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Hydro Drip System - Any tips?

DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowerstarted grow question 2 years ago
Hi, is anyone familiar with hydroponic drip systems? I did my first two cycles in DWC and wanted to try something different. I was intrigued and purchased the "Platinium HydroPro 60" (similar to Atami's Wilma) and would fill it with expanded clay. Continue in the comments ->
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispereranswered grow question 2 years ago
Don’t answer questions here much at all but you struck a nerve with my wheelhouse here👍. #1. Not really. Minus varying different sizes I’ve found it to be generally the same across most brands. Its water retention properties are limited regardless so, your application and feed frequency will matter much more in this system. Don’t get stuck on brands and bullshit. It’s a expanded clay. #2. In a system such as this - it’s similar to dwc in terms of fluctuation sensitivity; finding the feed frequency sweet spot is learned through experience with it. Given its new to you - I’d start with about 4-6, 15-30minute cycles a day and monitor growth progress. I doubt very much you’d go wrong or have detrimental plant growth in this window of cycles each day so it’s a good place to start. #3. Yes - always aerate any standing solution if you can. Even a small stone in the rez is better than none. Oxygen is an extremely important element for any plants roots and this is the way to get/maintain that in your solution. You can get away without it on DTW systems but it’s a requirement for pretty much any recirculating hydro system. #4. Now ur talk’n my language. Simple answer is yes. Adding a filter to hold debris and medium from getting into the rez (and thus clogging up your pumps and distribution lines) is a requirement for most other mediums like coco and purlite. Hydroton - probably unnecessary. Id recommend paint strainer bags and have used them for years. Cheap, disposable and available on Amazon in a wide range of sizes. As per #1 and #2. Above, this is one reason why I use 100% purlite on my recirc grows - it holds moisture longer than pebbles which allows for lower feed frequency and theres an element of security in terms of seedling stage light penetration that you simply can’t get with hydroton. Purlite and coco are certainly more forgiving mediums than straight hydroton in pretty much every method. That said - purlite needs to be rinsed pretty well before you throw it in the system and it’s always preferable to top layer some pebbles anyway to cut down on algae growth created by the lights. Id recommend you run purlite and filters before hydroton. That’s just my personal preference learned from my own beats. #5. Probably and there’s nothing at all wrong with that. If anything, it’s simple insurance if your drip lines clog up or your pump breaks. #6. Five weeks veg. In 2ish gal. Pots will be just fine in a system like this. Although if you’re not running autos I’d cut it back to 3-4 weeks (essentially the start of veg maturity) for the sake of speed and efficiency. Lastly - I didn’t read, nor do I care about any of the other commentary. These are the correct answers to your questions because I’ve been building these kinds of systems for myself for 3 years now with exceptional results. They do require familiarity through experience so you can expect that you’ll have to make tweaks on future cycles to realize it’s full potential. When you get it up and running and if you have any other questions or troubleshooting issues, just DM me👍.
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SaiyanLettuce
SaiyanLettuceanswered grow question 2 years ago
Rinse your clay pebbles till water runs clean then place in bucket with ph h20 around 5.7ph for a day or 2 Check your fertigation solution daily I would suggest morning and evening till you gain what your grow environment is. Flying skulls Z9 1&2 helps a ton with ph stabilizing and keeping the lines clean filter helps to. KIS and basic on your first grow, going all out will make any issues that come up harder to figure out.
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Maskedcucumber
Maskedcucumberanswered grow question 2 years ago
1. You really need to buffer your clay pebbles (lay them in a 5.8ph water for 1 week) and clean them like 5 times to have less red dust in the soup 2. At first when they are 9-15 days from seed, depending on how big they are, you should irrigate 15mn every 4 hours. Then you increase while they grow bigger till you reach 15mn on, 15 mn off when they reach 40 cm. Don't put the drippers too close from the pellets (if you use them). And you decrease the frequence of irrigation in the last weeks of flowering. 3. Indeed yes specially if you don't have a water cooler if your water is hotter than 22 degrees celsius 4. You should use special foam filter they use in aquariums 5. Yes and they may obstruct the holes in your system but it means they are big and then you can cut roots to make a bigger hole. Mine didn't get stuck everytime but it happened. By the way many growers cut the tips of the roots in order to boost the plant when they are big enough. 6. I would say yes but they should be quite tall in the end. With 24 of veg from seed it reaches 80 to 90cm so better use a scrog...
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Esoteric_growing
Esoteric_growinganswered grow question 2 years ago
Type of clay pebbles makes little difference but the key is to make sure the pebbles are as clean as possible before putting in the pots. Yes start with one feed a day and then 2 around 5-7 days and increase as plant grows in veg ending up with 6 feeds a day by the time you go 12/12. No point in having it on 24/7 as I have grown huge plants without the need to run it consistently. No need for a air pump at all Also no need to have a filter at the bottom of the pots. Yes there is a possibility the roots will end up in the tank but in over 10 years of using the system this has never been a problem. And yes you could veg for that long with a single plant in your area but why not cut the veg time down by having having 4 in that area, they would be my choice. In a perfect world with using one plant I would probably go with a 20L pot but don’t think there would be a massive difference. Hope this helps pal, I would definitely not feed for 24/7 although I have tried this before but found no benefit at all no matter how big the plant. Any other questions feel free to private message me👍 Also I would steer clear of autos as the quality usually cannot compare to regular or feminised normal photoperiod varieties.
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Salokin
Salokinanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hi, I am growing on a nutriculture flo-gro 520. I personally love it when you only grow one big plant, as it, at least for me, turns into a DWC at some stage due to the roots growing into the nutrient tank beneath. I usually have to airstones and an additional recirculating pump in the reservoir and never had issues with my roots. Downside for multiple plants is , that you only have one nutrient reservoir and all plants will get the same mix. Which led to issues for me in the past, so I reverted to either all same strain or only one massive plant which serves me very well on my 80x80 tent. I usually start the plants of with a 15min on and off in the beginning and then during the first growth spurt in veg switch to continuous irrigation. The kind of Wilma you mentioned above, a friend of mine owns and complaints that the drainage between bucket and reservoir get clocked by roots at some point. Also you are kind of locked in in terms of distribution of plants in your tent. It I guess that’s preference and depends on the size of your tent. Hope that helps a little, for any further questions please DM me. Happy growing :)
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GoldenWeedGrower
GoldenWeedGroweranswered grow question 2 years ago
I have this system but I use it for aeroponic grown. Here some answer to your question: 1) I think you are right, but I tried several different types of clay and in my opinion it doesn't influence a lot the growth 2) The only way you have to irrigate your grow is to attach a water pump to the system and so the irrigation is continue. The issue here is you can store in the grow box a lot of Humidity, so maybe you should add a dehumidifier OR add a smat plug and schedule the pump to switch ON/OFF periodically (e.g. 10 min ON and 30 min OFF) 3) Yes 4) Never used any filter 5) Sure they do and you should help her to find the way to the water (and when it happen remember to add in the water a stone attached to an air pump ) 6) Yes, but you can consider to do NOT use any medium and leave the roots on air with an aeroponic grow based on the platinum system. If you want you can follow me to learn more, and if so I can add some pictures to explain you better how it works ;) Have an happy growing ! If you want you can follow me to learn more, and if so I can add some pictures to explain you better how it works ;) Have an happy growing !
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
Kinda like smart pot system. I have not used any of them but would be interested in it. Hopefully a hydro head chimes in Good Luck!
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DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGroweranswered grow question 2 years ago
CONTINUE ->>>>>>>>>>>>> I have several questions about this and I hope someone can clarify my ideas. 1) I intend to buy good quality expanded clay, for hydroponics. There are different types, those that have a greater capacity to retain water and those that are modeled to prevent the clay from storing water. I believe that the one that does not retain water and therefore allows more frequent irrigations is preferable; 2) The frequency of irrigation. -> THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION How should I adjust? I really have no idea and I have very little cultivation experience (only 2 DWC cycles in my life). Is there any watering schedule I should follow (taking into account the medium: expanded clay for hydro)? Or do I have to keep the water pump on all the time and therefore the medium always wet? 3) Do I need an air pump in the solution tank? I think so, but I'm not sure 4) I saw that Atami also recommends filters to be placed on the bottom of the pots to prevent debris or other from falling into the bucket. Would this filter, similar to medical gauze, allow me to also use other mediums such as perlite or coir? 5) Is there a possibility that the roots will pass through the holes in the pot and end up in the solution tank? This way I believe it would become a mix of DWC and Hydro Drip Sysyem 6) The system is made up of 4 x 12 liter pots, which will most likely be filled with expanded clay only (in the future I will also try other inert mediums). Is this capacity suitable for autoflowers and photoperiods (with around 40 days vegetative)? I apologize for the length, but I found very few things on the internet. I still have 2 months left before installing the new system and I have plenty of time to learn
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