Welcome to Week 10 and week 1 of flower w/ Do-Si-Dos.
The Good:
-Definitely been a tough week with DSD, but her recent growth and recovery has been very positive all round. After the slight stunting, early week, she is now visibly growing and gaining .5-1 inch per day with off-set internode points occurring every 1-2 days.
-Excess salts have been successfully removed and RO came back at more optimal numbers. To achieve this, I changed the schedule and performed a flush through. Further notes on actions performed will be found in "Notes of the Week". Long story short, though, it worked very well and we're back on track.
The Bad:
-I'm pretty preachy about documentation and I take very thorough notes....but I effed up and did not review my previous feedings correctly (Was looking at BC's schedule and didn't realize)๐ I had a clear Nitrogen toxicity issue starting up and she wasn't growing but couldn't figure out why...? When I reviewed my notes I realized I had been looking at the wrong schedule and that DSD hasn't gotten a flush through in 6 FEEDINGS! No wonder she was upset. Roughly 4 weeks of straight nutrient feeds can do that... I screwed up, but thank God I had my notes to fall back on, or I would just be guessing what happened.
-Bad, bad weather. This will be covered further below and the things I had to do in order to keep my temperature and RH in check. Long and short of it is, they are not happy and I really hope me and my Canadian fellows (and our plants!) get a break here. Going on to 13 days of -35 to -45 degrees Celsius. I'm not too sure there are many organisms or creatures in this world that can handle these temperatures.... and it's just not good for anybody or anything.
The Meh:
-As mentioned, I hit a slight Nitrogen toxicity with her, but that has been rectified. Leaves are back to normal green hue and she is growing again (After 4-5 days of visible stunting going on)
-Weather is brutal, but I'm learning new techniques to combat winter. Doing this with very cheap or free solutions instead of buying a solution. Silver lining to this whole debacle are these lessons๐
Weather Conditions and simple remedies:
As stated, the weather is bad; very bad. The cold isn't that bad to mitigate and it was relatively easily to do with a small ceramic heater or using my lights as my primary heat source. The issue lies with the relative humidity. The world is pure static and my home is seeing about 20% RH (25%) if I'm lucky. I noticed all plant leaf edges burning, top to bottom and didn't know low humidity could cause faster eating, or that our leaves will siphon whatever they can from the soil when in this state. So, even though I didn't have a Nitrogen issue, all plants burned slightly as they were taking too much from the soil, too quickly. After this research I knew that RH had to be adjusted...or else.
Symptoms of low RH:
-Fast eating, fast drying.
-Leaves lose majority of moisture and they become very papery to the touch.
-Plants start taking up too much Nitrogen (or anything it can) from the soil which resulted in a top to bottom leaf tip burn (If left alone, it would persist)
Remedies (Cheap and/or free):
-I don't like to have standing water in my tent (especially after my gnat issue) but I had to add a pan of water, placed on top of my 32 watt heat mat. This gave me about 7-10% additional RH but wasn't enough.
-Hung large tea towel close to, but not touching the light. Clip on fan is cascading air over this tea towel and I can achieve 40-45% total with these two methods
-There is always the tea towel, bowl of water and hanger method too, that I may implement if RH continues to fluctuate so wildly.
Notes of the week:
-Flushed through 2.5 gallons of water with 3/4 to full dose P/Cal/Mag to rinse out the old without starving her of phosphorous. This went very well and I'm pleased to see her come back to full health
-Not many early week photos as I was focused on fixing the Nitrogen tox and working out the humidity problem. All picture's, except one, are Day 67
-Current dimensions of DSD sitting at 19.5 inches in height (50cm) and 24x26" in diameter (60-65cm)
-ALL training wires have been removed and only bracing wires remain (Held with clips off 2 foot and 3 foot bamboo sticks)
-Bracing and forming is going well and I have pulled her in slightly (along with the others) for that better form, but more for functionality. Don't want the plants getting hung up on one another or splaying into each other from the flower weight she will be stacking on.
-Blurple LED is ready to go but still not in use. I am going to throw it under the same Titan timer program and it will run with the SF-2000 at the end of this week for the remainder of grow (I had it out of commission again as the symptoms of cupping and praying were occurring. I now know this was less of a light stress issue and more of an out of whack RH issue, so she will be going back on now).
I think that's it and thank you for reading this weeks addition of DSD! Any comments or advice is welcome below or in PM. A huge thanks to all of you and happy grows my grow freindsโ๐
Need advice as soon as possible. Please see last few pictures of DoSiDos week 3. Am I looking at mottling here? Soil ph maladjusted? Please help if you've seen this before, and what steps do it take moving forward (or am I paranoid, IDK). Thank you!
most growers like the flowering, i like the seedlings and vegetation time the best. as you say they are moving so fast and you can tain her in various shapes
@Ga4rd2en0er, You and I and others seem to agree๐. Some stunning LST and form in the grows I see on here. I like when it goes beyond product, alone. The plant is beautiful and it's fun to help bring that out. ๐๐
@JinksyGrows, I guess I'm a design nerd, I love designing new systems to grow in and when a design fails or is performing poorly, I love the challenges of fine tuning or redesign. 2nd favorite is flowering time watching the ladies mature and develop their wonderful aroma. My least favorite is harvest day. My hands cramp easily from trimming ๐, the disinfecting and clean up.
@OutForReal, Haha, to each their own. I do love the colors and form come end game๐. But the time I get to spend with them on veg is almost meditative for me and it's a super peaceful time.
Thanks for dropping by Spinner and for all the love on the grows! Greatly appreciated.
Cheers my friend! Happy grows
@Mrs_Larimar, It is a sad feeling. Spent so much time with her it's hard not to become attached. But she did great and she will live on with the fruits she's givenโบ๏ธ.
@OutForReal, So, long story short I picked DSD for its name, lol! How can I pass by a strain called do-si-dos, what a cool name! So, I came on here and found 2 DSD grows using the same genetics from seed bank (i49). I didn't trust the breeders projected 29% and asked them to verify if they tested (an indie Dom that high, can it be?). Anyways, it be, hahaha. One user pulled a beauty harvest at 31%!!! Holy crap!... So I bought a set.
Until now, I had no idea this was becoming a popular strain, haha. I just liked the name and the terpene profile matches my preferences.But cool! I guess this will be my take on the strain and see how it goes.
I'll edit in the link if the DSD grow I mentioned. Using his flowering period as reference for this grow (same seed bank after all)
Thanks spinner! Hope this DSD is comparible to others trying her out!
Cheers
Edit: @DD_420 has a completed DSD and a brand new DSD at end week 5. Check it out! Beautiful plant.
@Mrs_Larimar, Yeah the Do is dos is trying to be the 2019/2020 fancy strain selection, every breeder tey to have their own version of it ... and I don't even know why it has been so famous ๐ค must be a killer strain
@Mrs_Larimar, We are and here we go! Very excited, even more then my first go. With all the changes you helped me with, I'm pumped to see the results. But! can't get cocky, still only half way๐๐
Cheers my friend and thank you for touching on my diaries ๐๐
Jinks said;
The 'Meh':
-Fungal gnat problem exists, still, but is completely under control for now.
I say:
those fungus gnats are a pain in the ass. And they come back in " waves" I have them in nearly every grow, especially using airpots ( they can crawl in th holes) iam continously " fighting " them in every stage.
But its a good sign for living soil with agood microbacterial life... ( this is what i tell to myself not to freak out )
@Mrs_Larimar, Glad I'm not the only one! And I'm with you on this. I was worried at first but now I just understand its apart of this specific grow. Their under control and I'm not going to panick over it. Girls are all very happy and I'm not letting the pests establish themselves.
Thank you for sharing this. That I'm not the only one seeing them. I thought it was a newbie mistake but it seems they are relatively normal to have, AS LONG as they don't get out of hand
Just saw pic of your current set up, do you have a Co2 generator? If not you can make one outta a couple plastic bottles and some cheap aquarium pump tubing....
@CRiSPrGrow, just posted a picture of the DIY Co2 generator in my new diary Do Si Dos round 2, should find it in week 4โs pictures for anyone that wants the visual.
funny I also wanted to extend drying time to 7-10 days and ended up in 5 ... No fans, just low extraction, 18*C, 50% RH ... it would be nice to compare longer drying times. We will get there! keep up that energy into your next grow ๐
@JinksyGrows, I'm in the same boat... always used 3% H2O2 and now on my last bottle and don't like my chances of getting another :) By the way, I'm thinking of doing a vertical ScrOG experiment in my next crop. I'm sure we'll stay in touch and up to date.
@HazeyBobby, I have been using 3% H202, but with recent developments (this whole pandemic thing) I'm a little hesitant about using it for the tent and will probably be going with bleach instead...unfortunately. I'm positive there are other methods to sanitize, but these are the only two chemical products I have at hand, ATM. Afterwards I do a sanitation and clean off all chemical residue too. Just in case! I hate the lingering smells they leave and I'm positive the plants do pick some of that up through the moisture in the air.
@JinksyGrows, what do you use to sterilise the tent? I'm using 20L airpots and one has an infestation of springtales - I will need to do something about that :)
@DD_420, No worries man. I have a pretty good idea what the Veg of the plant should look like, but your flowering pictures are more what I'm after (which are all there). If you're interested and want to send me some photos of Veg without making a new diary, my email is posted in personal info. Again, you dont have to! Haha. But if you want, by all means, I'd love to see you Veg photos and LST.
P.S. Yah! I germinated Nov 10th and they popped nov 12th. Our schedules seem to be lined right up.
@JinksyGrows, apologize for the missing weeks to start my first do si dos. She was originally used to cut babies from for a couple co workers outdoor this year while I low stress trained her to form a thicker canopy once she flowered. Iโd show you a picture of the 2nd gen mother and her 2 current 3rd gen babies but I canโt figure out how to show you other than starting a new journal. The two 3rd generation Babies I have currently were transplanted from pucks to pots on Remembrance Day making them within days of yours I believe
@DD_420, Yo! My Do-Si-Dos bro!! I followed through and here she is, above ground! Thanks for the kind words brother. If I can get the girl to look half as good as yours, we're in business. Coincidentally, I was running through the journal several days ago๐ making sure I'm on par with your growth rate. Theres no week 1 though 7 but I still feel like I'm behind. Will kick it up a notch.
@Mrs_Larimar, Thank you my friend, very much. Grow number one is just getting further and further away and these new results are night and day. I'm very happy and content with these kids and their potential ๐. It's about quality, always, but a larger yeild then my first wouldn't make me mad๐
Sweeeeeeet Flower Time!!!!!! Just wait till you see how many trichomes DSD is going to pack on! I have my 2 dsd next to some Hindu Kush right now and they look pretty much the same for triโs. However the Hindu Kush are too be coming down 2 weeks befor the dsd.
Get ready for the white out thatโs coming your way, hehe
@DD_420, oh buddy, I can't wait to see the DSD blow up and be snowcap white. She's the smallest plant out of the four, but I don't think she will disappointe. And if the Hindu Kush is coming down two weeks prior and they look the same, you're probably in for even more frosty goodness with DSD๐๐๐.
Bring on the white out๐๐. Cheers brother
@Mrs_Larimar, I. Absolutely. Love. It. Like night and day. Best part is being able to see the plants clealry. The blurple served me well, but I'm happy to have upgraded to this.
Girls look good, youve done alot for them.I see only good actions taken in your diary. and afew spots on aleaf...... she is going to grow it out.......but if those marks spread we got to talk again
@HazeyBobby, As long as we walk in knowing what we need/want, AN is a great company. I have been upsold on a couple supplements that I really didn't need, though. Not AN's fault, though. Looks like I'll be going for one of three lines. Future harvest, AN or Emerald Harvest. Give me two weeks and I might actually have made up my mind...lol! I'm fickle.
@JinksyGrows, agree - that list of products that goes on turned me off initially. And I do see some diaries here that include so many additives from AN - not my kind of approach to growing :)
@HazeyBobby, Great info. Wierd they don't taper down the nitrogen for late flower... Definitely see that causing some issues. And I actually have looked into advanced nutrients quite a bit. It's very solid product. Not a huge fan that they have 51! products, but if I pick the right supplements, advanced nutrients is definitely at the top of the short list. Never heard anything bad about it or them... Looks good๐