Suemchen Starting her directcly in soil
Let's see how she does ๐ค
I was really lucky and got selected to grow this amazing new strain. The seeds were sent to me by Super Sativa Seed Club. Iโm now part of a the contest, and Iโm really excited.
Keep your fingers crossed and happy growing ๐
15 likes
10 comments
Share
Used method
Directly In Substrate
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation
4mo ago
1/4
4 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
150 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
0.01 liters
Pot Size
0.01 liters
Watering Volume
80 cm
Lamp Distance
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 40%
Day 1: She broke the soil and is looking good ๐ค
Day 3: looking good ๐ค she's devolping nicely ๐๐ป nothing to report ๐๐ป
Day 5: looking good ๐๐ป still keeping the soil moist
Day 7: developing nicely๐๐ป nothing Special right now๐
17 likes
2 comments
Share
2
Week 2. Vegetation
4mo ago
1/7
4 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
150 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
0.5 liters
Pot Size
0.1 liters
Watering Volume
80 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Root-Juice
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO -3 60 190W at 40%
Day 8: Looks OK, a little scrawny but oh well. Will transplant her into a bigger Pot tomorrow ๐๐ป
Day 9: didn't have time for her today, probably tomorrow
Day 10: developing OK, did nothing today ๐๐ป
Day 11: looking good ๐๐ป
Day 12: planted her into a bigger pot๐๐ป: watered with rain water and 1ml/l Root Juice + 1ml/l Powerzyme. Added Mycorrhizal and a little Dolomit Lime to the soil.
Day 13: looking allright๐๐ป nothing to report for today๐๐ป
Day 14: looking good ๐ค developing nicely๐๐ป
14 likes
comments
Share
Used techniques
Transplantation
Technique
3
Week 3. Vegetation
4mo ago
1/6
4 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
150 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
0.5 liters
Pot Size
0.1 liters
Watering Volume
80 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Root-Juice
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO -3 60 190W at 40%
Day 15: Looks good ๐๐ป watered with supplements: rain water and 1ml/l Root Juice + 1 ml/l Powerzyme ๐๐ป
Day 16: looking good ๐๐ป did nothing today ๐ค
Day 17: also today, nothing was done๐๐ป
Day 18: Looking really promising ๐๐ป watered with supplements: rain water and 1ml/l Root Juice + 1 ml/l Powerzyme ๐๐ป
Day 20: looking good ๐๐ป letting her grow ๐ค
Day 21: looking good ๐ค watered with supplements: rain water and 1ml/l Root Juice + 1 ml/l Powerzyme ๐๐ป
14 likes
comments
Share
4
Week 4. Vegetation
4mo ago
1/4
4 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
150 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
0.5 liters
Pot Size
0.1 liters
Watering Volume
80 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Root-Juice
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO -3 60 190W at 40%
Day 23: Looks good ๐๐ป watered with supplements: rain water and 1ml/l Root Juice + 1 ml/l Powerzyme
Day 25: looking good ๐๐ป watered with supplements: rain water and 1ml/l Root Juice + 1 ml/l Powerzyme ๐๐ป
Day 27: watered today with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป
Day 28: looking good ๐๐ป Topped her today ๐๐ป
11 likes
comments
Share
Used techniques
Topping
Technique
5
Week 5. Vegetation
3mo ago
1/3
8 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
400 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
0.5 liters
Pot Size
0.2 liters
Watering Volume
80 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
TNT Complex
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO -3 60 190W at 40%
Day 29: Magnesium deficiency, she'll get Cal Mag tomorrow ๐๐ป
Day 32: looking better with a little Cal Mag. Watered with 1ml/l and also some TNT Hesi (1ml/l). PH of 6.4 and an EC of 0.8. ๐๐ป
Day 34: everything fine, she'll get a bigger pot today ๐๐ป Watered with 1ml/l Cal Mag and TNT Hesi (1ml/l). PH of 6.4 and an EC of 0.8.
12 likes
comments
Share
6
Week 6. Vegetation
3mo ago
1/5
8 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
400 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
0.3 liters
Watering Volume
60 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
TNT Complex
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO -3 60 190W at 60%
Day 36: Bigger Pot with Plagron All Mix. . Watered with 1ml/l Cal Mag and also some TNT Hesi (1ml/l). PH of 6.4 and an EC of 0.8.
Day 37-47: On Vacation, automatic watering with Rain water.
13 likes
comments
Share
Used techniques
Transplantation
Technique
7
Week 7. Vegetation
3mo ago
1/4
15 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
400 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
0.3 liters
Watering Volume
60 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
TNT Complex
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 60%
Day 37-47: On Vacation, automatic watering with Rain water.
Day 47: Automatic watering system Watered way to much ?. Better than Last year though ๐คฃ. Letting the soil dry out and then I'll see how she took IT.๐
Day 48: looking better ๐ค, needs more Magnesium and the soil is still very wet. Needs to dry out more๐๐ปadded Plagron All-Mix Soil to the top๐
Day 49: looking good ๐ค almost dry๐ค
11 likes
comments
Share
8
Week 8. Vegetation
3mo ago
1/5
18 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
400 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
0.3 liters
Watering Volume
60 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 5
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
TNT Complex
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 60%
Day 50: she's looking better every day, the pot is still heavy though. She soaked up quite a bit of water as IT seems. Still no watering.
Day 51: Just a little Lst. Still no watering ๐๐ป
Day 53: looking good ๐ค Soil is still a little moist ๐๐ป didn't water or so anything today๐๐ป
Day 56: getting there: Soil is finally drying out๐๐ป
13 likes
3 comments
Share
Used techniques
LST
Technique
9
Week 9. Vegetation
2mo ago
1/4
22 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
22 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
550 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
0.3 liters
Watering Volume
60 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
TNT Complex
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 60%
Day 57: looking good and watered for the first time again. I let the soil dry out completely. Watered with rain water and 1 ml/l Powerzyme, 1 ml/l TNT, 1 ml/l Cal Mag 1 ml/l Alg a Mic. EC at 1.1 and a pH of 6.4 ๐๐ป
Day 59: looking good ๐ค she recovered really nicely๐๐ป about a week now and then I'll switch to 12/12 ๐๐ป
Day 62: looking good ๐๐ปWatered with rain water and 1 ml/l Powerzyme, 1 ml/l TNT, 1 ml/l Cal Mag 1 ml/l Alg a Mic. EC at 1.1 and a pH of 6.4 ๐๐ป Switched the Lights to 12/12
12 likes
1 comment
Share
10
Week 10. Flowering
2mo ago
1/4
26 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
1 liters
Watering Volume
60 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
CalMag Pro
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 64: Flipped the Lights to 12/12 and raised the Power of the Lights to 80%
Day 67: she's Stretching watered today with supplements: 1ml/l Green Sensation, 1ml/l Cal Mag, 2 ml/l Powerzyme. Rain water and a little tap water to get to an EC of 1.6 and a pH of 6.4๐๐ป Removed some Fan leaves and started to Lollipop her๐๐ป
Day 69: Today she got rain water from me๐ค She's drinking a lot because it's really hot outside right now. IT should cool down in a couple days to more tolerable
temperatures ๐๐๐
12 likes
3 comments
Share
Used techniques
Defoliation
Technique
12-12
Technique
11
Week 11. Flowering
2mo ago
1/4
45 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
1 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 7
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Boost
1 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO -3 60 190W at 80%
Day 71: Looks good ๐๐ป watered with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป Stretching really nice ๐ค
Day 73: looking good and watered again, it's really warm right now ๐. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 1 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.6 and a pH of 6.4 . Defoliated quite a bit ๐๐ป
Day 76: Looks nice๐ Watered today with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป
11 likes
4 comments
Share
Used techniques
Defoliation
Technique
12
Week 12. Flowering
2mo ago
1/6
57 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 7
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
2 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 79: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 1 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.6 and a pH of 6.4 . Defoliated quite a bit. She stretched quit a Bit๐๐ป
Day 81: Looks great ๐๐ป buds are forming nicely. No water today: soil is still a little moist ๐๐ป
Day 83: She's really thirsty ๐ Watered with rain water and 2 ml/l Powerzyme, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.6 and a pH of 6.4
Day 84: looking really nice ๐ค did nothing today ๐๐ป
7 likes
comments
Share
Used techniques
Defoliation
Technique
13
Week 13. Flowering
2mo ago
1/8
66 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Weak
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 7
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
2 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 85: watered with rain water and 1 ml/l Cal Mag ๐๐ป
Day 87: Defoliated and watered with rain water and 1 ml/l Cal Mag ๐๐ป
Day 90: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 1 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.6 and a pH of 6.4 .
9 likes
1 comment
Share
Used techniques
Defoliation
Technique
14
Week 14. Flowering
1mo ago
1/5
68 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Weak
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 7
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
2 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 92: watered with rain water and 1 ml/l Cal Mag ๐๐ป
Day 94: watered today again ๐ used rain water and 1 ml/l Cal mag๐๐ป
6 likes
comments
Share
15
Week 15. Flowering
1mo ago
1/10
72 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Weak
Smell
900 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 9
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 99: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic, 1 ml/l root Juice, 0.5 ml/l Bloom Complex and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.8 and a pH of 6.4 .
Day 101: looking good ๐ค watered with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป
Day 102: watered again๐. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic, 1 ml/l root Juice, 1.5 ml/l Bloom Complex and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.8 and a pH of 6.4
Day 104: watered with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป Defoliated a little and Lollipoped her to her final Form.๐ค
8 likes
3 comments
Share
Used techniques
Defoliation
Technique
16
Week 16. Flowering
1mo ago
1/8
72 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
1000 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 9
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 106: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Alg a mic, 1 ml/l root Juice, 0.5 ml/l Bloom Complex and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 2.0 and a pH of 6.4 .
Day 108: looking really good ๐ค watered with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป Defoliated a little ๐๐ป
Day 111: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, and 1 ml/l Green Sensation.
8 likes
1 comment
Share
Used techniques
Defoliation
Technique
17
Week 17. Flowering
20d ago
1/8
72 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
1000 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 9
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 113: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, and 1 ml/l Green Sensation
Day 115: Watered with rain water, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, and 1 ml/l Green Sensation
Day 119: looking good ๐๐ป watered with out supplements ๐๐ป Just rain water ๐๐ป
8 likes
5 comments
Share
18
Week 18. Flowering
13d ago
1/8
72 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
500 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 9
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 120: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, and 1 ml/l Green Sensation
Day 123: looking good and watered ๐. Watered with rain water and 1 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.0 and a pH of 6.4 .
Day 126: looking good and watered again. Watered with rain water and 1ml/l Powerzyme, 1 ml/l Hesi Boost, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, 1 ml/l Bloom Complex and 1 ml/l Green Sensation. EC at 1.0 and a pH of 6.4.
10 likes
2 comments
Share
19
Week 19. Flowering
6d ago
1/9
72 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
26 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
500 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
22 ยฐC
Solution Temp
22 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
22 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
5 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 9
Dolomit Lime
1 mll
PowerZyme
1 mll
Boost
2 mll
Suemchen Sanlight EVO 3-60 at 80%
Day 127: did nothing today ๐๐ป
Day 128: looking good and watered again๐. Watered with rain water, 1 ml/l Cal Mag, and 1 ml/l Green Sensation.
Day 130: the Journey has come to an end: Harvested
Harvest Day 130
Day 130 and the Gassy One has finally reached harvest! ๏ธ
This plant turned out really impressive. The buds are large, extremely dense and nicely compact, with a heavy coating of frosty trichomes. The flowers have developed beautifully during the final weeks and have a really solid structure.
And the smell is absolutely insane! It is very pungent, intense and penetrating, with a strong gassy aroma that hits you immediately when you get close to the plant. Definitely one of the most powerful-smelling plants I've grown so far.
The long flowering time was definitely worth it. The buds look mature, heavy and packed with resin.
Now it's time for drying and curing. I'm really curious to see how this incredible aroma develops over the next few weeks.
Harvest Day: 130
Strain: Gassy One
Breeder: Super Sativa Club
Bud structure: Large & extremely dense ๐ชจ
Aroma: Very pungent, intense & strongly gassy
Status: Harvested ๏ธ
Can't wait for the final dry weight and smoke report!
Gassy One โ Smoke Report
After drying and curing, I finally got to try the Gassy One โ and she definitely lives up to her name!
The aroma is incredibly strong and pungent, with a deep, intense gassy smell that was already impressive before smoking. After curing, the aroma became even more pronounced and complex.
The flavour is fantastic, with a strong gassy character and a smooth, enjoyable finish. The dense, resin-covered buds make for a really satisfying experience.
Overall, I'm very impressed with this strain. The combination of huge, compact buds, insane smell and great flavour makes the Gassy One one of my favourites from this grow.
Overall rating: 10/10
Definitely a strain I would grow again!
Show more
Translate
Spent 135 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
200 g
Bud wet weight per plant
85 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.36 mยฒ
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Relaxed, Sleepy
Positive effects
Dry mouth, Dry eyes
Negative effects
Pain, Stress
Medical effects
Sour, Diesel
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa
Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
1/11
Suemchen Harvest Day 130
Day 130 and the Gassy One has finally reached harvest! โ๏ธ
This plant turned out really impressive. The buds are large, extremely dense and nicely compact, with a heavy coating of frosty trichomes. The flowers have developed beautifully during the final weeks and have a really solid structure.
And the smell is absolutely insane! ๐คฏ๐ฅ It is very pungent, intense and penetrating, with a strong gassy aroma that hits you immediately when you get close to the plant. Definitely one of the most powerful-smelling plants I've grown so far.
The long flowering time was definitely worth it. The buds look mature, heavy and packed with resin.
Now it's time for drying and curing. I'm really curious to see how this incredible aroma develops over the next few weeks. ๐๐ฟ
Harvest Day: 130
Strain: Gassy One
Breeder: Super Sativa Club
Bud structure: Large & extremely dense ?
Aroma: Very pungent, intense & strongly gassy โฝ๐ฅ
Status: Harvested โ๏ธ
Can't wait for the final dry weight and smoke report! ๐ฅ
@Suemchen, yes, now it Looks really better. Sometimes it needs time and we are too hectic with the plants. I have started with Hydroponic (my record was 350g dry with Automatics), if you do it right the plants look fucking healthy, but the taste is Not there. Switched over to Autopots and veganics, less yield but better taste