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SkinnyJoe SkinnyJoe
5 years ago
Hi guys! hope you're doing well ๐Ÿ’ช I don't know, but it seems to me that the flowers haven't stretched. I compared this Cheese XXL with a White Widow xxl (grown from February to May) looking at photos from the same growth stage. I saw that the white widow, before the buds become fatter, had very long branches full of flowers at their initial stage, while with this cheese I see that, although we're at day 59 from seed and buds begin to fatten, the branches are short. I think that excessive heat has greatly affected environmental conditions (VPD value is certainly not optimal) preventing more vigorous growth and development. What do you think about it? Anyway, we'll see what the final results will be. Happy growing ๐Ÿ‘Š
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Grow Questions
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoestarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi Guys, based on your experience, how many days after the seed has sprouted is it necessary to switch on the air circulation system? Thanks for your help!๐Ÿ™
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Stick
Stickanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hi @SkinnyJoe! As soon as your seedling has sprouted, it needs a decent airflow. However, at such young age, you don't want a fan directly blowing on your baby, but you need air to circulate around the plant. Just don't put the fan right in front of the plant, make sure the seedling is slowly moving but not shaking (slight breeze, no big wind) and you will be fine. Happy growing! ๐Ÿ‘Š
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoestarted grow question 5 years ago
I noticed a couple of light yellow/white tips (new leaves) could it be light burn? and on older leaves I noticed some gray/whitish edge and some yellow/light brown edge. I don't think it's overfeeding (I've just started) could it be calcium deficiency? Thanks for your help ๐Ÿ™
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey there, that's a magnesium deficiency, you can tell from the yellowing between the veins and the burning / discoloration on the sides of the leafs affecting the older leafs first. It has nothing to do with NPK nutrients or light burn, but it's actually due to the high heat and "intense" light schedule, see : magnesium is used to regulate metabolism (which is itself regulated by temperature and humidity through something called VPD) and photosynthesis so with high heat and lots of light you'll get magnesium deficiencies as the plant isnt able to absorb enough quick enough. So you've already started adding some to the feed, that's good, maintain that. I would recommend also making it into a foliar spray like 3ml/L and just spray it on two to three times a week shortly before lights on or shortly before lights off. uptake by the leafs is 85% efficient compared to 15% through the roots. You should really try to get those temps down (have you considered an evaporative cooler?) and maybe even reduce the light schedule a touch too reduce the stress on the plant. Hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoestarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi Guys, what do you advise me to do for the last 2 weeks? -flushing and stop feeding -simply stop feeding (without flushing) -feed only with the BioBoost for the last 2 weeks (as suggested by Biocanna) Thank you for your help ๐Ÿ’ช
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Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensanswered grow question 5 years ago
Ok well first of all my friend you should always flush your medium I have and so have so many people smoked unflushed buds they taste horrible ..when you put all that effort into making a beautiful girl and look after her , don't skip out on that vital phase ..I would or I have flushed for 7-9 days the first day I put in florakleen to get rid of salt buildups in the soil and then I flushed with plain PhD water .the rest of the time the last few days I put ice and cold water into the pot and on the last very last two days put her into the darkness for about 32hours ...she smelt good and the ash burned white that flush is killer important from what I have seen best of luck with the harvest buddy..
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SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoeweek 1
- DAY 4 UPDATE - Things are getting hot here...with the light on, the temperature rises to 35.3ยฐ C (โ€ญโ€ช95ยฐ F), I think it's too hot. I think I should buy a portable air conditioner as soon as possible, to try to lower temperature around 26 ยฐ C.
motaman311
motaman311
@@SkinnyJoe, ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ hope that Air conditioner will work. Sure you already know, but if there are any lights on that stuff to blacken them out/cover the lights. My dehumidifier glows green even when i cover the lights, so I cant put it in my tent ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ƒ.
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@@motaman311, yes, my extractor is positioned at the top. Unfortunately my grobox does not have openings at the bottom large enough to insert an intake fan, there is only the hole at the bottom for the cables. So I mounted the intake fan in another hole at the top, and there is a clip fan for air circulation. It's hot here! I hope the mini air conditioner can help me, otherwise I'll have to consider bringing everything in my garage, but sadly I won't be able to do it very quickly.
motaman311
motaman311
@@SkinnyJoe, Do you have passive intakes open at the bottom of the tent? Also, have your extraction fan at the top. If you could turn down your lights, that will help with your high temperature.
Tryhard
Tryhardweek 13
Congratulations its looks dank as fxxx enjoy the benefits of your hard work
Tryhard
Tryhard
@@SkinnyJoe,you 2 man
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@@Tryhard, thank you man ๐Ÿ™, have a dope weekend ๐Ÿ‘ฝ
Stick
Stickweek 1
Hi @@SkinnyJoe! As soon as your seedling has sprouted, it needs a decent airflow. However, at such young age, you don't want a fan directly blowing on your baby, but you need air to circulate around the plant. Just don't put the fan right in front of the plant, make sure the seedling is slowly moving but not shaking (slight breeze, no big wind) and you will be fine. Happy growing! ๐Ÿ‘Š
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
Hi @Stick, thank for your help! got it! I connected my air extractors to a dimmer to keep them at low speed. The problem I encountered with continuous air circulation (even at low speed) is that my small humidifier cannot keep humidity at 60% as I would like (it rises to 45% max). I'll try to turn on the extractors at 15 min intervals to see how it goes with the humidity. thank again!
Rwein93
Rwein93week 13
Siiiiiiii!!! Amico ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช Delle gran belle cime! sembrano veramente compatte!๐Ÿ‘ Ottimo lavoro๐Ÿ” Ho seguto il tuo diario dall inizio, molto bello. Continua cosรฌ man. Restiamo in contatto๐Ÿ˜‰
DILLIGAF
DILLIGAFweek 5
Hi there @@SkinnyJoe so your plants are starting the flowering stretch they are going to be very hungry during this stage so whatever you do , do not back down on the nutes but dont overfeed either. once the blooms start developing I would give them higher doses of potassium as they look a tiny bit deficient in that area. Other than that keep up the great work.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 5
Hey there, with your high heat have you thought about using any co2 products? I know they can help battle those temps above 85. Co2 can be a little stressful but that TNB Naturals company has the water only option.โœŒ๏ธ
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoeweek 5
- DAY 33 UPDATE - Hi guys! thank you for your help and your advise! So, I see those withe pistils! Do I have to switch right away to bloom nutes? or should I wait for the flowers to grow more?
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@@SkinnyJoe, Hello my friend ๐Ÿ‘ As your just starting the flower phase I would continue to feed you vegative feed for the next 5-7 day's then do a transition to your bloom/flower nutrients ๐Ÿ‘ You've done a fine job with the training work and that's now going to pay off as you enter bloom ๐Ÿ‘Š Until next time my friend ๐Ÿ‘ All the best โœŒ๏ธ Mark..
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoeweek 3
Hi guys! any suggestions about LST (bend and secure)? when to start? as soon as possible? is it better to wait for the plant to have 5-6 nodes? Is it better to wait for the plant to reach a certain height?
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@@SkinnyJoe, I would say node 5 to node 6 is perfect for topping, training can he started pretty early on but be gentle in the early stages ๐Ÿ‘ All the best โœŒ๏ธ Mark..
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobweek 2
Day 11 to day 12 ? So much growth in 24 hours๐Ÿ˜‰
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBob
@@SkinnyJoe, i believe you. My cheese xxl is also super fast. Super genetic!
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@@ShotGunBob, she started great, but I have to say that maybe I took one photo on the morning of the 12th and the other one the evening of the 13th
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 5
Hey there, hope i answered your question, for more info on VPD check this : https://getpulse.co/blog/vpd, otherwise all it is is a magnesium deficiency but it will turn into all sorts of symptoms because magnesium is used to regulated NPK uptakes too... Anything else you need just drop me a message ๐Ÿ‘Š
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@SkinnyJoe, VPD is a ... it's a thing, for sure... it varies from veg to flower, and these are just guidelines right? so you have to fine tune it based on your own situation, but for sure you should be around 1.4 better than 3 lol, that's why i wanted you to know about this...
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@CRiSPrGrow, thank you for your advise! this thing blown my mind! I've been wondering for a while if there were any values or index to evaluate the effectiveness of environmental conditions. So I rapidly read some stuff about VPD, I executed the formulas and, with a daytime temperature of 36 ยฐ C and an average RH 50%, I calculated my VPD value. The value I found is 2.96, which corresponds to the VPD value represented on the "getpulse" grid for a temperature of 97 ยฐ F and 50% RH. If I understand correctly, I must try to stay in the optimal sweetspot acting either on the temperature or on the relative humidity. Now, since I can't act on the temperature, according to the getpulse grid I could then raise the relative humidity to 76 and have a value of VPD of 1.4 (the greenest) ..... is it correct?
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 5
By the way there are three criteria for VPD : the temperature, the RH, and the temperature at the leafs itself... so you need to buy a cheap laser thermometer to measure that. i'm just saying because it took me a long time to understand that lol ๐Ÿš€
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@SkinnyJoe, so basically with VPD you take the temp of the room minus the temp of the leaves which should be between 0 and 5 and based on the 'leaf temperature difference" you then calculate your exact vpd... download the pulse spreadsheet because it's annoying going online and there's more options... i was really going crazy about it before but now i'm more chilled lol... it will be much the same for you i guess lol good luck man !
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@CRiSPrGrow, I just bought it on amazon to try it, thanks again for the tip ๐Ÿ™
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedsweek 2
Our Cheese XXL auto is becoming very popular on the grow diary platform ๐Ÿ‘ Apart from the excessive heat issues which your getting under control you look to be of to a nice start ๐Ÿ‘Œ Best of luck with the grow my friend. I'll tag along for the ride and be watching with interest ๐Ÿ‘Š All the best โœŒ๏ธ Mark..
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@@SkinnyJoe, My best advice would be to do a minimum of 10 days plane water flush. Preferably 14 day's with just water and some molasses added. Final 7 days only water to flush all that excess feed out the end product ๐Ÿ‘Œ That should do it my friend ๐Ÿ‘ All the best โœŒ๏ธ Mark..
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@DinafemSeeds, Thank you Mark, I hope to repeat the excellent results achieved with Dinafem White Widow auto xxl, but this time I want to avoid getting slightly over fertilized at the end of flowering. any comment or suggestion will be very useful to me ๐Ÿ˜ thanks again, peace โœŒ๏ธ
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedsweek 13
Best wishes for the upcoming harvest my friend ๐Ÿ‘ You've done a fine job with our genetics and it's nearly time for your reward ๐Ÿ‘Œ Our Cheese XXL Auto has performed really well in your garden mate, oh love the macro shots also ๐Ÿค— Time to get those scissors out and your fingers sticky buddy ๐Ÿ‘Œ All the best โœŒ๏ธ Mark..
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@DinafemSeeds, Thank you Mark! This cheese had hard time with the whole cycle at an average of 35ยฐ C!!! but finally she did it. can't wait to start the new cycle! I will grow 2 Dinamed CBD (so excited to try it) and 1 Moby Dick. Thank you for your support, all the best ๐Ÿ’ช
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobweek 6
Beautiful plant!
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@@ShotGunBob, thank you man ๐Ÿ™
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobweek 8
Did you defoliated her?
SkinnyJoe
SkinnyJoe
@@ShotGunBob, never done, I prefer not to do it with autoflowering.
Denzul
Denzulweek 7
That's an impressive bush you got on your hands there. Lots of bud sites popping up. Shes a beauty. Nice work. Keep doing what your doing and best of luck the rest of the way.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 13
wowowowow brava growmico ! it's an honor to be featured on your dashboard, glad my advice was good enough to help you, and of course it's fantastic when you can see the effect of your words in a positive way
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 6
if this is your first grow ever, then wow, ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ bravo bravo , the quality looks perfect for my my friend !