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weeks 8-18
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weeks 5
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JinksyGrows JinksyGrows
5 years ago
Hello! This is Week 5, Veg w/ Dutchy. The deets: The Good: -Explosive week of growth for DD, holy crap. Started to train out and she's taking up space quick. I was told she would do this, so... here we goπŸ‘ -She finally seems to have a great stem and lateral stem rigidity. She's a lot stronger then she was last week. -The flush/feed applied this week did work surprisingly well. Looking to adjust a bit further, but I feel far more comfortable with her reads then before. The Bad: -No bad in my mind. The 'Meh': -The feed/flush went well, but there is a ways to go. PH maladjustment still exists and I'm still assessing what she does and doesn't have right now. My next feed will be plain tap, as I usually run a feed-feed-water schedule. Time will tell if she picks up a deficiency, toxicity (of some kind) and adjusts, or if there are more symptoms on the horizon. -Big. She's going to be very big, me thinks. Already nervous about the stretch and have to watch this one. Notes of the Week: -The biggest thing I face with all four girls right now is adjusting my soil pH and/or it's excess/lack of nutrients. I feel the moves I made to bring back a fried root system has worked, but in doing so, I did neglect the top side growth. During training, I did notice very early symptoms of something, but it's not discernible enough (for me) just yet to make a game plan. After this feed with plain water, I can guarantee! something will pop up. -Once the temporary leeching is done, I will be following up with a standard flush with all plants to rectify the remaining imbalance. At this time I'm hoping this will be like a 'reset' and I can go back to my schedules in their simplest form, instead of making these convoluted, special feedings. Literally back to basics, again, and will move into late Veg feeding after this has been done. -Tent is blowing up now that I've started heavy training. Already running out of room and it's a treat to observe. Adjustments have to be made 1-2 daily, as laterals are growing quickly/out of their loops. Really good problem to have and it's keeping me busy. I'm projecting a full tent by the end of week 7 (?) with another week up upward growth (8th week) before flipping. All tentative and dependent on my schedule and plant health, but if everything continues growing the way it is, they will need a flip relatively soon. -Tent parameters are actually very good right now and I haven't had to touch anything for awhile. Day/night temps and RH is pretty constant and if I hold these numbers, I'm positive they will continue to take it all in and thrive. -The 7pm droop is getting better! So, if you read last weeks entries, I'm trying to figure out why my plants are drooping out every night @ 7pm, 3hrs before lights off. Found a lot of theories, but none of them really matched my parameters... After the swing adjustment to pH and ppm's, the drooping is postponing until 8-8:30 pm. I have NO idea if it's anything I did, or if the flush had anything to do with this. I'm still confused and would like a solid answer, but that's probably not going to happen. I'll take what I can get, though, and I'm really happy that they're carrying themselves much better at days end, then before. **Happy Little Side Note**Early in these diaries, I mentioned that there would be consequences to the changes and the experimentation I was doing. Some changes felt mandatory due to my early issues, but other's were just short sided, knee jerk reactions to situations. It's been pointed out to me recently, by some super lovely people (/s), that my plants aren't perfect. Ummm, no, no they're not. I love each one of them and do my very best, but have never expected perfection. I have tried to be very concise in my entries, admit all my mistakes and how I got out of them. The seeding soil fiasco of this grow is a perfect example of this. I messed up, and I messed up bad. None of this would have happened if my head was on straight. But...it did, I accepted it and I did my best to bring them back. I laid it all bare on the table, not knowing if they were even going to make it, in hopes that someone else may avoid the same fate I doomed my girls too. That was three weeks ago, the girls were at deaths door but they're back, growing in spades and are full of life. To suggest or ask for perfection, of my grows, is kinda absurd. I don't even ask that of myself... If anyone feels I owe them anything but perfection, you're in for a rude surprise. I'm going to screw up, and it's going to happen a lot. This is my third grow, please stop. I have and always will ask for advice and opinions on my page, but if it's straight criticism without constructive feedback, please do not bother. How you say something is just as important as what you have to say. This very basic principle of communication seems to be lost on some people's. On my side of things, I need to stop taking things so personal. Understand that not everyone is going to like you or what you do... it's just impossible to appease everyone and the more I try the harder it gets. If I argue my point or give a rebuttal, things just get worse and none of it is worth it. It's an unfortunate but manageable reality, I suppose. Thanks to all of you that are just there cheering each other on, giving one another solid advice (nicely) and carrying one another in new ventures. MVP's, all of you do-gooders. It's become very clear just how lucky I am to have this circle of like-minded people's. Your support and guidance means a tonne. Cheers and much love to you all✊
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Grow Questions
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsstarted grow question 5 years ago
Starting to select next grow genetics. I know half of what I want but have a short list of the others. Main one I'm looking at is an OG gelato. Have you grown it? What's it like and what bank would you suggest. International is fine with me. Thanks in advance.
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5 years ago
I did grow gelat. Og. From seedsman and it was an easy, fun plant to grow. Lovely unique and unusual kushy flavour but not the strongest weed at all. Bubba kush is one I've heard nice things about too. The runtz from zamnesia is getting me excited, going to flip to flower soon! πŸŒ±πŸ‘
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 55 years ago
Care per diem my friend.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, No doubt. I'm good! Over it and back to just enjoying my project πŸ™‚. Thanks for the wisdom Med πŸ™. I'll keep reminding myself of this. CheersπŸ‘
Visions
Visionscommentedweek 45 years ago
I wonder what dominant you will receive. Mines super fox taily and sativa speaking everywhere. Seen a lot of dragons with more indica traits than sativa traits. Looking forward to see what yours does 😊
Visions
Visionscommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, wait until flower. In really excited to see how yours buds out. Many other dutch dragons I've seen dont have crazy sugar leaves compacted all over the buds. It's going to be a trimmers nightmare hahaha.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Visions, Oop, missed these messages. Yah man, you're more then right. I uploaded today and she's exploding. Going to have to trigger at 18-20" or I'll screw myself over😳
Visions
Visionscommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, at least double in height. Branching gets nuts
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DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowscommentedweek 184 years ago
Even though we update each other daily, still gotta drop some love on the diaries. Tis the crop season 🌱
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@DeepRootGrows, You're so kind😊. Thanks brother! You know I appreciates ya, for all you doπŸ™. Cheers to you buddy
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommentedweek 124 years ago
ha ha ... just started looking at collages myself - all for it πŸ‘
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@HazeyBobby, Oh man, super handy and easyπŸ˜€. I'll be doing more for sure.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 35 years ago
Guess that she doesn’t store enough water in her leaves and stem. You can either the environment or train her to adapt. For young seedlings, I use small battery operated water pump with timer. On the other hand, what doesn’t kill her will make her stronger ????
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
No need to thanks @JinksyGrows, πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€ I think we are like an echo chamber to each other πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, You're correct, me thinks. I just gave a good feed and upped my P w/ an adequate amount of Cal/Mag. I feel the root system isn't defined enough to support the top side growth... So your idea is the way to go. Slowing down the heavy N/K and going back to work on the roots for a bit. Thanks so much man. I thought about what to do, a lot. But this seems like the right path to take. Cheers for the guidanceπŸ‘πŸ‘
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, I totally I agree. I think her root system is still beyind/damaged. I threw in bone meal and have been dosing some Cal/mag. I'm hoping it just catches up so it can properly support the top side growth. Requires more patience. Not my best suit, hahaha.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommentedweek 85 years ago
Sunday is convenient but GD always crashes on Sunday. You may want to save your work and upload on Monday.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜‰
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, Okay, learned my lesson. Sunday's are a no go. Hahaha. Didn't lose anything but everything was moving to a crawl. Monday's and Tuesdays it is.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, well, I am 13 hours ahead of you. So my Sunday morning is still Saturday on your side of the world.
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HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommentedweek 154 years ago
Surprised about the change in nutes line already ... and Future Harvests is Dutch?? have you used them before?
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@HazeyBobby, I thought the same thing at first when I saw the Holland part! I have years and years to go too brother. Life long learning curve. I'm positive I'll find a nutrient line I like only for a new line to come out that I want to tryπŸ˜…. I hope there's no pressure πŸ˜€, haha. It'll be awhile
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, cool - good to know. I just saw the formula called Holland ... and thought hmmm... when one day you settle on a line - I'll make the switch once I run out of my GHE πŸ‘ no pressure... I got years of growing at my pace to go :)
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@HazeyBobby, Yah, me too. I'm still trying to find a good fit and just want to try a couple more lines to see difference, it any. Oh! And Dutch treat is a potting soil. Future Harvest is out of Kelowna British Columbia πŸ‘.
FoTwenny
FoTwennycommentedweek 184 years ago
What a beautiful cultivar! Expertly grown and located for and she returns the love 10 fold! Enjoy the beautiful fruits of your labor! Happy harvest!
FoTwenny
FoTwennycommented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, I just noticed my auto-correct fail πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@FoTwenny, Thank you! I can't wait till the one week cure so I can bust it up and get goingπŸ˜€
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommentedweek 164 years ago
Some real wonderful colas in there πŸ‘Œ they could swell up more in another week or two πŸ‘
HazeyBobby
HazeyBobbycommented4 years ago
@JinksyGrows, yes good reference to NL - looks similar.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@HazeyBobby, I really hope soπŸ˜€. Maybe three-ish weeks to go(?). I think she's going to look alot like northern lights#1. Big and fluffy kid, for sure.
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 95 years ago
She looks very great bro πŸ˜πŸ‘ the color is perfect πŸ‘Œ
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows,nothing to thank :-) and thank you πŸ˜…πŸ‘
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@MadeInGermany, Thanks my friend. Camera makes her look a little better then she is, but we're improving πŸ˜‰. Cheers. I'm really behind on my contacts updates. I'll drop by tonight and read up on your happenings πŸ‘
DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowscommentedweek 85 years ago
What is the purpose of your Bamboo sticks? Is that just for branch support during the late stages?
DeepRootGrows
DeepRootGrowscommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, that’s a great idea. That is one thing I hate about skrog is it’s impossible to move the plant for sometime.
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@DeepRootGrows, For mobility I use bamboo sticks instead of a scrogg. It's more work, but I'm able to move them around as I pleaseπŸ‘. I insert the bamboo when I do final pot up, into the new soil where there is no root system yet. I use it at first to train the plants outwards and inner laterals into open positions. When I flip, I remove most the training wires and then use the bamboo to brace them inwards over time. As the stretch continues, I can see what and where I need to make adjustments. During flower, none of the new wires are pulling, just bracing the laterals in place. Holds the flower weight very well and I can use them to create an even canopy and adjust as neededπŸ‘. This is all to avoid scrogging, for mobility. Can be a pain in the ass too, though. Haha!πŸ˜…
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 25 years ago
Have a nice start πŸ‘πŸ™πŸ» Nice strain
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows,Keep it up πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘Œ Norhing to thank
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@MadeInGermany, Thanks so much man!πŸ™‚ I am really looking forward to see what the dragon can do for me. I'm an indica guy, but Dutchy is my first trek into Sativa/Sativa Dom. I'm excited πŸ˜€. Cheers and thank you again! Happy trails this week my friend.
JP148
JP148commentedweek 184 years ago
πŸŒ±πŸ’πŸ‘. All this grows plants are lovely. Very nice job
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@@JP148, Twas a good run, even with its problems. Zero complaints βœŠπŸ‘Œ
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 184 years ago
Another great harvest! Congratulations!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Buddha2, Thank you!!!
WeedTheNorth
WeedTheNorthcommentedweek 184 years ago
Looks great my man πŸ»πŸŒ±πŸ€πŸ™ŒπŸ™πŸ‘ŠI'm smoking some cali dragon 🌢️🌢️🌢️ keep em coming!!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@WeedTheNorth, Ohhhh Cali dragon sounds great...πŸ˜ƒ. Thanks man, I shall keep pumping em out πŸ‘Œ
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 184 years ago
πŸ‘Œ Great Work mate !!!!!! πŸ‘Œ
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@Grey_Wolf, Word, thank you GreyπŸ™
MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAcommentedweek 184 years ago
Very nice
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@MaryJaneUSA, Thank you kindlyπŸ™πŸ˜€
ButtersStotch
ButtersStotchcommentedweek 184 years ago
Awesome form and fade man!
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@ButtersStotch, Thanks ButterπŸ˜‰. Very impressed with her phenos. Couldn't be happier with the way she turned/turned outπŸ‘
ROM101
ROM101commentedweek 184 years ago
Nice finish mate enjoyπŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@ROM101, Party Time!πŸ˜€ Thanks ROM, I shall enjoy ASAP πŸ‘
NuggetPawn
NuggetPawncommentedweek 174 years ago
Beautiful buds 😊
JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowscommented4 years ago
@NuggetPawn, Word up! Thanks man!πŸ˜€