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JinksyGrows JinksyGrows
5 years ago
Howdy all and welcome to another week with Dutchy. It was a good week and I'll make this 'shorter' then usual. The Deets: The Good: -Really good week with Dutchy. Fast growing girl, holy crap. She's pushing nodes and new sets, left-right and center -Training went pretty well with her and so did the first feed with run-off. She dipped out but came back pretty damn well. No shock or delay, new mains are already pushing away. -Leaf health has been getting somewhat better and the texture/color is coming back well. I feel her full recovery is close. The Bad: -I covered this in Space Cookies Week 4, so I won't rant in here. Essentially trying to find a reason why my plants dip out 3 hours before bed. Got into nastic movements and some articles that taught me a lot....but not what I needed to know. Still no answer, only theories. I will link the short article/blog blog below running through these theories. Spoiler alert: No one knows, lol. They're all theories going back as far as Darwin's observation of leaf nyctinasty and nastic movements this mechanism causes. It's a short read if you're interested. If you have more information/articles or sources that can help me with this learning, please don't hesitate to through it in below. Thanks! -Running a pretty low pH on my first run-off and really high ppm's. Don't care about the ppm's, it's new soil and has tonnes of excess from my initial feeds. The pH... I need to up that and this does explain some of the symptoms I'm seeing on my foliage. Doesn't explain the dip out, but I'm happy to know it's low and I can move forward to raise it๐Ÿ‘ The 'Meh': -Just foliar symptoms and the dip out. I accept the dip out but will raise the pH. Will run 6.5 w/ 30-40% run-off (w/ nutrients) to reduce and wash out those ppm's, balance and raise the pH (a bit more anyway). Notes of the Week: -Released some training ties on DD and decided to train her a bit different. Going straight up and will control with LST and more topping if need be. -Did the first feed with run-off with GDPB and PSK. I didn't feel like I ran enough through them to drop my ppm's and raise my pH enough. I adjusted the feed and watering volume with SC and DD and their numbers came back a little better then their counterparts. I will have to do at least two more flush through's w/ nutes, in order to drop one and raise the other, while replacing the nutes I'm washing out. I feel things may be back to normal in a week or two(?). No expectations on the time frame, but I will get them back to happier reads. -Since nothing I did changed the 7pm droop, I've put back everything the way I know and the way I know works. Plants are much happier and I won't be screwing with their environment (much) anymore. Want them to acclimate after such a long screw around. I have a feeling they don't know what the hell is going on and why things keep changing, hahaha. This'll stop now. -Instead of upping my 'Grow' formula, I added in some Rapid Start from GHE and that'll be my soluble potash boost I'm looking for. Going to abide by the schedule a bit more and stop screwing around with that too. Again, I want to go back to what I know, for a little bit, just to get them back in good form BEFORE I start to play "scientist". -All plants have now been topped b/t the 5th and 6th. All, expect PSK took it really well. PSK dipped out and was giving some serious attitude afterwards and took twice as long for her to come back from the stress I inflicted. -LST is picking up as laterals are punching through all-round. I'm starting to see what I can do with them and even what I feel they should look like by end game. By next weeks update, I'm pretty certain all the girls are going to be twice as big and look like little bubbles (that's the goal, anyway). -Random note about my soil: Water retention of 3 gallons is 2.75L before run-off. Thought it was a decent number and the loamy mix I threw together seems to be holding and dispersing water very well. Thanks for reading folks. Wasn't as long as my usual tangents, lol. I hope you have a great week and take care. Much love and enjoy your projects! Cheers, all.๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘
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Grow Questions
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsstarted grow question 4 years ago
Starting to select next grow genetics. I know half of what I want but have a short list of the others. Main one I'm looking at is an OG gelato. Have you grown it? What's it like and what bank would you suggest. International is fine with me. Thanks in advance.
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Fruitgroweranswered grow question 4 years ago
I did grow gelat. Og. From seedsman and it was an easy, fun plant to grow. Lovely unique and unusual kushy flavour but not the strongest weed at all. Bubba kush is one I've heard nice things about too. The runtz from zamnesia is getting me excited, going to flip to flower soon! ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ‘
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 5
Care per diem my friend.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Med_in_Tropic, No doubt. I'm good! Over it and back to just enjoying my project ๐Ÿ™‚. Thanks for the wisdom Med ๐Ÿ™. I'll keep reminding myself of this. Cheers๐Ÿ‘
Visions
Visionsweek 4
I wonder what dominant you will receive. Mines super fox taily and sativa speaking everywhere. Seen a lot of dragons with more indica traits than sativa traits. Looking forward to see what yours does ๐Ÿ˜Š
Visions
Visions
@JinksyGrows, wait until flower. In really excited to see how yours buds out. Many other dutch dragons I've seen dont have crazy sugar leaves compacted all over the buds. It's going to be a trimmers nightmare hahaha.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Visions, Oop, missed these messages. Yah man, you're more then right. I uploaded today and she's exploding. Going to have to trigger at 18-20" or I'll screw myself over๐Ÿ˜ณ
Visions
Visions
@JinksyGrows, at least double in height. Branching gets nuts
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DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowsweek 18
Even though we update each other daily, still gotta drop some love on the diaries. Tis the crop season ๐ŸŒฑ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@DeepRootGrows, You're so kind๐Ÿ˜Š. Thanks brother! You know I appreciates ya, for all you do๐Ÿ™. Cheers to you buddy
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbyweek 12
ha ha ... just started looking at collages myself - all for it ๐Ÿ‘
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@HazeyBobby, Oh man, super handy and easy๐Ÿ˜€. I'll be doing more for sure.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 3
Guess that she doesnโ€™t store enough water in her leaves and stem. You can either the environment or train her to adapt. For young seedlings, I use small battery operated water pump with timer. On the other hand, what doesnโ€™t kill her will make her stronger ????
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
No need to thanks @JinksyGrows, ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€ I think we are like an echo chamber to each other ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Med_in_Tropic, You're correct, me thinks. I just gave a good feed and upped my P w/ an adequate amount of Cal/Mag. I feel the root system isn't defined enough to support the top side growth... So your idea is the way to go. Slowing down the heavy N/K and going back to work on the roots for a bit. Thanks so much man. I thought about what to do, a lot. But this seems like the right path to take. Cheers for the guidance๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Med_in_Tropic, I totally I agree. I think her root system is still beyind/damaged. I threw in bone meal and have been dosing some Cal/mag. I'm hoping it just catches up so it can properly support the top side growth. Requires more patience. Not my best suit, hahaha.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicweek 8
Sunday is convenient but GD always crashes on Sunday. You may want to save your work and upload on Monday.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@JinksyGrows, ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜‰
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Med_in_Tropic, Okay, learned my lesson. Sunday's are a no go. Hahaha. Didn't lose anything but everything was moving to a crawl. Monday's and Tuesdays it is.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@JinksyGrows, well, I am 13 hours ahead of you. So my Sunday morning is still Saturday on your side of the world.
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HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbyweek 15
Surprised about the change in nutes line already ... and Future Harvests is Dutch?? have you used them before?
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@HazeyBobby, I thought the same thing at first when I saw the Holland part! I have years and years to go too brother. Life long learning curve. I'm positive I'll find a nutrient line I like only for a new line to come out that I want to try๐Ÿ˜…. I hope there's no pressure ๐Ÿ˜€, haha. It'll be awhile
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobby
@JinksyGrows, cool - good to know. I just saw the formula called Holland ... and thought hmmm... when one day you settle on a line - I'll make the switch once I run out of my GHE ๐Ÿ‘ no pressure... I got years of growing at my pace to go :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@HazeyBobby, Yah, me too. I'm still trying to find a good fit and just want to try a couple more lines to see difference, it any. Oh! And Dutch treat is a potting soil. Future Harvest is out of Kelowna British Columbia ๐Ÿ‘.
FoTwenny
FoTwennyweek 18
What a beautiful cultivar! Expertly grown and located for and she returns the love 10 fold! Enjoy the beautiful fruits of your labor! Happy harvest!
FoTwenny
FoTwenny
@JinksyGrows, I just noticed my auto-correct fail ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@FoTwenny, Thank you! I can't wait till the one week cure so I can bust it up and get going๐Ÿ˜€
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbyweek 16
Some real wonderful colas in there ๐Ÿ‘Œ they could swell up more in another week or two ๐Ÿ‘
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobby
@JinksyGrows, yes good reference to NL - looks similar.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@HazeyBobby, I really hope so๐Ÿ˜€. Maybe three-ish weeks to go(?). I think she's going to look alot like northern lights#1. Big and fluffy kid, for sure.
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyweek 9
She looks very great bro ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘ the color is perfect ๐Ÿ‘Œ
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermany
@JinksyGrows,nothing to thank :-) and thank you ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ‘
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@MadeInGermany, Thanks my friend. Camera makes her look a little better then she is, but we're improving ๐Ÿ˜‰. Cheers. I'm really behind on my contacts updates. I'll drop by tonight and read up on your happenings ๐Ÿ‘
DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowsweek 8
What is the purpose of your Bamboo sticks? Is that just for branch support during the late stages?
DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrows
@JinksyGrows, thatโ€™s a great idea. That is one thing I hate about skrog is itโ€™s impossible to move the plant for sometime.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@DeepRootGrows, For mobility I use bamboo sticks instead of a scrogg. It's more work, but I'm able to move them around as I please๐Ÿ‘. I insert the bamboo when I do final pot up, into the new soil where there is no root system yet. I use it at first to train the plants outwards and inner laterals into open positions. When I flip, I remove most the training wires and then use the bamboo to brace them inwards over time. As the stretch continues, I can see what and where I need to make adjustments. During flower, none of the new wires are pulling, just bracing the laterals in place. Holds the flower weight very well and I can use them to create an even canopy and adjust as needed๐Ÿ‘. This is all to avoid scrogging, for mobility. Can be a pain in the ass too, though. Haha!๐Ÿ˜…
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyweek 2
Have a nice start ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป Nice strain
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermany
@JinksyGrows,Keep it up ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Œ Norhing to thank
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@MadeInGermany, Thanks so much man!๐Ÿ™‚ I am really looking forward to see what the dragon can do for me. I'm an indica guy, but Dutchy is my first trek into Sativa/Sativa Dom. I'm excited ๐Ÿ˜€. Cheers and thank you again! Happy trails this week my friend.
JP148
JP148week 18
๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ‘. All this grows plants are lovely. Very nice job
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@@JP148, Twas a good run, even with its problems. Zero complaints โœŠ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Buddha2
Buddha2week 18
Another great harvest! Congratulations!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Buddha2, Thank you!!!
WeedTheNorth
WeedTheNorthweek 18
Looks great my man ๐Ÿป๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‘ŠI'm smoking some cali dragon ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ keep em coming!!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@WeedTheNorth, Ohhhh Cali dragon sounds great...๐Ÿ˜ƒ. Thanks man, I shall keep pumping em out ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfweek 18
๐Ÿ‘Œ Great Work mate !!!!!! ๐Ÿ‘Œ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@Grey_Wolf, Word, thank you Grey๐Ÿ™
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAweek 18
Very nice
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@MaryJaneUSA, Thank you kindly๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ˜€
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchweek 18
Awesome form and fade man!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@ButtersStotch, Thanks Butter๐Ÿ˜‰. Very impressed with her phenos. Couldn't be happier with the way she turned/turned out๐Ÿ‘
ROM101
ROM101week 18
Nice finish mate enjoy๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@ROM101, Party Time!๐Ÿ˜€ Thanks ROM, I shall enjoy ASAP ๐Ÿ‘
NuggetPawn
NuggetPawnweek 17
Beautiful buds ๐Ÿ˜Š
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrows
@NuggetPawn, Word up! Thanks man!๐Ÿ˜€