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thanks for all assistance for my latest grow question. Unfortunately, I can't respond directly, so here are some responses to al lof your suggestions so far: @CRiSPrGrow i had issues of my plants getting too tall and heat building up last grow. Those issues have been completely remedied this grow. The little white disc you see suspended by plant wire over one of the plants is a Nest remote thermostat puck to tune my AC to. Heat is certainly not an issue, and since switching from 7 gal pots with no LST to 5 gallon pots with LST, along with venting the dehumidifier heat out of the tent, heat simply isnt a factor at all. 74 during lights on max, i have seen it dip to 68 during lights off. All within healthy range. to top it off, using my laser on the leaves closest to the light right now yields a result of 75, 1 degree above ambient. I am certain that the cupping is not from temp, light, or heat stress. @@Athos I think it is lockout (which likely prevented actual burn). I have been watching my tips and the burn damage on the tips are about a month old with no progression. The runoff EC tells me how hot the coco is (PH in runoff is concerning too, but the high salt content is likely resulting in such high POH in runoff and I know better than to use coco runoff as anything more than a loose guide), and I think it is because I pumped a shit ton of Epson salts in trying to cure red stems. Bad idea. My tap water is about 0.25 EC, so going that low is simply not an option. I am doing daily watering at around 1.2 EC (4ml calmagic, 2 ml micro, 4 ml bloom, and full dose of drip clean per gallon,) thats it right now, although I think I might add photosynthesis plus back in next feeding to maintain the microherd. I dropped 1 entire EC in runoff since yesterdays post, with no additional damage observed. I think I am on the right track, thank you. And yeah, I should have taken pics without the LEDs, but I have had an extremely busy week. It is what it is. The color is 100% consistent with calcium deficiency, just harsher. Thanks! @mad_scientist , I am DEFINITELY aware of how fulvic works (controversially) which is why I was so surprised that the plants seemed to handle such high EC with no apparent problems. I am pretty sure it is lockout. The plants that appear to be fox tailing just today started showing orange hairs for the first time. My kush from last grow fox tailed like you described, and I am pretty sure that this is not that (as heat and light stress WERE an issue last time but has been fixed). My 2 autoseemangos and 1 NLxBB look much closer to finish with mature looking calyxes and mostly orange hairs that look like they are about to retract. The ones you describe as fox tailing are still fattening up noticeably day by day, have immature calexes, and barely an orange hair to be found. Since I harvested and dried my plants all at once last grow(drying in the tent), having 3 out of 5 ready MUCH earlier than the rest does present me a logistical problem for drying the ripe ones. I will monitor it and yeah, it does look like my fox-tailing kush last time, but that one actually had mature calyxes under the fox tails and orange hairs before the fox tailing; these are still FATTENING, not fox-tailing, have immature calyxes, and only started orange hairs. I am confident they just need more time (as long as I fix the burn/lockout issue that I seem to be having). Thank you for your input as I can tell you know your shit NONE of the plants have anything close to cloudy or amber trichs at this point. All are glass clear. for what its worth, as I have heard and observed that the trichs of autos grown in coco under LEDs dont turn like other methods of growing. Thanks to all for all suggestions. Appreciated.

Your buds looking great, sorry to read of the problem! I think your on the right track by "restoring balance" before returning to heavy flower feeding. Best of luck I'll follow along with you! :)

@@GrowThings, i accidentally put my dry weight in the wet weight on this site, i just corrected that. i didnt weigh it before drying or trimming, so i got 280 grams dry trimmed, including popcorn but not sugar leaf.

What was the trimmed dry weight?

Hi, oumaan thats hard going away for a needed vacation, coming back to sick plants. I hope your conclusion wont be that to stay a t home now. I hope the plants get well and ejoy your Grow

@Bulbli . Thanks for the shoutout. You are the tops. Keep doing it

Just wanted to say thanks for holding my hand to a few folks @mrs_larimar of course, thank you so much and looking forward to some fun times on gd; my main man @mudbug great hanging out with you growmie ; @pharmaz and @silverback_guerilla; new friends like @bigdaddyk @valhallasgarden and @slimsativa; My ghost brother @beans, check out his one leaf GONNA MAKE IT GONNA BEAST IT ; Everyone who stopped by to help me @JUNGLE_B4RNS of course, @Teamdirtbag2 too, @hawkbo, @tryhard, @tonino, @tazard @mad_scientist @spinnergrow, @poleeg1986 – he’s an amazing European canna porno director check out his gorillas my good lord save me; special thanks to all the Growvengers ; @wheetobeme, @experimentgreen, @weedeep, @chi_town_white_boy @chillum_mafia and even @mulch – play your part man bless ! Thanks to Nico @fast_buds for some cool testers, my favorite hat and some fun times on GD !

@CRiSPrGrow, i am trying. if i may explain why my posts have been anemic, while i thank you for paying attention and contributing to any success i might have, you are invited to read this wall of text (although not required cuz it certainly is tl;dr worthy and really won't help anyone improve specifically on anyone else's grow as it so both specific to you and i and general as a whole, including you and i) otherwise, discard the rest and pretend it is a part of my personal "diary" you accidentally found the diary in a drawer and ignore it; i understand completely because this is the internet and it is an unsolicited rant, so by no means do i fault you for skipping it. it may be more for than for you, but it certainly includes you. either way, here it goes my 1st diary was more like a bible or encyclopedia of what i did. this one has been like the cliff notes of a 3 page, ambiguous unfinished story, i hope this update changes that i loved doing my first diary of my first grow here. aside from odd memory issues on stable current chrome, for a year, this is THE place for this sort of thing anyway, my first diary had (as well as the plants, themselves) most of my full attention at almost all times, sometimes obsessing to get it right because i couldn't afford to fail considering how much $$ i invested on a first time grow. I was repeatedly and often opening the tent to look at them and make sure nothing was wrong every 15 minutes or so when i didn't actually need to, while also, most importantly, with no pain or distractions of any significance to make me not hear them when they were talking to me. i was a n00b and inexperienced, hoever i was present and available at almost all feasible times, and while i made some major mistakes i hopefully corrected this time (while learning new mistakes that i will correct next time) and was pretty successful partially because of it, this site encouraged me by helping me document measurable progress, helpful peer support, and experienced advice, among many other things. i was WAY happy with my results, even though i made a ton of mistakes that only experience can provide; one can't google one's individual circumstances after all or pre google potential "issues" that pop up, so one must seek the root of the problem which was how i approached my first grow, to almost a laser focus... and i reported my results thoroughly on grow diaries and it was all good, from sprout to smoke, both documenting for sharing and experiencing while growing for myself. it absolutely fulfilled a need for me, that while curious about, didn't actually know that i needed i apologize to this amazing community, that i haven't exactly been the same as i was last grow and holding up my end of the bargain as far as detailing my experiences so that others can learn from my mistakes or success, and contributing my facts, speculation, and actual measurements/documentation as far as in communication with the plants, and to grow diaries, (which aside from some frustrating UI quirks that I wish they could address, such as memory/lag issues on current google chrome), i apologize as i am quite distracted and have been for weeks by sudden convergent external pressure that has to be dealt with immediately (i obsessed over the captions first diary, this grow, maybe 3 or 4 captions total so far, instead of 100% captioning) i absolutely adore (of course because of the rest of you who have embraced this platform for sharing and communicating and helping each other) grow diaries both in concept and execution, as well as being one of the most amazing internet communities i have ever been a part of (for reference, i got my first aol disk mid to lat 90s, so a community like this is nearly impossible to come by even back then.) whether via sharing a breadth of knowledge/experience and desire to see others succeed instead of needless drama, this place is SUPER high on the list of of communities I have seen since basically the dawn of the internet) and you, @CRiSPrGrow, are exactly one of the reasons why so here is the deal and why this weeks update, and your simple comment mean so much to me, personally. i have been under some consistent, persistent emotional & financial strain and loss from a variety of mostly benign sources that all, unfortunately for me, have converged on me at once over a short period just as i started watering the beans early august, so i haven't really been "present" this grow almost as soon as they sprouted so getting back involved mentally via communication with the plants and members of this community, such as you, this is a good thing for me in more ways than i can articulate to be blunt, your simple comment snapped me right out of my funk, and got me doing what i do best, thinking and executing. thanks for noticing the difference. this catharsis is as important as taking my girls to a proper and sustained cure. i will add a bonus pic of my new "additive" to my curing jars soon. hopefully i will caption it too :D things are likely to get worse for me emotionally (at least in the short term, only, God willing), but getting back to the "normal" me despite emotional fear/pain/instability is amazing progress so far. my attention to the girls and updates to this diary is proof this post from you, and our and others interaction last week helping me diagnose wtf was happening to my healthy plants, was invaluable the funny/sad thing is, i cant smoke or eat weed right now (i haven't tried my tincture yet since these events started), because even with my known and self imported genetics in mostly retail packaging, that i grew from those retail seeds myself, (indica heavy, high cbd ruderalis/auto heavy strains, that should CURE anxiety),it STILL enhances my anxiety and emotional pain (just like it enhances the good and fun things in your life. weed makes good things better, no question about that. but it also makes bad things worse, at least for some people, like me, right now) so i cant really smoke or eat weed right now even though i desire its ability to heal me however, the magical herb that it is, my garden is giving me structure and strength right now. and getting back to my old self, via this grow diary and structured attention to my girls, is very therapeutic. the irony is that i can't smoke it to medicate myself, but growing it it is healing me. go figure that even NOT using her directly can help people (like me, right now) what a wonderful plant. thank you, @CRiSPrGrow, for inspiring this realization that this update is a sign post that i can read, of me coming back to "normal" ("normal" for ME, at least). that this too, shall pass whether you realized or meant to or not, this simple comment connected some dots that i probably wouldn't have realized without you (such as being more active with my plants and this diary is more of me being me because i am me than i have been for how many documented weeks now, and that means i am healing and getting back to "normal"). thanks brother, i appreciate you just being you, when you knew you should be you and just were you, because you have truly helped a stranger to soldier on during some rough times. keep being who you are, because you are absolutely killing it at being you. thank you again namaste

unless it snapped clean off, make a SPLINT out of some tape (not too tight, just like a cast keeping it in line), and it might be just fine. they are pretty tough and resilient in veg, especially if they are healthy, and yours looks plenty healthy in pic 1, day 35

FYI, I used autos and LEDs my first grow and I relied on trics and went FAR too long and they never did amber up. Look for other evidence. There will be a noticeable FATTENING right before ripening. If the trics arent going amber in your setup, if it looks like it would in ta bag AND has fattened up and the white hairs are gone, its probably done. I grow in coco, so take that for what it is worth, but don't make the mistake I did on my first grow and go too long and over ripen. You will lose terps and perhaps potency. I am NOT saying go early, but the fattening, retraction of hairs, and appearance of a high times centerfold may be a better indicator as I have heard that LEDs and autos don't produce amber tics and experienced this combo myself. take that for what its worth from a guy on his 2nd grow who went FAR too long with autos under LEDs

@CRiSPrGrow, my best guess as to what was happening and why, despite pumping in 4 ml/gal of cal/mag every feeding, is that the cations were latching on to the all or most of the cal/mag as there wasn't enough potassium to fill the sites so the it latched onto cal/mg instead. because my potassium was low strength, the plants gobbled that and weren't able to access it as additional cations that would be reserved for potassium that were instead grabbed the cal and mag. or vice versa Adding a large amount of potassium and cal/magreleased some cations, replenished it with the excess potassium, and probably stabilized them, which is why there is no evidence of new nute burn at 3.2 ec I don't know for a fact, but that was my guess as to why and the results "seem" to support that conclusion

@CRiSPrGrow, I think your answer was right, for the most part. They were undernourished. Last grow I pushed them until they burned a little on the tips; this year I wasn't as attentive and kept it at 1/2 strength even as they exploded in growth. I hit them last night with a "flush" of full strength nutes ON EVERYTHING for week 6 GH drain to waste nute schedule (and my supplement blend). I also added 2 teaspoons of Epson salts per gallon for an unheard of 3.2 EC. I was pretty sure I was going to awaken to tragedy with that hot of a mix. Not only was there very little evidence of new burn on them today, they seem perkier and the buds are NOTICEABLY fatter since last night. I was told NEVER to hit cannabis with GH nutes at full strength as it would fry them to a crisp, and that autos in particular were sensitive to too much nutes. There goes more "common wisdom" down the drain with my 5 gallons of runnoff. I also upped my PH to 6.0 on the dot as another answer suggested. As I approach daily feeding, I will likely alternate 5.7,5.8,5.9,6.0, and "maybe" even 6.1, to create a range to make sure we don't miss any micros along the way again. Thanks again for the advice! It appears to be simple general malnourished state. I will keep it updated.

@CRiSPrGrow, Thanks, I have been adding a little less than half a teaspoon of Epsom to the nutes for the mag, RQS says 1 -2 teaspoon per gallon should fix the sulfur issue. I will try 1 next feeding and if that doesn't help, 2 the following. they still are growing and drinking and have tons of green leaves (but each plant is getting like 2-4 leaves a day turning) and I am about to have to flip to every day feeding, so I am going to try that next feeding, although the Epsom drives my EC through the roof, they are barely showing signs of burn, even with Liquid Koolbloom. (most nutes still at half strength) I had a fear it was root aphids or fungal gnats so I put a bunch of yellow stickies on the floor and hung a few and they are thus far clean, so that makes me feel slightly better (SM-90 from day 1, methinks, plus root excellerator and photosynthesis plus) Thanks for your input. Dropping the light schedule is a last resort. I got all the way through with 20 last time, and I have seen others do the same with 24/0. Still want that killer yield. Have a great one!