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Tangerine Dream Auto Real Gorilla seeds
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weeks 12
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weeks 12
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weeks 12
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weeks 8, 10, 12, 15, 19
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AsNoriu AsNoriu
5 years ago
Day 78. 4 girls started to fade away, for them its last feed and i hope by january 9 they will be choped. I see some cloudy trich, got small bud for a test and better view under microscope, still early, hope two weeks for them and 3 for other except Strabery Cough which is still in veg and late FastDiesel which will flower till mid-late february .. StrawberyCough will have heavy defoliation on friday. Merry Christmas ! Day 80. Strawbery cough had a hard life, she was the biggest plant, but didnt fit into my edited plans, so i gave her away.. she had low temps, no light for 6 weeks, i took her back totaly f**ked. Now she has new home, will defoliate and Lst her on saturday, thought i will have to wait couple days for her to recover from transplanting but she loves life ! Other girls are fine, not so fat as i would want it 4sure ... One girl will fall on new years eve and time will be changed to 12/12 for strawbery cough to finish in februrary... Just havent made my mind, have super sugary Fatty or Early Tangie, those two plants are most matured and i need one space for Strawbery ... Day 81. All girls are geting second round of water after heavy feed. Trich still clear or partly cloudy, thinking to make one more feed for all. Decided to leave all girls to mature, even under weaker light because of Strawbery Cough, which got heavy training, now couple days to recover and she goes to 12/12. Day 82. Couldnt hold it, some of them smells so nice, that my patience was weakend ;))) Bud is dense and really sticky, now i know, they need minimum two weeks. Low light hours, leds, couple mistakes made them to mature really slowly compaired to my expectations. Think some of them will need maybe 3 weeks+ to mature ... Rethought my feed plan, no more nutes for all girls , just Late FastDiesel and StrawberyCough will be on nutes schedule. For all other girls its ph water 2x and light molasses mix to finish round, will repeat it till chop day . Hope they will start to fade away quicker. Plus when i was transplanting Strawbery noticed nutes salts inbetween air stones, quess they have a lot in pots, maybe taste will be cleaner even if i loose part of weight. Never bumped them so much, my cheap ppm meters shows 780-950 readings and i put almost recomended dose, usually i go with 1/4 of recomended dose of nutes. Strawbery loves new 50 L pot and recovers from haircut, couple more days and she goes into flower mode. Night temps droped to 19 from 22. Day 83. Got Christmas presents from RQS, now will have to start new crop in midle of February if i want to finish it before real summer heat will kick in. Girls dont grow indoors at mines, too hot. So plan is to finish Late FastDiesel in main tent( Strawbery Cough forcing me to buy new small tent for it to finish and save some time for me), hope it will be around midle of February and to start new my dream run by then ;) Will try to do diary with all my mistakes from previos grows explained and hopfuly prevented ;)))) I will see how much time it takes, but next will be 100% of action documented and explained. One more time, Thank You #RoyalQueenSeeds ! Day 84. Just wait now, think all way is clear and i just need to finish my trip ;) Happy New Year !
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AsNoriu
AsNoriustarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi ! 3 photo is semi-auto ;)) After going from 24 to 18/6 two of them started to flower earlier than autos,on week 5 i went 17/7, week 6 16/8, last two photos shows, that last one is flowering now. My question will semi auto Fast Diesel start to reveg if i bump lights back 18/6
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
The best way to know is to take a clone. If you plant is a photoperiodic the clone will go vack into veg , if not the clone will continue to flower and you'll know. Take 2 or 3 clones to be sure . The slow decreasing of the light amount is clearly showing that they are reacting to the light.
AsNoriu
AsNoriustarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi ! Has anybody been releasing Lst branches in late flowering. I noticed that half of my branches dont need that wiring on them, but they have marks, maybe they would circulate better without ?
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5 years ago
Most people release unnecessary ties before our after the flower stretch. There's no need to keep them on forever
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuweek 8
@Grey_Wolf its my first time aswell, got them as free beans ... Still dont know, maybe will be a lot better do veg in may at home with 20+ and pop out to my northen climat outdoors. For indoors i dont see point aswell, plant need rest and 3 hours not enough for some proceses to start up even, so its a bit strange one.... Pop up in 7 weeks or so for final result.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 9
Looking good^^...
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 8
https://www.realgorillaseeds.com/product/fast-diesel/... this is what i found... to me it sounds like aphotoperiod with ashorter flower..... but iam still unsure.. and i found that https://www.rollitup.org/t/semi-auto-flowering.305728/ But how i understood it is like.... they need 20 + hours to stay in vegetation.. and less hour make them flowering.... and you lowered the hours tomake her bloom....and i think the risk of reveg is quite high if you go back to 18/6............I kow the optimal hours for your automatics are 18 hours of light... but they develop under 16 or less too..... it think i would go a golden middleway and let them under 16.. or may be 17 hours of light such amixed grow is always a new experience... tell us how it worked.. or if it worked
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, Thats the one. We are in same boat. Just i look fungus resistant+. Botrot takes half of the harvest each summer. This year fattest colas rotten after first thunderstorm and they where on week 4 of flower, never saw so early, but plants where really huge ... This is one of the strains to check out ... I will see the taste of it ....
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@AsNoriu,yes iam always looking for strains that can finish outdoors in northern hemispehere,,, thats true... i just have to notice it^^otherwise i forget... that was the fast diesel from real gorilla seeds=?
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, the Queen of Auto's is helping me ;)) When i was preparing for that grow i was so stoned, that i mistakenly learned about EARLY SKUNK from Sensi seed, which i have as a present, but planted Real Gorillas Fast Diesel instead... Situation when you have too many free seeds and smokers destiny ... Anyway, i didnt realize it till late, they started to pre on 3rd week after switch from 24 to 18/6, and one of them was still waiting a bit, i droped gradually till 16, i think she is on the way now.. So yeah, i think aswell better not to switch up, but thought if somebody growed already or bumbed into same river as me ... Thank you for your time, maybe you will have something new to check out for your next summer grows. Plants look strong, branches thicker than Tangies. So lets see ..
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 15
Happy Harvesting. The Tangie looks wonderful from bottom to top a nice PLant. even on the bottom flowers are done... welldone
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, thank You ! I was surprised myself with quantity and quality, still FastDiesel is a lot nicier weed for me than Tangies. In Uk summer FastDiesel i quess is perfect , have in mind.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 11
I released branches in late flower, I had different effects. Most branches stay down . Some look to get in the place they have been before bending
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, thats why i ask, branches became really woody and on some of them wire is totaly loose, on others its still have tension and wires change structure of branch, so i guess plants would feel better without those chains ...
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 12
the strawberry cough on the picture had no light for 6 weeks , ? she looks very good for that.. or did i understand it wrong=?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@AsNoriu, Ok i got it now...... its always hard to leave " the babies" because no one nurses them so good. like the owner would do.......
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, i saw that diary, i am still going to such magic.. My point was that later, she wont be so beutifull and because of no feed or because people dont pay so much atention to plants like you would... Mine would be better ;)))))))))))) But i missed my family and i hope 50 liters of soil is enough for two weeks of no food, ill feed her on my last day.
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Mrs_Larimar, no, her neighbour will fall , for strawb its only 15 day of flower, just i give her into new guys mercy, and its his first time helping me on holidays, my hart says he will mess up a bit ;)
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 8
hey there AsNoriu, hope i answered your question, anything else you need just let me know 👊
OutForReal
OutForReal
@AsNoriu, No worries, make you own idea and choose the other guy answer , he need it to score for a contest
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@AsNoriu, show me how it's done growmie , i'm taking notes 👊
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@CRiSPrGrow and YES and NO ;) One from three girls had lower cut off time, two other started to flower at 18 hours, so i liked @OutForReal answer more, he gives chance to be certain and you can basicly have motherplant of autos aka semi-autos and for SOG it would be massive turn around... But i dont have space for motherplant, plants are too small to take cutings and not loose a bit of harvest. Have only one grow space, so cant experiment with them. I dont do it for scale or sale, so you both gave me wider angle on that strain or type as semi-auto but @CRiSPrGrow didnt guarantee right numbers, @OutForReal offered solution for bigger scale grower than me. But thank both of YOU. cant make my mind whom to choose as an answer for another not to count me as an idiot ;))
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 8
Keep the faith - defoliation is good for them. Wite less leaves, they need a bit less water right after defoliation. Things will return to normal. My sin is that I defoliate late.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@AsNoriu, I hear you. If you can pull that much buds in 16 weeks, auto is total waste of time. Not all auto's are created equal. Diesel's have their own pecuriarity. But yes, unless you are after specific taste that takes six to nine months to complete in photo, then you are much better with photo.
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Med_in_Tropic, if it would be photoperiod, they would be striped on day 15 or so of flower. They would be toped and bush out, but my all plan went to bits, with unknown strains and slow grow rate and early flowering.... Thats why its my only atemt with autos. Check my other diary, week 3 of flower. I like naked girls aswell ;)))))))))))
Stoner_INDICA
Stoner_INDICAweek 22
Great job! Keep it up!
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Stoner_INDICA, thanks, just came with though to change diary name maybe and saw your comment ;))) I did like 10 diaries of autos now, stupid name for diary now ... ;))) But autos went a lot better, trimmed my first Seedsman Alaskan Diesel Auto , in soil, organics, less 100W/plant and it was still 181 g ;))
OutForReal
OutForRealweek 22
Hey bro , I was taking a look at your diaries and I’ve seen that you have bawd luck with autos that are not autos. Except for that little issue everything looks super fine 🍭
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@OutForReal, firstly , thank You for support. with autos and maths and love of control forced me to grow them only in summers outdoor , i tried them start inside and finish outdoor and vice versa, tried purely indoors with this diary, they never worked well. i pay my electrics and even fastest 2 month runs will bring me like 50g/plant, so in 4 month normal photo run i can have 2 harvest but 18 vs 12 end up in good bill, plus i was blessed in childhood , one my grandparents had garden to show off with loads off plants, others lived in countryside , so i read plants well for 40years+ and like to decide when girl is ready, not her telling me just to follow :) my weed journey related to neurodermatitus, i am allergic to everything, but weed calms me down, then i tried couple real homegrowns, after this already 3 years i dont buy and the cleaner i grow, less laziness is wining against me, for me that the only minus, but i think i cracked it :)))
Buddha2
Buddha2week 17
Fantastic! Congratulations! 👍
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Buddha2, TY very much, FastDiesel really nice strain to run, cant get my hands on report, maybe while triming StrawberryCough ... i hate triming and will avoid it for any other job ;))
Ferenc
Ferencweek 6
Great job bro! @AsNoriu
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Ferenc, check week 7 ;))) Still my last ever atempt with auto strains ...
MrRaid
MrRaidweek 10
Frosty buds 💪🥂🔥
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 2
Do you have the package of the seeds. or the exact termination from them icluding breeder=?...... i know photoperiods and autoflower..... as 2 categories Some photoperiods a re " fast " " "fast flowerin" or " express" . that means they are still photoperiods and react to light like these..... But i never heard about semi-automatics......... so tell me pls... greetings
Masshysteria
Masshysteriaweek 13
Wanted to return the favor with a comment your way with a hopefully not too off the wall question. I have thoroughly enjoyed learning the horticultural and botanical sciences behind growing cannabis, but I wonder if other growers learn those things for the sake of growing better smoke or for the intellectual curiosity of it all. Your take? Happy harvest soon-ish!
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Masshysteria, good luck in your journey !
Masshysteria
Masshysteria
@AsNoriu, as a high school English teacher in the US, that analogy makes perfect sense. One desire adds to the other and soon intellectual curiosity and yield quality become inseperable. I'll stay in touch, I'll have one more grow for sure before I have to move and who knows after then.
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@Masshysteria, i guess we all have our own points and rarely its pure indica or sativa , if you get my point ;)) I was watching most of the quality videos on youtube like 4-5 years ago, was following like 50 chanells, now half of them are closed, half dont bring any info or do it that way that i dont like it. Was reading doc level studies (was looking more for pictures, schemes or known words more ;))) ) about plants and food. Now i have basics, i see and read plants, only thing to achieve for me is 150 from a plant with min 6 of them growing. For that i need to tune up my equipment still, think i got well this time with biobizz and next will be only better and i still search for my fav strain. Doubt that i will go away from soil, think maybe later will step into dry amendments and home made tea area, but still i have changed something every run, never had like check point created. Time to set down and grind what can i do best with my style and equipment. #RQS provided my with beans, next run should be check point and exam for me ;)
EZgrower
EZgrowerweek 7
it's very interesting to watch your diary. I wish you a huge harvest of buds. What do you prefer to use a Bong or a joint. 4-20 Bro. subscribed and watching your grow.👍
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@EZgrower, they will be crap, believe me ;))) My lungs too old for bongs, so 15 spliffs or so ;))))))) The only interesting in this grow is new type of lst ( which i will try to nail in next grow with toping ) and what will happen with upside down plant, how bad will she be ... ??? ;))))))
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 8
And I also constantly search for new ways to screw up my plants. Some time, these things works and I get more yield and better buds quality.