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weeks 7-13
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weeks 9, 11
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Week 12
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58.42
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Shit ton ‘o lady bugs
20 ml/l
Organic Fertiliser Tablets - Bio Tabs
Organic Fertiliser Tablets
3 ml/l
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TheBudWhisperer TheBudWhisperer
4 years ago
Week 12 update - it’s hard to stay positive after losing a plant to something like this but we’re still happy to report that the aphid issue is “under control” at the moment🤞. The defos and cleaning have done a lot and the ladybugs have done the rest. We’re still dealing with stragglers so it’ll probably be an ongoing battle and one we might not even win🤷‍♂️. She’s developing really well however and she’s showing some true resistance which is good. Cautious optimism right now👍😬 Background Original Sensible has been in the bizz for 25 some odd years and has its roots in the UK. Don’t know much about em but I do know I liked the photos of their Bruce Banner Auto so had to pick up some beans. This strain Looks to be a balanced hybrid consisting of some real faves - Colorado Ghost OG x Strawberry Diesel x Auto Ghost OG. She’s reported as a short flower’r - even for an auto at about 65-70 days. Let’s see what happens - Hulk smash! If you’ve seen most of my other stuff than you know I’m huge on botanicare. That said and due to some gentle prodding, we’re expanding our horizons and giving the full Biotabs nute lineup a try. The grow will be in a straight soil/perlite mix - entirely organic. It’ll be interesting to see how this nute regimen stacks up against a companion grow with BioBizz products but in either case I’m not expecting huge yields. Just the bud and smoke quality that the hardcore organic growers all rave about. Thanks for taken a look.👍😎👊
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Tryhard
Tryhardweek 1
Good luck bro all best will be following
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@@Tryhard, 👊👊👊
Tryhard
Tryhard
@TheBudWhisperer,your a experience grower and I'm 100 percent certain this will be another very good diary form your self and it will all work out fine
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@@Tryhard, cheers dude. Gonna need it - hopp’n in the organic train for a test run😉
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 2
the famous biotabs run you've been planning for a year now ! fun times 🚀
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@TheBudWhisperer, if it's rotten and gone off dont use it obviously, sometimes it goes off in the shipping/transport thing , gets too thick or gross... check it out lol but you know know what's up lol 😅
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@CRiSPrGrow, yeah finally got around to it. Doing a break cycle between photo runs so figured I’d try all the organic nute swag I have with autos. So far so good but that spray dude - seriously. It smells like cat gizz mix with dead people.🤮
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 7
worse problems to have hombre - what gonna be the solution? [you gonna have a monsta on yer hands shortly!] 👊👺👊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, very true! And I’m still workn through a solution. Options are kinda limited given the pot size and I can’t let er veg. Forever. Trying to stay with the run sched. Too so this is a bit of a head scratcher🤷‍♂️. Any ideas?
MovingOn
MovingOnweek 7
You can actually still occasionally get photos from an auto mother if the strain hasn't been completely stabilized.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@MovingOn, indeed! But in hindsight I kinda had my suspicions based on the labels😂. Mo grows, mo problems right👍
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 2
strong start early doors hombre 💪 👊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, must be the disgusting spray... unreal how much this stuff stinks bro. Not sure if it’s working but the progress is good for a soil medium so far.👊
Ferenc
Ferencweek 2
Nice baby! @TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Ferenc, ty dude. She’s coming along nicely for sure👍👊
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 1
inside the ride! another journey of life that will no doubt be fun to watch! 😊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, lol! Cheers dude. I’m not big on “organic” growing but it’s certainly worth a true test run to check differences👍. Well see!👊
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 14
frosting up nicelely b- dubya. lovely looking lady
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 6
proppa job hombre 👌
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 19
i really value the time and effort you put into your journals dubs. Hugely informative and educational in many respects. I'll be interested to see how my predominantly bio-tabs regime compares in terms of growth and yield - a lesson learnt from last grow has led to getting the tabs in the soil immediately as there is a little time delay in them breaking down so they went in when the seed was sown. No mention of Orgatrex in the nute review - might this have made a difference? Regardless, as per, I'm loving your work - budiful hombre.
Slurpy_Terpy
Slurpy_Terpy
@TheBudWhisperer, Hey M8! It seems like you forgot to use either the pk liquid boost or the pk compost tea of biotabs! Thats what you need to bring out all those organic growing benefits for the flavor/taste and extra effect complexity! I did a 'full organic' grow a few years ago but I was very ignorant and only mixed some basic nutrient powders with my soil and didn't add compost tea or anything the flowers ended up having near to no taste. --> Now I just started a biotabs grow and I can't wait till they are week 2-3 of flower and I can finally brew the organic pk compost tea for them :D I come from 100+ grows in different systems, most of them in hydro in dwc. I get pretty good results with dwc but there are 2 reasons I am trying biotabs: 1 - I want the plant to decide how much nutrients it eats, with the idea of getting a smoother smoke (in hydro I feel like its a trade off between a 20+ day flush or feeding for longer for thicker buds, less than 7 days flush doesn't change a thing for me vs no flush, I really need more than 20 days to notice a big difference...) 2 - I want more terpenes!!! This is what the main catch is for me (and most people I think, its either you want to 'just add water' benefit, or you want max quality and choose for full organics to get more taste). In hydro I would need to add fermented/compost teas and other bacteria to get a more 'full' taste with more terpenes, but then I struggle if the tank goes above 22.5c it starts to smell.... Good luck on your next grows! 2 -
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, agreed and same here. I find that most organic co.s will own the fact they don’t derive the same yield results but no one ever makes mention Of the other fact that regardless of system - a plant will chemically change the various nutrients it consumes in order to utilize them for growth. This chemical change happens regardless of whether the nutes are natural or synthetic so; in the end, on a strictly biological level - does it really matter if the nutrient starts out as organic or synthetic? 🤔. That question’s been roasting my brain stem for 6 months now. Same with phenotypes - how do we know this is the Bruce banner #3 pheno if the seed hasn’t yet even sprouted? 🤔🤔🤔. Sigh... lol
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovert
@TheBudWhisperer, ahh - the good old sales pitch...buy this and you will grow beanstalks....and organic ones at that!!! Organic is of secondary importance to me.....well presently anyhow. It's the claimed simplicity that pulled me in although as you've quite rightly pointed out, if the tabs are water only then why all the additional products? Emperor's new clothes perhaps?!?! I'll see how the ladies get on with the bio tabs manual being followed pretty much to a tee and fo sho gromo - any problems I'll be shouting you loudly!
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mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 15
loving the bird's eye views bro. what's your take on the biotabs regime? [gonna run again?]
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, give yourself more credit than that homie😉. Grow games a vast and expansive universe of tons ‘o cool options👍. IMO - whatever grows the biggest, fattest, dankest nugs☝️Lol
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovert
@TheBudWhisperer, thanks for the detailed response bro. used the biotabs for the first time this year though not as a stand alone. fulvic acid and calmag were on hand. next grow i'll be using a few more of their products and I'll be accounting for the fact that the tabs take a little while to break down. [either get them in the soil a little earlier or provide a little feed until they take effect.] hopefully i can lock this regime down.......as i am a simpleton!!!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, actually very impressed with it as an “organic” nute system. This’ll be a 17 week + grow and the only thing she’s needed aside from tap water was a couple shots of calmag to get to the finish. So it is easy and does do what they say it does. But with indoor, I will not be utilizing it as a standalone nute system again - the yield results just aren’t there IMO. I had wayyyy better than expected results with a purple haze when the tabs were used as a supplement to my normal nute regimen. Might incorporate them that way in the future if I’m growing in coco. It’ll def. get the nod for next years outdoor. The “all organic” folks should love this system for sure. I’m partial to “synthetics” myself (which are actually “organic” too just don’t tell the purists that - I’ll save that soapbox lecture for another time😉).
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 19
Mmm strawberry diesel cross. I'm sold. Those trichrome photos turned out nice...especially #4 and #6. You just using the phone camera?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, and I don’t know about the strawberry but the diesel is VERY prevalent on the dry👍.... I freakn love diesel strains
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, funny u ask I had the same question the other day. It’s actually a wireless microscope to my phone (works for both iPhone and android I believe). Not expensive and has served me well for sure👍 - link here if ur interested - PFC Optics Wireless Digital... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07QCZ3J3C?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Mrtony
Mrtonyweek 17
looking gd bro
Mrtony
Mrtony
@TheBudWhisperer, I give mine a exter 4 weeks b4 i switch witch give my massive buds.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Mrtony, many thanks she’s. She ain’t the bulkiest but she’ll smoke for sure👌👍
BudXs
BudXsweek 19
congrats dude!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@BudXs, cheers homie - even mediocrity makes bank 😂😂😂.👊
Yucreepin
Yucreepinweek 19
Great diary! Think I’m gona have to try it myself, the effects sound too good!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Yucreepin, for sure dude. This ones got a special place in the stash. Real good smoke and extremely powerful👍
Bloombuster
Bloombusterweek 7
like you pics! 👍
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Bloombuster, well thank u very much for that! As well as the like bomb!! Lol👊👊👊
Shagrath
Shagrathweek 19
Hi dude! I just wanted to ask, do you know the main reason for the burning of the tips? I've been watching your grow and I have the same strain and I'm having the same symptoms on my girls. I would like to stop it from spreading 'cos that might affect my final yields.. I have been giving them less nitrogen and more PK and more bacteria but I have raised my Ec in overall so it might be nute/light burn or it could be some deficiency caused by too much something (Nutelock).
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Shagrath, hey dude - in my case, my best guess is light burn and could be ur problem based on the height of your lights from canopy - mine now sit at about 20” (6” higher than yours) and I haven’t seen the problem get worse. As far as your grow is concerned - I had trouble seeing any issues at all with Your leaf tips. To be safe I’d bump your light up now just in case. All that said, mine is an all organic soil grow so my issues may show a little differently than yours in a hydro application. As far as I can tell though, looks like your plants on point so your nute mix is likely just fine👍. If you’ve got other more detailed pics you want me to look at, reach out any time. Otherwise, ur plants lookn like a winner for sure bud👍. After a 9 week veg. She should turn out beastly😎.
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchweek 19
That plant looks amazing man, also great photos!!!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@ButtersStotch, thanks very much for that dude. The pics give ‘er too much credit though. Think we’re looking at a whole lotta popcorn bud and can only hope that the quality is top shelf cuz I doubt we’re drying to more than 1.5oz tops. Prob. Last time you see me grow in soil indoors. Thanks for check’n er out👊.
ROM101
ROM101week 19
Just put this down very excited after seeing what you've done with this strain 👌
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@ROM101, lol - thanks much dude. Indeed she’s gett’n the knife in short order 👍
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 11
gonna be a yielder judging by appearance bruv - lovely looking lady.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@mr_h_kovert, think so - she’s stretched pretty good for sure. As long as she’s not overly stressed by the defo and aphids we should be primed for a chunky one👍