can you do topping and do LST on the one plant or ...

at you flowering has begun. now nothing to do is not necessary from what I wanted. Just stretch the side branches so that the light hits

hi Julie, yes you absolutely can do more trainings together of curse not in the same day, give your plant time to recover, you can top, give some days and do some lst, than you can decide if topping again or just working on the lst. you can add scrog or supercropping. the only cons of these methods is that you have to extend the veg time but you will rewarded with the yield. DO NOT DO ALL ABOVE IF ALREADY SWITCHED TO FLOWER cheers

Don't TOP or FIM if already 12/12, the only things you can do at this point is LST, i do mine with zip-ties (check my diaries), LST will open up the canopy and make the plant get more light so it gets more bushy in effect, also lolipopping/defoliation of the lower floors would boost yield and flower-building, don't be affraid of training your plants- but do the HST, topping, FIM etc in the vegetation phase, before switching 12/12

I think doing both would be good. I see you're doing outdoor so you should be getting an even level of light from the sunrise/set, so neither is absolutely essential. However if you top it, once or a couple times it will have a nice even canopy, be flatter and have more main colas instead of the one main. If you LST it will open up so much more shaded areas to getting light and you may not get so many tiny popcorn buds at the bottom, but big nice fat buds, also the more training you do, the more control you have over how your plant turns out. Its your plant and if you did no top or LST it would still turn out good outdoors, but training will give you more freedom and choices. The plants look great already, happy outdoor season! :)

You can do both, infact depending on how long you are going to veg for you could do every technic there is on one plant and still be fine

Let's see. Yes you can do one or the other or as most do, a combination of various techniques, TOP, FIM, SCROG, DEFOLIATION, SUPERCROPPING and LST. As for the ones you ask for. TOP'ing is very easy to do and then you forget about it. The cons is that it is a high stress technique, since you are wounding the plant and it takes time for it to recover (normally up to a week) and it is ill advised to do it in a plant already in 12 hour light schedule, since you risk it not recovering in time. LST can be done at any point during the plants life, specially during the flowering stretch to keep the canopy even. My advice, since you already put your plants to flower, try LST only; you could seriously hurt your potential yield if you TOP now. As an alternative to toping in flower, you could try to supercrop the main top: this is when you crunch the main stem between your fingers and bend the cola in a 90° angle, it's easy and can be done in flower, plus it has a similar effect as TOP'ing, as it promotes lateral tops to develop without loosing the main cola. I did it during my last grow several times during every stage of flower, to keep the plant height in check with very good yield results.

Hi, You can do both plants, both look more than ready (The two bigger ones for now). I always do, check my diaries if you want a better insight on how and the before and afters. (easier than me explaining as results speak for themselves.) It would greatly improve your yields come harvest time. Plus will help you control your height for a move even canopy. Hope this helps.