seen anything that the GSC with the tiny curled in leaves? it is a first to me and it makes me wonder if the plant isn't going to grow like that forever...

@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks, I just wish I had known of this site to document my previous grows! Keep checking in! I'm going to do my best to do updates once or twice a week and I have a lot more setup left to do...RO for my Tea Brewer was just set up yesterday, hopefully I will have some new pictures of that up in a few days!

@Psilocubensis, You are correct, they are really hard to transplant out of, the roots seemed to be attached to the walls of the pot like Velcro. I was pretty gentle and took my time working it out of the pot and I did not notice any major stress, but it took a while. For that reason I returned to white 2gal(8L) plastic grow bags for the “teen” stage before putting in the final 45gal(170L) pot.

@3cflJohn, Would that be for the deformed growth on the GSCs? If so I have 2 that are doing the exact same thing, different soil all together so that factor is isolated but I would be more then willing to give this a shot on them, I'll go with foliar first to see if that helps and if so I'll start adding it to the water...I'm thinking its genetics or seeds that were stored improperly at this point, if nothing else one of them has actually started growing normally so there is some hope.

@CoastGrower, Hopefully! If these (2) don't work then I'll just have to grow a duplicate of a different strain. Thanks!

@Strife957, Thank you, it's been a fun project so far!

@GrowBeforeHoe, Thanks!