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Harvest preferences - substrate/trim wet or dry

ClydeGrows
ClydeGrowsstarted grow question 2 years ago
Just some brain picking! How do y'all like to harvest? How many of you leave your plant to dry in the substrate (if soil or Coco)? How many of you harvest it from wet substrate for longer drying time? I know it'll depend on environment differences, but v curious! Same q for trim
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
I harvest from moist substrate and now only ever dry trim. Letting the plants dry out in the pots would stress them and the most important thing you want to avoid right before harvest, is stress. Harvesting from very wet substrate can cause over hydrated buds that are then more likely to develop rot problems when drying. The difference between dry substrate and moist substrate vs drying time is insignificant. The most critical things when drying are temps and air circulation. Too much of either and crispy bland buds result. Not enough of either and you risk rot, so it is a balancing act - lower temps need more air flow and higher temps less air flow. Drying should take 7-10 days, if they are crisping up after 3 days, change something, if they are still soggy after 7 days, change something. ALWAYS dry in a dark environment, drying buds in direct light will degrade THC quite quickly. Wet trimming forces the plant to lose all its moisture through the buds, significantly altering terpene quality and degrading cannabinoids too. Wet trimming may seem easier, but for top quality, dry trim. Drying plants whole takes longer. Cutting off the branches makes drying easier and the branches dry more evenly when cut off. I use wire coat hanger to drape the branches on and it works a treat. Extended periods of darkness before harvest is BS and has no scientific merit, it is pure "bro science". Same goes for any theories involving the use of boiling water or ice/cold water treatments. Harvesting in the morning or within about 2-3 hours of the lights coming on will provide the tastiest buds in my experience, the plants terpenes have been "recharged" overnight and have not yet been evaporated off/reduced by 6+ hours of light/sun. At this time the plants metabolism is at its peak freshness/activity, so it follows that the compounds in the cannabinoids will also be at their peak quality. I have done numerous experiments with harvest timing (morning, afternoon, night, evening, pre-dawn - you name it!) and stand firmly by the 2-3 hours after sun up/lights on time frame and if I can't harvest then, I will wait another day until I can, so strongly I believe in this principle. They way I see it, you want to harvest the happiest and least stressed plant possible. Anything that would risk altering this peak happiness and least stress goal (darkness, boiling water, ice water, over dry substrate etc), is to be avoided. Just a happy healthy plant enjoying life, then without any bad vibes - chop - then thank the plant Gods for your bounty! Those are my opinions based on 35+ years of growing, research and real world experimentation, but what would I know? Hope this helps, Organoman.
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SleepHuntMadScience
SleepHuntMadScienceanswered grow question 2 years ago
I try to do 24-48 hours darkness at 35% humidity with temp around 15-17 C before chopping. With chop i wet trim all leaves without tricombs (fan leaves). 15-17 C for drying with 55% humidity the first day after chop, then 60% humidity till dry in 10 days or so. I’m going to try a budwash on my outdoor harvest this year.
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ChitownCannaChica
ChitownCannaChicaanswered grow question 2 years ago
Defoliate while alive, cut branches and hang for 7-10 days with passive airflow at 68 degrees f and 58% rh. Cure in grove bags
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
Rh of 63% is perfect for joints I find. If you prefer bowls aim for 53% I like to cure in fridge near 0, acts as a natural negative pressure vacuum. Pull out a little batch whenever needed and let it sit out in a jar for couple hour with desired rh % pack. Just make sure.nothing else is in fridge or your weed will absorb the moisture.
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 years ago
There is normally a reason for shit. If you can't find out why something is done from a biological or chemical point of view its normally just hocus pocus. 3 days of 0 red/ir prior to harvest has been show to increase terpenes/flavinoids. Simultaneously dropping rh as low as it goes to close stomata and prevent terpene release. Straight after do 48-72 hours of darkness / no water. (No flushing required on organic grows) Use boiling water to kill the rootzones this will forcibly close the plants stomata during the death spiral, this slows down the rate of which the plant can perspire and release water. This leaves only the bud as a way water can escape , slowing down the process dramatically. There is a massive industry in weed and there is alot of $$$ making sure every corner that can be cut will be cut. Time is 💰. Be aware of that when the greatest new method that cuts curing time. Nothing in life worth doing is done hastily. Secret to cure is low and slow. Personally never allow temps above 67 1 week prior to harvest. Terpenes can start to degrade above 67. Also prefer to cure in a fridge
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hey pal. Harvesting, there really is soooo many dif versions of "HOW THEY SAY U SHOULD", So, as for prolonging the drying time, yes, you want to do that. I've dried many dif ways. And my best results to date have been harvesting whole. Roots and all. So, I give a good watering and let it dry out. And then when its bone dry. But not dry to the point where the plant is sucking soil. And practically dying. I pull it out. Break away all the clay and left the bulk of the hard green roots that start and spread out from the bottom of the stem. If you have a lot of soil in it still, as ppl pull it out when the soil is still wet. And can't get it all off, so bag the roots so when you hang dry your bud is filled with soil. I've also left my hydro weed in the buckets and just chopped the roots at the net pot. So again leaving all the heavy green roots and left it to dry upright. If your leaf-calyx ratio is high. Then you really don't want your trim to fully dry and curl back into the bud, as this of course will lower its quality. So, if you think that'll happen. Trim it after a few days and when leafs are limp. Or wait right up until they go crisp and u can spend hours trimming. I've also trimmed a plant wet. But, i really can't compare, as that was my 1st grow. I've trimmed buds (testers) and tbh, the differences are very small. The trim just really prolongs the drying time. But, if you get the 101s right. 21c max, in reality you want to be hitting 17c but 21 is fine. As I know most homes go above that. 60rh, in a perfect environment you want 59%rh & 17c temps. My 2nd round of growing was mainly harvested mid summer. Some of my plants got struck with an awful hay smell. Took 1 month to rid 90% of the smell. 2 months on all my green is banging now. I cured a lot with leafs on also and without. And again, the differences are very small. But there is a slight better profile on the whole 2+month cured bud. Good luck pal
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