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Universal nursery - Gelato
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ScrOG
weeks 1-21
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Week 1
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17.78
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Height
18 hrs
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Gzuscamp Gzuscamp
4 years ago
This is my first hydro grow and first time with clones. I have a few semi successful outdoor grows under my belt but the weather (hot AF) and caterpillar apocalypse (lost a beast of a plant and the tops of most others) last year are forcing me inside. Reservoir is an hdx 27 gallon tote with 15 gallons of actual water capacity about 1/4” under net pots. Attached to 1/4 hp active aqua chiller (overkill but got a deal and am in so cal; last years consistent 100+ temps ravaged my outdoor grow and can even make indoor temp regulation difficult) with two 5” and one 4” air stones in main res and one 4” in a 5 gallon top off res (not part of the system until/if I need it) attached to two 15L/minute active aqua air pumps. I wanted to have a bit of a barrier between the ambient temps inside the tent (rest of the room is a/c controlled) and the actual reservoir so I built a base to set the tent sans bottom putting the top of the res at the floor of the tent. This also raises the reservoir off the ground and hoping it will save some back aches once scrog comes into play. This also frees up 16” of vertical space inside tent and although I intend to scrog it should help as a buffer with temps and I won’t have to worry about light distance since plants are at floor level. To keep as much unnecessary heat out of the 4x2 tent the spider farmer light ballast was removed and relocated to outside the tent which I’m glad because during testing the ballast and light are each producing 120 degrees. Half of that is outside the tent allowing the temps inside the tent to stay about around when room temp is about 78 (a/c off but weather is fluctuating) with a small fan at base level and a 6” clip on fan for higher up. Reservoir will be 66-68 at all times thanks to the chiller. For ph management I am going to be using a torus hydro perfect ph (35 gallon). I’m hoping their claims aren’t just hype because they say it removes H+ and OH- ions to allow the ph to maintain 5.8 - 6.2 ph (without any additional buffers). This small fluctuation allows all nutrients to be taken in while a stagnant ph will prevent certain nutrient uptake hence a more complete usage. These are claims among others they made, let’s see if the science is legit. Unfortunately this being my first hydro grow I have no standard to base this off, but if I don’t have to worry about my ph that’s one less worry. Nutrients will be GH flora trio and cal-mag plus hydroguard. Not sure about additional additives, want to keep it pretty basic but suggestions for this nute/strain combo would be appreciated. I was intending on growing wedding cake or venom og but cake was sold out and venom didn’t look great so I ended up coming home with two gelato clones from universal nurseries. I’ve always liked this strain but wanted the cake because I’ve read it’s highly resilient. What I was not expecting was that these would be rooted in neoprene. I’m new to hydro and aside from the research and reading throughout my grows I usually overlooked neoprene. I guess it could be better than the rock wool as it shouldn’t leach and mess with ph? They are surrounded by hydroton and will be hand watered until roots make it to water. Update day 6: I went against my better judgment and initially painted my lid for light leakage. Ended up dumping my entire reservoir two days in because it was full of paint chips (even though it was formulated for plastic it still chipped off in high volume). Used a drill pump from HD, worked well as the intake is a 1/4” pvc tube I could suck up the paint chips and the water, but DO NOT USE to transfer anything but waste water as the output contained grease from the pump! Got a new lid and will just be using panda film for light blockage. Added a small humidifier because rh was in the 30-40 range, now temps and rh are consistently 70 degrees and about 65%. Nutes are 1/4 strength except calimag due likely to stoned math... Plants don’t seem to be minding so I’m not trying to sweat it much. Slight upward drift in ppm and ec as water is taken in or evaporates and ph is slowly swinging in the range torus hydro said it would so that is a success as I have not used any buffers. They claim it is more effective when it can directly interact with a root mass so it seems promising. New growth sprouting all over but no roots have made it out of the net pots. I went with 6” hoping roots will branch laterally exposing move root mass to the air gap once developed. Started noticing slight yellowing of leaves day 4 and some drooping (due to low rh as they perked up after adding humidifier) so I went from 50ml top feed daily to 100ml, also turned light down to 15% and everyone is happy.
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Grow Questions
Gzuscamp
Gzuscampstarted grow question 3 years ago
Ph dropped hard 24 hr after res change @ 60%. Had changed 1 week prior due to high ec + slowly dropping ph and added another air stone. Turned off the air stone for an hour, no change so likely not acid rain situation. Ph up’d, plant never showed signs of being unhappy. Thoughts?
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Hashy
Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
I have had this a few times. I'm not sure what causes it but my theory is all to do with the nutrients. I'm thinking that the nitrogen increases Ph as during flower you use less N. I just let it drift down then PH up when it happens.
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DreamITweek 1
Enjoy growth mate 🦄🍀🤙
Lacrima
Lacrimaweek 3
Happy Growing ! 😊💪
ThePassionForWeed420
ThePassionForWeed420week 5
Buona coltivazione e felice crescita amico 👏 👏
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@@ThePassionForWeed420, thanks, and to you!
Ferenc
Ferencweek 18
Happy Flowering @Gzuscamp
spyder
spyderweek 1
lookin good,,,,,good luck with the grow.....enjoy..
Greenfingers666
Greenfingers666week 13
Nice set up very organized like happy growing Greenfingers666 💎
Gzuscamp
Gzuscamp
@Greenfingers666, showing page not found for that one but I peeked at your other grows. Do you do all autos? I tried some outdoor last year but conditions were harsh. I appreciate the ingenuity of trellis on your pink man! I need to get a second net up so things don’t topple in a couple weeks...
Greenfingers666
Greenfingers666
Gzuscamp
Gzuscamp
@Greenfingers666 thanks, learned quite a bit through this run and settled on a cabinet design for flowering and I’ll turn this into veg/clone tent.
Pietcandwcbucket
Pietcandwcbucketweek 21
Well done enjoy harvy and start all over again.. Yah
Gzuscamp
Gzuscamp
@Pietcandwcbucket, thanks! Next run getting delayed a bit but I’ve got some jack herer seeds from @seedsman in the mail!
Pietcandwcbucket
Pietcandwcbucketweek 18
Great job sofar.. Bring her home..
Gzuscamp
Gzuscamp
@Pietcandwcbucket, thanks! Wish I had fixed the reservoir situation sooner but I’m happy with and better prepared for next round!
ELBICNIVNI
ELBICNIVNIweek 14
lookin' good bro!✌️👊
Gzuscamp
Gzuscamp
@ELBICNIVNI, thanks! Already looking forward to the next grow haha
CrazyHorse
CrazyHorseweek 19
Beautiful mate :D
Liljw_us
Liljw_usweek 18
Great look grow. Thanks for sharing looks dank! Happy harvest ☮️
Legiongrower
Legiongrowerweek 15
Nice
TeknoRanger
TeknoRangerweek 14
Good luck in growing and enjoy development 👍 If you want to go through my diary and leave your support🙌👊
AutoCrazy
AutoCrazyweek 19
Very nice!! I can’t wait to run DWC for my first time for my next indoor run.
Gzuscamp
Gzuscamp
@AutoCrazy, do it. They are a better option than what I am using (HDX 17gal). It bows, the lid is very light permeable and has grooves for moisture to hide. A cooler is insulated (I have a way overpowered chiller but still a benefit if it runs less!), is intended to hold water and has a tight sealing lid. I’ve suffered excessive evaporation in the tote due to a lack of seal and large surface area of water to evaporate. I’ve been working on what is essentially an rdwc trough that minimizes surface area of the water, uses no pvc tubing (which is safe, to a degree, but I want to avoid) and doesn’t consist of multiple containers with potentially leaking bulkheads which will be made made of fiberglassed plywood with pond armor as it is aquarium safe. I like the 2’ deep by whatever setups to flush against a wall for less footprint so it’s hard to get the space between plants needed without having massive surface area to evaporate. Good luck and get creative, you may discover something that works great.
AutoCrazy
AutoCrazy
@Gzuscamp, I am going to be building my own setup using a cooler and all sorts of other gizzmos that I found on the web. It will be original but the “science” behind it is sound lol.
AutoCrazy
AutoCrazy
@Gzuscamp, yeah, like anything it takes time to dial it in. I am sure in the long run it will prove easier then soil. That’s my hope.
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Bembeto
Bembetoweek 17
Veo un dream set up que me encanta! Mucha suerte con el grow