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JinksyGrows JinksyGrows
5 years ago
Howdy all and welcome to another week with Dutchy. It was a good week and I'll make this 'shorter' then usual. The Deets: The Good: -Really good week with Dutchy. Fast growing girl, holy crap. She's pushing nodes and new sets, left-right and center -Training went pretty well with her and so did the first feed with run-off. She dipped out but came back pretty damn well. No shock or delay, new mains are already pushing away. -Leaf health has been getting somewhat better and the texture/color is coming back well. I feel her full recovery is close. The Bad: -I covered this in Space Cookies Week 4, so I won't rant in here. Essentially trying to find a reason why my plants dip out 3 hours before bed. Got into nastic movements and some articles that taught me a lot....but not what I needed to know. Still no answer, only theories. I will link the short article/blog blog below running through these theories. Spoiler alert: No one knows, lol. They're all theories going back as far as Darwin's observation of leaf nyctinasty and nastic movements this mechanism causes. It's a short read if you're interested. If you have more information/articles or sources that can help me with this learning, please don't hesitate to through it in below. Thanks! -Running a pretty low pH on my first run-off and really high ppm's. Don't care about the ppm's, it's new soil and has tonnes of excess from my initial feeds. The pH... I need to up that and this does explain some of the symptoms I'm seeing on my foliage. Doesn't explain the dip out, but I'm happy to know it's low and I can move forward to raise it👍 The 'Meh': -Just foliar symptoms and the dip out. I accept the dip out but will raise the pH. Will run 6.5 w/ 30-40% run-off (w/ nutrients) to reduce and wash out those ppm's, balance and raise the pH (a bit more anyway). Notes of the Week: -Released some training ties on DD and decided to train her a bit different. Going straight up and will control with LST and more topping if need be. -Did the first feed with run-off with GDPB and PSK. I didn't feel like I ran enough through them to drop my ppm's and raise my pH enough. I adjusted the feed and watering volume with SC and DD and their numbers came back a little better then their counterparts. I will have to do at least two more flush through's w/ nutes, in order to drop one and raise the other, while replacing the nutes I'm washing out. I feel things may be back to normal in a week or two(?). No expectations on the time frame, but I will get them back to happier reads. -Since nothing I did changed the 7pm droop, I've put back everything the way I know and the way I know works. Plants are much happier and I won't be screwing with their environment (much) anymore. Want them to acclimate after such a long screw around. I have a feeling they don't know what the hell is going on and why things keep changing, hahaha. This'll stop now. -Instead of upping my 'Grow' formula, I added in some Rapid Start from GHE and that'll be my soluble potash boost I'm looking for. Going to abide by the schedule a bit more and stop screwing around with that too. Again, I want to go back to what I know, for a little bit, just to get them back in good form BEFORE I start to play "scientist". -All plants have now been topped b/t the 5th and 6th. All, expect PSK took it really well. PSK dipped out and was giving some serious attitude afterwards and took twice as long for her to come back from the stress I inflicted. -LST is picking up as laterals are punching through all-round. I'm starting to see what I can do with them and even what I feel they should look like by end game. By next weeks update, I'm pretty certain all the girls are going to be twice as big and look like little bubbles (that's the goal, anyway). -Random note about my soil: Water retention of 3 gallons is 2.75L before run-off. Thought it was a decent number and the loamy mix I threw together seems to be holding and dispersing water very well. Thanks for reading folks. Wasn't as long as my usual tangents, lol. I hope you have a great week and take care. Much love and enjoy your projects! Cheers, all.😀👍
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JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsstarted grow question 5 years ago
Starting to select next grow genetics. I know half of what I want but have a short list of the others. Main one I'm looking at is an OG gelato. Have you grown it? What's it like and what bank would you suggest. International is fine with me. Thanks in advance.
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Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5 years ago
I did grow gelat. Og. From seedsman and it was an easy, fun plant to grow. Lovely unique and unusual kushy flavour but not the strongest weed at all. Bubba kush is one I've heard nice things about too. The runtz from zamnesia is getting me excited, going to flip to flower soon! 🌱👍
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 55 years ago
Care per diem my friend.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, No doubt. I'm good! Over it and back to just enjoying my project 🙂. Thanks for the wisdom Med 🙏. I'll keep reminding myself of this. Cheers👍
Visions
Visionscommentedweek 45 years ago
I wonder what dominant you will receive. Mines super fox taily and sativa speaking everywhere. Seen a lot of dragons with more indica traits than sativa traits. Looking forward to see what yours does 😊
Visions
Visionscommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, wait until flower. In really excited to see how yours buds out. Many other dutch dragons I've seen dont have crazy sugar leaves compacted all over the buds. It's going to be a trimmers nightmare hahaha.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Visions, Oop, missed these messages. Yah man, you're more then right. I uploaded today and she's exploding. Going to have to trigger at 18-20" or I'll screw myself over😳
Visions
Visionscommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, at least double in height. Branching gets nuts
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DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowscommentedweek 184 years ago
Even though we update each other daily, still gotta drop some love on the diaries. Tis the crop season 🌱
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@DeepRootGrows, You're so kind😊. Thanks brother! You know I appreciates ya, for all you do🙏. Cheers to you buddy
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommentedweek 125 years ago
ha ha ... just started looking at collages myself - all for it 👍
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, Oh man, super handy and easy😀. I'll be doing more for sure.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 35 years ago
Guess that she doesn’t store enough water in her leaves and stem. You can either the environment or train her to adapt. For young seedlings, I use small battery operated water pump with timer. On the other hand, what doesn’t kill her will make her stronger ????
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
No need to thanks @JinksyGrows, 😀😀😀😀 I think we are like an echo chamber to each other 😀😀😀😀😀
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, You're correct, me thinks. I just gave a good feed and upped my P w/ an adequate amount of Cal/Mag. I feel the root system isn't defined enough to support the top side growth... So your idea is the way to go. Slowing down the heavy N/K and going back to work on the roots for a bit. Thanks so much man. I thought about what to do, a lot. But this seems like the right path to take. Cheers for the guidance👍👍
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I totally I agree. I think her root system is still beyind/damaged. I threw in bone meal and have been dosing some Cal/mag. I'm hoping it just catches up so it can properly support the top side growth. Requires more patience. Not my best suit, hahaha.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 85 years ago
Sunday is convenient but GD always crashes on Sunday. You may want to save your work and upload on Monday.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, 😄😄😄😉
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, Okay, learned my lesson. Sunday's are a no go. Hahaha. Didn't lose anything but everything was moving to a crawl. Monday's and Tuesdays it is.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, well, I am 13 hours ahead of you. So my Sunday morning is still Saturday on your side of the world.
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HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommentedweek 155 years ago
Surprised about the change in nutes line already ... and Future Harvests is Dutch?? have you used them before?
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, I thought the same thing at first when I saw the Holland part! I have years and years to go too brother. Life long learning curve. I'm positive I'll find a nutrient line I like only for a new line to come out that I want to try😅. I hope there's no pressure 😀, haha. It'll be awhile
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, cool - good to know. I just saw the formula called Holland ... and thought hmmm... when one day you settle on a line - I'll make the switch once I run out of my GHE 👍 no pressure... I got years of growing at my pace to go :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, Yah, me too. I'm still trying to find a good fit and just want to try a couple more lines to see difference, it any. Oh! And Dutch treat is a potting soil. Future Harvest is out of Kelowna British Columbia 👍.
FoTwenny
FoTwennycommentedweek 184 years ago
What a beautiful cultivar! Expertly grown and located for and she returns the love 10 fold! Enjoy the beautiful fruits of your labor! Happy harvest!
FoTwenny
FoTwennycommented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, I just noticed my auto-correct fail 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@FoTwenny, Thank you! I can't wait till the one week cure so I can bust it up and get going😀
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommentedweek 165 years ago
Some real wonderful colas in there 👌 they could swell up more in another week or two 👍
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, yes good reference to NL - looks similar.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, I really hope so😀. Maybe three-ish weeks to go(?). I think she's going to look alot like northern lights#1. Big and fluffy kid, for sure.
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 95 years ago
She looks very great bro 😍👍 the color is perfect 👌
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows,nothing to thank :-) and thank you 😅👍
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@MadeInGermany, Thanks my friend. Camera makes her look a little better then she is, but we're improving 😉. Cheers. I'm really behind on my contacts updates. I'll drop by tonight and read up on your happenings 👍
DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowscommentedweek 85 years ago
What is the purpose of your Bamboo sticks? Is that just for branch support during the late stages?
DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowscommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, that’s a great idea. That is one thing I hate about skrog is it’s impossible to move the plant for sometime.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@DeepRootGrows, For mobility I use bamboo sticks instead of a scrogg. It's more work, but I'm able to move them around as I please👍. I insert the bamboo when I do final pot up, into the new soil where there is no root system yet. I use it at first to train the plants outwards and inner laterals into open positions. When I flip, I remove most the training wires and then use the bamboo to brace them inwards over time. As the stretch continues, I can see what and where I need to make adjustments. During flower, none of the new wires are pulling, just bracing the laterals in place. Holds the flower weight very well and I can use them to create an even canopy and adjust as needed👍. This is all to avoid scrogging, for mobility. Can be a pain in the ass too, though. Haha!😅
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 25 years ago
Have a nice start 👍🙏🏻 Nice strain
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows,Keep it up 😎👌 Norhing to thank
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@MadeInGermany, Thanks so much man!🙂 I am really looking forward to see what the dragon can do for me. I'm an indica guy, but Dutchy is my first trek into Sativa/Sativa Dom. I'm excited 😀. Cheers and thank you again! Happy trails this week my friend.
JP148
JP148commentedweek 184 years ago
🌱🍒👍. All this grows plants are lovely. Very nice job
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@@JP148, Twas a good run, even with its problems. Zero complaints ✊👌
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 184 years ago
Another great harvest! Congratulations!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Buddha2, Thank you!!!
WeedTheNorth
WeedTheNorthcommentedweek 184 years ago
Looks great my man 🍻🌱🍀🙌🙏👊I'm smoking some cali dragon 🌶️🌶️🌶️ keep em coming!!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@WeedTheNorth, Ohhhh Cali dragon sounds great...😃. Thanks man, I shall keep pumping em out 👌
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 184 years ago
👌 Great Work mate !!!!!! 👌
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Grey_Wolf, Word, thank you Grey🙏
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAcommentedweek 184 years ago
Very nice
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@MaryJaneUSA, Thank you kindly🙏😀
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchcommentedweek 184 years ago
Awesome form and fade man!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@ButtersStotch, Thanks Butter😉. Very impressed with her phenos. Couldn't be happier with the way she turned/turned out👍
ROM101
ROM101commentedweek 184 years ago
Nice finish mate enjoy🎉🎉🎉
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@ROM101, Party Time!😀 Thanks ROM, I shall enjoy ASAP 👍
NuggetPawn
NuggetPawncommentedweek 174 years ago
Beautiful buds 😊
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@NuggetPawn, Word up! Thanks man!😀