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Smokin_Joe Smokin_Joe
4 years ago
Day 50: So this will likely be the last true Veg week. Next week I'm going to to start walking the light schedule down in daily increments similar to how I went from 18 to 20 after seedling stage. I won't be pulling down so much this week either. We're at 6.5-7" tall and 11x13 wide, maybe slightly wider. She is starting to give off a very weak grassy smell with what seems like myrcene or perhaps pinene in the background. You really have to get into the leaves or LST a bit to smell it strongly. I'll continue to update/edit this week with the daily picture and post as I go. Day 51: Net on it's way Day 52: Watered: 2.5L purified water, 927 PPM, 71F, 6.45pH, 3tsp FFBB, 2.5 tsp FFGB. Day 54: Will install scrog net tonight. Day 55: She snuck up on me, 9" and 17.5" to the light. Looked fine, but readjusted to 20 anyway. See below: I did not install the veg net... I did begin to attempt to, and in fear of doing more harm than good at the moment decided to hold off. I may use the flowering net if nothing else. As I got into the plant I started removing fan leaves that were not getting any light: under the canopy in the center and a few outside, perhaps 9-10 total leaves, but still the most in one session to date (more on this in a second). I paused because I wanted to dedicate more time to the defoliation than I had, including snipping off 2-3 potential clones (first attempt) from the suckers near the bottom outside areas. I have successfully propagated tomatoes before, so I have minor experience. This will be attempted tomorrow morning. Upon review of the leaves I removed I found that several of them have discoloration. I know that some of these leaves took some major damage during my LST attempts by fault of rough plant tie work, all of them received very little if any light recently, and the rest of the plant looks fine (**note yellowish color in Day 54 picture is solely poor camera work, new growth was a lighter green at first, now all uniformly green elsewhere old and new growth both). So I don't want to worry too much, but I will put it to a question. I want to note that I plan to flush with 1-3 gallons of plain filtered watered in the next watering (holding flushing solution til harvest) to prevent salt build up. I have been getting minimal runoff, but with the super soil / coir 70:30 mix and half strength nutrients I have been avoiding it on purpose. Will post before and after picks tomorrow. Day 56: Some considerable defoliation, especially including yesterday's removals as well. There is a before and after I'm the pics, I'll try to get some side shots tomorrow to show the space below the canopy. I was careful to mainly remove fan leaves or areas without hope of decent light. I also took 5 potential clones, all from near the bottom - 'suckers' as I've heard them called. I will update with those to start week 9. Three of the clones are pretty small and may not make it, but I'm hopeful for the other two. Pics tomorrow!
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Grow Questions
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joestarted grow question 4 years ago
Topping Question: When Topping, tutorials state to wait til you have 4-6 nodes. Does this count the cotyledon leaves, or for that matter the first single serrated leaf? Where do you begin counting nodes? Thanks in advance!
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Nor_Cal_Kannabliss
Nor_Cal_Kannablissanswered grow question 4 years ago
The first true leaf! not the cotyledon leafs. Hope this helps! Happy growing!
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joestarted grow question 4 years ago
Sorry - Another topping / training question: When is the best time to "Top" your plants in regards to time of the day, e.g. morning/midday/night in terms of light schedule? In short: do you cuts your plants when the lights come on, before they go off, or somewhere in between?
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 4 years ago
I don't think it makes a difference really. Whatever time is most suitable for yourself. For me it is in the morning before lights go off or sometimes in the evening when the just come on. What I will say though, is make sure she's well fed and healthy looking before doing and most strains bounce back very, very quickly. 👍🌱
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joestarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm looking to rest my concerns that these removed fan leaves from lower/center canopy are not simply just appearing so due to lack of light and prior plant tie damage. Focus on the yellow/brown discoloration, actual physical damage is accounted for. More details in main post.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
After reading the main post and checking out the leaves that you removed, I would have to say it is from lack of light and prior tie damage. Everything else seems fine.
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joestarted grow question 4 years ago
Getting ready to install carbon filter; found myself wondering if growers typically leave their filters/exhaust/fans on during dark periods? Up to this point, I've had everything on one power-strip/timer: circulation fan, exhaust fans, and lights. Should I keep anything on 24/7?
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Setup. Ventilation
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Ttrichome
Ttrichomeanswered grow question 4 years ago
Most definitely need to run fans always. Humid stagnant air Is molds best friend. Cutting the fans off is inviting mould to germinate and take over. U always want air exchange and airflow in ur tent. Happy growing and stay lit fam.
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joestarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm not sure if this is nutrient burn or some sort of deficiency. Burnt tips were from possible previous nutrient burn, but now I'm seeing Brown spots and some discoloration. Please check my week to see full details.
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Leaves. Edges burnt
Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Meant to hit overfed big thumbs.. Sorry.
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joestarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm still not sure if this is a deficiency or some sort of burn. It's definitely spreading a bit more, and I'm unsure if there's time left to address it in the grow. Video of full plant in week.
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Leaves. Edges burnt
Leaves. Color - Dark-purple
Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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Hudson2384
Hudson2384answered grow question 4 years ago
looks like a magnesium deficiency. I checked your nutrient feed. I would have had you up the cal mag but you are so close to harvest. Having issues with this during the flush is not unusual. Your strain sat 50-55 days and you are in week 8 of flower I would recommend you flush / leach your plants of nutrients and chop very soon.
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Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joeweek 8
Thanks for putting my mind at ease folks, super appreciate it!
Bootymissles
Bootymisslesweek 18
I think my Kush'N'Cookies CBD will finish up around the same time as this thing. Can't wait to see some micro shots!
Bootymissles
Bootymissles
@Smokin_Joe, getting cloudy man!!
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Bootymissles, today's might be the best you get. I'll try to give it a go with the scope again later tonight
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 11
Very nice farming brother!!! Good luck the rest of the way!!!
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Tweezer, Thanks, best of luck over in your tent too! Looking big!!
northernMike
northernMikeweek 18
Great job👍 nice pics too!! Grow Big!!
DrJoint
DrJointweek 4
She is looking good ! Good luck!🌲🍀
Bootymissles
Bootymisslesweek 16
Looking great! I plan on popping my super critical bean after I finish up the Kush'N'Cookies CBD in a couple weeks! Can't wait to see your harvest.
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Bootymissles, I'll have to look into it. Really hoping to find some steady 1:1 genetics - or even better 2:3 ala Harle Tsu, Harlequin or Orange Herijuana strains. My fear is that the 2-3 folk who have tested this strain by this breeder (Reviews here &@ Seedsman) reported no CBD. I've no way of testing as the regulations in my area only allow craft testing and none for medical home grows yet despite legality. I note that Garden of Green is the breeder of both of our grows. If you end up getting a sample tested of the KnC CBD, would be very interested in the results!
Bootymissles
Bootymissles
@Smokin_Joe, yeah they claim it's a 1:1 like 19% CBD and 21% THC crazy lol
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Bootymissles, hey, what's the cannabinoid profile supposed to come out to on that kush n cookies Cbd? Is it a 1:1?
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Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randyweek 18
Wow good job bro for first time. Only gets better. How often do you use your calmag? I use 1ml per liter in every watering. Even with the fertilizer. Even though advanced nutrients says it has calmag added. There is something about LED lights and calmag deficiency. I use the 3 part ph perfect and I don't have problems anymore. My last grow I had the cotyldons turn yellow after 3-4 days and the leaves starting turning yellow a few days after. But once my fertilizer and calmag came it fixed it within a week and they took off. I used it on my new grow diary and watered my seedlings before they even popped out of the soil. I mixed it really weak. I used 1ml per.liter and they have been green since they popped up. Starting 4th set of leaves and the cotyldons are still green. Good job buddy 🤜🤛
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, you know what - I didn't really use a lot this grow, and kinda introduced it late on I believe, I'd have to go back through the weeks to see, but the bottle I have is still super full. Got me wondering if the auto's I have now might need some. And thanks for the props!
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarFweek 13
High, Nice looking canopy man!! 🙏🍀🍀🍀🙏
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Organic_LarF, Thanks much!
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechronicweek 11
Looking really good! You seem to be doing very well for ur first time? Cannabis is like kids... ur super nervous with the first one because everything is new. But by the time you have a second, third, fourth, etc... ur like an old pro. You figure out what’s really important, what’s worry worthy and you realize that you can relax and enjoy the experience before it’s all over and you are on to the next grow! Enjoy these early days, learn as much as you can and have fun. 🇨🇦
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
@Momgrowsthechronic, 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🤘🥁🎸
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@Momgrowsthechronic, Nope, down here in the US, my state approved indoor grow for medical patients at the top of the year. That's exactly why I want to try to the autos. Mainly worried about light leak in my space, even with blackout curtains and the Apollo tent. So far so good 🤞 I think with heat and light what it is in my area, I should stick to auto's in the summer, and in the fall/winter get the photo's I want in. I've seen people piggyback the two off another and switch the lights to 12/12 after the auto's flower, I think I can manage that.
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechronic
@Smokin_Joe, auto’s are a lot easier to grow and it’s seed to harvest in just 8-12 weeks (on average). It’s a great way to master growing healthy plants without the worry of switching them over to flower, light when they shouldn’t have light, length of grow, etc. They don’t usually yield as much as a photoperiod grow done right but I’ve come pretty close. And you have the opportunity to grow and sample multiple strains per year! Congrats on ur country going legal, are you in Canada too?
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RockyRidger
RockyRidgerweek 14
Plant looks good. How’s the smell developing? My SCB started getting a very sweet fruity smell at that stage. Of the 4 varieties I grew in the first run the SCB cured bud has the best smell and flavour.
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@RockyRidger, I did... the newest ones were put out by the window since I also have the one tent. So they are no longer in the most humid environment. I guess I can try to rig something up to keep it humid longer. Right now I have 2 in solo cups in soil/coir not doing so hot - they were great until transplant - and 2 in water still that look ok. If I could just keep 1 I'll be happy, so I'll keep at it. 4 more seeds of this in the box too :) Clones are roughly 4 weeks old at this point I believe. Your autos are looking good by the way! Lots of good strains in there!
RockyRidger
RockyRidger
@Smokin_Joe, No I dont have the space to have a separate veg room for clones. Have a run of autoflowers going in my 4x4 tent(box) right now. Are you keeping the clones in a humid environment? How old are the clones?
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@RockyRidger, the smell right now is definitely growing stronger day by day. It's got a heavy/musky sweet scent to it, maybe a slight diesel aroma if you really get in there or like after the last defoliation. It's seems most noticeable before and after watering - maybe only before since I'm carrying her near my face to the tub 😂 Did you get any clones off your run? I've heard she's hard to clone, but I had thought I nailed it anyway; now even the healthiest of the clones are struggling though.
Asoci120
Asoci120week 13
love it amazing one bro check my report too if u got time, good vibes ✊
JP148
JP148week 17
Wicked pretty. Nicely done🌱👍
JP148
JP148week 16
Really nice🌱
JP148
JP148week 13
Pretty girl🌱
JP148
JP148week 9
Nice job 🌱one bushy girl
JP148
JP148week 9
Joe topping can be done anytime but I prefer early into days light cycle. I feel the warmth and light help dry and help heal the cut wound. I won’t mist for two days either. Moisture helps breed infection.
Smokin_Joe
Smokin_Joe
@@JP148, thanks for the insight! Going to have to watch the humidity for sure as she gets bushier so she doesn't get moist/mold.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 18
Lovely grow man. Try not to push so much water/feeds through your plant. You are flushing out all the enzymes when you get run-off. No run-off with soil. Unless you are hard flushing and even then it's always recommend to grab a cup and mix it with your new mix to quickly promote good bactria/enzyme production. Good luck bro.