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masterofsmeagol3 years ago
9/26 This fucking sucks. Site won't let me upload pictures. Flood warning in effect. I believe this is the fifth day of rain. Not trickles. Sheet rain and high winds. My dream catchers have been taking this like a champ. Ice cream cake was totally sideways for awhile despite vertical trellis. I came down this morning to branches bent at 90ยฐ angles. I could've taken them but if I make it through this rain today it's supposed to stop tonight. Then I'll have a week of good weather. Buds are exploding. Even the ice cream cake. That will need more time but I'm getting close with the others. They are never out of sight. I'm surprised they've held up so well so far. I made my decision it would be stupid to alter it now, seeing how the storm is ending. I was going to spray k bicarb but I'll wait until after this rain.UPDATE: Went back over and the garden was flooded. I needed to put one grow bag on top of another as one plant was in six inches of water. I drained it and added supports and pulled off any dead leaves. I tried taking a video but it was raining so hard it stopped after 7 secs. Luckily my dreamcatchers are strong AF. Took to little ones and put them under the barn under a light. It's FINALLY stopped raining. After I smoke I gotta go back over and shake buds again and check for rot. Luckily nothing was broken but it was hanging right down. Fucking sucks. Spent like two hours in sheet rain. UPDATE: Stopped raining. I went over and continued to defoliate and cut little bits of rot from the interior. Sprayed a gallon of potassium bicarbonate and dawn on ever spot of rot I could find. I've been to the patch multiple times today. Found a few earwigs. I think I've found my problem. Late stage leaf septoria with earwigs eating the rotting plant matter. Fucking sucks but at least I have an idea. Can't upload pics and phone wouldn't even work in the rain. One 7 second video.
9/27 The extra work I've been putting in has certainly helped. I got in touch with a company who will do any type of extraction I want for $200 a lb. Fucking awesome. My cousin got 250 grams love rosin last year with this same company. I am sore. I checked trichs but I'm not seeing much Amber yet. Buds are gaining density fast. At least now that I have an idea what my problem is I can address it. Plants showed signs of pm after drying out. I did a k bicarb spray and this morning there isn't a spot. I need to take care of what's hanging so that's the plan today.
9/28 I think I made the right decision.my plants are looking good. Not where I want them but it's getting close. I checked the trichs this morning. Under 24 hour surveillance till harvest. Well it has been but now I stay up every nigh watching the cctv. Went down in the middle of the night to check for nocturnal bugs. Didn't find any. I've been defoliating the yellow septoria leaves. I went through every plant and cut out any rot and removed andy sugar leaves that started to turn brown. This and the k bicarb seem to help. I think that Leaf septoria has dwarfed the growth of the smaller dream catcher. Buds don't seem to be growing much more. Even my ICC has buds almost the size of the little one. The other dreamcatcher will probably be an elbow plant. The ice cream cake has beefed up incredibly and is covered in trich's. I'm super excited but I'm cautious at the same time. I hate that fucking dog but it's an added layer of security. Soon I'll do the harvest report for DJ short blueberry.
9/29 Trich's are changing fast. Haven't been watering lately do to all the rain. Plants are real real close. Up all night watching. Dog flipped out at 4am but no one was there. I want to wait until I have a little more Amber but I'm super excited. I may end up taking some tops. May end up doing a k bicarb spray today. Haven't decided yet. I'll update as I go. I've been making head way trimming the blueberry.
9/30. Things are looking beautiful. The smell at the garden is amazing. Lots of hard work left. Plants do have septoria and slight pm so I may do a bud wash. I cut a branch from each plant. I think I'm at the point of diminishing returns. Every wet night mold and critters take more and the chances of some idiot coming to try and take my shit increases. I may end up harvesting a little earlier. I'd lie to wait but the trichs look pretty good to me. Still doing all the maintenance required. I am extremely proud of this grow. I fought everything this year. Started with mites and thrips. Powder mildew came with them too. Now I've faced every pest or disease this year. At least it seems that way. I've seen the horror stories on my local Facebook thread. Leave your comments and let me know what you think about trichome stages and whether it would be ok to harvest.
10/1 Rained last night. Defoliated and removed some rot. I'll update later in the day.
10/2 Rained last night and I have A LOT to update which I will later.
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Can anyone help identify the issue on this leaf. Dreamcatcher is the strain and I can tell they were a reveg. It was root bound and I thought it was an issue with the roots. After transplant outside and sprayed with my IPM the plant has recovered but still has a few like this?
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Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
Nice plants in the background by the way. To me it looks like a slight magnesium problem.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
I found what I believe is thrips. Anyone have experience dealing with them? I plan to use either LCPT, Dr Zymes, or Spinosid. That and pyrethrum is what I have on hand. I am also battling WPM and was planning to preventative BT. Looking for advice and what product to use. TIA
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hey friend,
Thrips aren't the worst so thats good. I know they love onions, and some other outdoor plants so be mindful of carrier plants nearby.
My best success with killing them dead and gone, was a combination of first using a spinosad spray at dusk, and a dr bonners/water spray bottle.
The soap spray is perfect in health to the earth and plants and living things so be free and liberal with it. Dr Bonners is Castille soap so in my opinion safer and more effective than when I've used dawn dish soap. But any soap will do.
Good luck and do a few applications a few days apart until you see lower numbers.
Happy growing
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hey does anyone know how to upload edited pics? I have stalk pics but my tags are showing and I can't upload the edited pic.
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Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
Try naming the file/picture a different name to the one that refuses to upload.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
I recently increased grow big to 2tbsp/ gal (from 1) and feeding to every 3 days instead of 5. I also sprayed LCPT. It has been 90's and I have to water plants twice a day. Could either of these contribute to the few yellow leaves on interior low and middle? Should I switch back?
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lefthandedJanswered grow question 3 years ago
Gotta agree with InspireMe, sounds like a little nutrient lockout. Only guessing that because I have the same issue, to a much lesser degree, and my medium is at an irritating 7.0 with some spikes. The plants I have showing yellow leaves just Ph'd the other day at 7.2, the ones without yellow still Ph'd at 7 even.
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InspireMeanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hey mate,
I had a look through your diary and I think it could be related to your ph. I noticed that you ate running at 7.4. I'd try and bring that down to anywhere between 6.0 and 6.8. They may be struggling to uptake the nutrients they need.
Hope this helps ๐
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Interior lower and middle leaves turn yellow and die. Seems like nitrogen def. PH measured w soil meter read 7.3, 7.4, 7.5 at the highest. Plants are huge. Have the just used up soil nutes and I need to increase feeding or is it PH and how to fix. Water pH is good. Plz see diary
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Rap_a_capanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hi Smeagol, looking at your diary I can see only a gorgeous weed garden. I'm an outdoor grower too and little by little I've learned to don't care about falling of lower/middle canopy expecially if the plants look healthy and with the right tone of green. Looking closely I've noticed some leaves infested by mites. Sometimes lower leaves yellowish and fall because of a combination of factors like age, nutes deficiencies (is not your case), high humidity near the soil and parasites. In any case with senescence bottom leaves will fall anyway. Be relaxed and control the critters around. Cheers Bro
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
I try to add a new week and it will allow me to do so but it won't save. When I try to save it says "something went wrong". I've deleted and tried four times to reload and re-type everything. Has anyone else had problems using this platform? I'll go back to paper if this keeps up
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MrStinkyanswered grow question 3 years ago
We've been having issues with posts and questions recently (uploading pics especially), hopefully they get it fixed soon cause the app and community is awesome.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
When do you outdoor growers that use liquid nutrients start switching to flowering nutes? I typically wait until after the stretch and slowly introduce my tiger bloom until they are on a flower feeding schedule. I'd be interested to hear how others do it. Especially with Fox Farm
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Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
For the last 25+ years, I have been giving/continuing with grow nutrients until there are small budlets formed, before switching to half grow and half bloom for the next 2-3 weeks, before changing to just pure bloom nutrients through until maturity. This seems to produce the biggest blooms on plants that do not exhaust themselves and end up canabalizing themselves to a sickly yellow colour.
I will also give one dose of half grow and half bloom about half way through the "just bloom nutrient" phase as a plant booster, but probably one third grow nutes and two thirds bloom nutes would be a more accurate description.
Cannabis does still need a good supply of nitrogen in early flower and switching to bloom nutrients when the first pistils appear will/can lead to a reduced yield and certainly reduced health in late flower, and seems to be a common rookie mistake amongst a lot of growers on this forum.
The routine I use is the evolution of my experiences growing outdoors for 35+ years and the result of much research and experimentation.
Others may disagree, but it works outstandingly well for me and in my situation.
Hope this helps, Organoman.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Has anyone dealt with earwigs? I noticed some small damage on the top of a plant bud site Made the trap didn't work. Are they usually a problem if around? I'm sure they are under the wood cage but I'm hesitant to use borax as my plants grow through the bags into the ground
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masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 2 years ago
Just so everyone sees this I'm answering my own question. Ear Wigs are horrible! They kill all cannabis pests and LOVE aphids. However after that they will ear your buds from the bottom up or chew the stem on a bud disconnecting it from the branch. They overwinter and are prehistoric. If you've built your a population move the grow.
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Hempy_The_Kidanswered grow question 3 years ago
They Normally eat rotting plant matter but they will eat fresh plants as well. I would exterminate.
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
I have an extra plant outside my grow cage and it has leaf septoria. It was neglected to begin with. Is it worth treating with copper based fungicide or should it be culled. I have no experience with this. Someone please help.
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Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
Whether it is worth treating and rescuing back to health is something only you can decide, but if it does have leaf Septoria, (or possibly powdery mildew) moving it far, far away from your other plants would be my advice to you.
If it is growing in the ground directly and can not be moved, and if she does not interest you that much, then yes, cull it and throw it in the garbage and make sure it is as far away from your other plants as possible.
Cheers, Organoman.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Anybody here grow outdoors in soil and use fox farm products? I was wondering if someone could approximate how much 2tbsp big bloom, 2 grow big, 1 tiger bloom would lower a neutral 7.0 gallon of water. I have drops but it's hard to see after adding bb. No meter. No money 4 one.
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Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
Mmm real hard to say bro but Iโve noticed that Tiger bloom is quite acidic and drops the pH significantly.
I wish I could give you a guess of where it would be but it depends on your water so much.
Hereโs what Iโd do is check your ph with your drops or whatever without the BB cuz it should barely effect your pH compared to the other ones, then add BB after you have a decent idea of where it is.
Anecdotally, my pH was usually pretty low after my FF feeds were mixed up.. 5.5-6.0 so a lot of time Iโd be adding a few mLs of pH up.
Feel free to PM me if youโve got any other questions about it.. Iโm using GH for my outdoor grow now but I use FF for a lot of my indoor flowering plants.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Can inch worms do this type of damage? Destroying bud sites and the little sugar leaves brown and die? I was thinking it was earwigs but someone mentioned inch worms (which I had found) so I treated with BT. No tops damaged it's like they ๐ญ branches for me. Ideas on culprit/tx?
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masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 2 years ago
What was eating all the budsites were the earwigs. I'm mitigating that problem this year by placing my cage on tar. Try going through my sand moat and then tunnel through the tar you prehistoric bastards! I hope that borax did you some good!
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rhodes68answered grow question 3 years ago
rabbits or other vermin, they only eat what they can reach, if you lucky
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
Losing a bunch of yellow leaves during early flower. I have WPM but it wouldn't progress like this would it? I think I may have just been underfeeding or my pH is off. What do you guys think?
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Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
Yes I have noticed this happens more in outdoor grows and itโs quite normal and not as concerning as if you had yellowing dying leaves in and indoor set up. Several of my outdoor plants have started with some yellowing a dropping a few leaves also.
I donโt believe WPM would have anything to do with this..
I also realized I was likely underfeeding a bit as you mentioned.. Iโve got some big girls outside and wasnโt used to their nutrient needs. That said I wouldnโt go slamming it with nitrogen - seeing ass your flowering has begun. Maybe up your source of N for one feed then go back to your normal feeding schedule!
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 3 years ago
I have a strain that some nocturnal insect (ear wigs) I think that have been STRIPPING lower interior branches. Last night I almost cut a branch that looked done. This morning I showed up and the bottom half of that branch was stripped. Try more methods or take a week early. Tia
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Rap_a_capanswered grow question 3 years ago
Mate, sorry for this issue. I got the same with clematis. I use to spray on these bastards a solution of pure alcohol and water (1/3) and it works fine.
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Hempy_The_Kidanswered grow question 3 years ago
You could make a solution of dishsoap and water and spray them off your plants, (use a pump spray for better pressure). I grow basil close to my plants which seems to keep most insects away.
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 133 years ago
SegaYGriegacommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, thank you
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@SegaYGriega, Thank you for your compliments! You are correct. You get what you put in. I am very lucky to live where I do. I will do my best to document and share my experiences and try to share what knowledge I have with the community. Thank you again for kind words.
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SegaYGriegacommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, bro you have a beautiful garden where you grow big and small flowers (our beloved๐) your flowers look great because you work a lot on it !!! keep up the good work !!! ๐๐คand share your successes with us. P.S. SegaYGriega
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 173 years ago
@Rap_a_cap thank you so much for looking through my diary and taking the time to answer my question. Thank you for the compliment as well. You made my morning. I have an anxiety disorder so I worry more than I should sometimes. You helped put my mind at ease. My IPM has been slacking due to external circumstances but I'll start my routine back up and hopefully be right as rain! I love this site and I'm grateful for all the help I've received. Happy growing my friend!
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Rap_a_capcommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, Bro, you're welcome. I think the biggest enemy of plants is the grower himself. The anxiety, the rush of the harvest, made us make huge mistakes. We think that stuffing plants with fertilizer to the point of burning them can give us pounds yields with a 5 gallons pot. After 25 years of indoor growing and expecially after the results of last year's run I can definitely say that outdoor stuff is another planet. Nursed with balance and enough sun weed is one the most powerful plant on the earth. The most of growing questions here are concerned about burned/intoxicated plants and very often these poor plants are small seedling....WTH. I'm anxious too, an advice to you, avoid super high THC strains or let the buds mature more, THC worses anxiety. This year I've had lots of anxiety seizures smoking Royal Gorilla and Pineapple Kush. Luckily Special Kush saved me ๐
Cheers Bro ๐๐๐
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SegaYGriegacommentedweek 133 years ago
Great job, looks great !!! I wish you a great harvest๐ watch my reports and leave your opinion in the comments๐
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@SegaYGriega, I will do my best. Best of luck to you!
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Maryjane23commentedweek 13 years ago
Like your job!!! Happy growing!!! โ๏ธโ๏ธ
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Maryjane23, thank you miss maryjane
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spydercommentedweek 133 years ago
good luck with the grow......enjoy.
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@spyder, thanks man.
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DreamITcommentedweek 13 years ago
Enjoy growth mate ๐ฆ๐๐
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@DreamIT, you as well!
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Ferenccommentedweek 163 years ago
What a garden mate. Followed @masterofsmeagol
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Ferenc, Thank you my friend!
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Experimentgreencommentedweek 143 years ago
I have a very good closeup of a thrip if you need for comparison. I will agree this bug does seem a bit bigger and longer legs and antenna.
But the spinosad and soap spray will work on basically any soft bodied insect.
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Experimentgreen, that's the problem I have with identification. The different species let alone the life stage of the insect can sometimes make it difficult to properly identify. Some things like spider mites are much easier. I can't find the tagged picture but I'm just getting the hang of this platform. Thanks for the help bud. I certainly appreciate any and all advice/knowledge I can get. Like you said above the treatments I mentioned should take care of pretty much most problem pests.
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Experimentgreencommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, I won't say it isn't a thrip...but it definitely does look a bit bigger and slightly different leg/antenna lengths. But there are more than one kind of thrip after all. That close up I tagged you in, is 100% a thrip, one kind of thrip that is.
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Experimentgreen, Strange. Those photos have been up for like two weeks on six Facebook cannabis growing websites with lots of advice and no one other than you and the other guy on here mentioned it being anything but a thrip. I would be interested in seeing another photo though. Even Google lens picked it up being a thrip. I would definitely like to know if I have a different problem.
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Ferenccommentedweek 233 years ago
Long long journey.... really nice @masterofsmeagol
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Ferenc, super long journey but it's well worth it in the end. Patience is key! Can't wait till Croptober!
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ThePassionForWeed420commentedweek 143 years ago
Buona coltivazione e felice crescita amico ๐ ๐
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@@ThePassionForWeed420, Thank you my friend. Good luck to you!
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Rock_n_Roll_Randycommentedweek 183 years ago
Looks like you will need a bigger spot soon bro๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ค๐ค those will be monsters. Good job
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Rock_n_Roll_Randycommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, haha she called it bro. Gotta listen to the wife my friend lol๐คฃ๐ค๐ค
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, lol that's exactly what my girlfriend said!
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Rock_n_Roll_Randycommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, haha atleast it's a good thing bro. It will look like 1 giant plant soon๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ค๐ค
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Rock_n_Roll_Randycommentedweek 153 years ago
Looking good bro ๐ dj short blue.... nice old school stuff my friend. Enjoy it and have fun
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, Northeast U.S.
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Rock_n_Roll_Randycommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, sweet bro what country are you in?
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, thanks bud! It does great in this climate! Very resilient!
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lefthandedJcommentedweek 203 years ago
Man your garden looks good!! Looking forward to following your grow, should be killer!
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lefthandedJcommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol,
ditto! I was tryin to figure out how, but guess that's not in the cards just yet. Maine's on the map-- it just doesn't know it yet!
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@lefthandedJ, Thanks man! Back at ya! Good to find someone in my climate to talk shop with. I hope this has a private message feature. I'll look and if it does I'll message you. Take care!
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TenderBudscommentedweek 183 years ago
Wow, awesome garden! ๐๐๐ป
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@@TenderBuds Thank you! Happy growing!
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SegaYGriegacommentedweek 283 years ago
Great result๐great harvest๐๐
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SegaYGriegacommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol,this is cool๐๐ค๐
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@SegaYGriega, 1 Down 11 more to go lol. I've got my hands full for sure.
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Rap_a_capcommentedweek 213 years ago
Hey Mate, looking good but I still can see (yep, I can see even through blurry pics ๐) mites infestation a little here a little there. I think it's time to prepare some kind of roof to protect them from the rain. For now there is no problem but you can't afford to get plants wet in flowering. I've used for my structure 0.2 mm PVC ultraclean tape (55 ftยฒ for less than 20 bucks). Good luck
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Rap_a_capcommented3 years ago
@masterofsmeagol, sorry for your troubles I hope things and health will getting better Bro. I know you are doing it in the better way, keep it up and "may the weather be with you" ๐๐๐
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Rap_a_cap, I just got my IPM up and running again. Death in the family and my wife having a stroke resulted in my IPM slacking. Treatment again tonight. This is outdoor bud so I definitely won't be putting a roof on man. Thanks for the suggestion but my cage is just to keep animals out, slow down people and comply with local laws. I have thick rubber I can throw over the structure but I only use it for sheet rain and hail. I've used it once and that was only for hail. I was in a big hurry this morning and the camera didn't seem to function properly but I wanted to stay consistent with my diary. I'll check again but I thought my pictures usually come out pretty good.
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iHateSativacommentedweek 303 years ago
Happy Harvest
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@iHateSativa, Thanks man. Trim jail is a bitch
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DevilsBudcommentedweek 293 years ago
Good luck with your outdoor grow hopefully you get better weather
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@DevilsBud, Went there this afternoon and six inches of water was on one side. I drained it though and propped up and added supports. Luckily it's stopped raining and supposed to be nice for a while. Luckily I grabbed my blueberry's before the storms. Got some elbows hanging. Humidity is a bitch though.
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Hazemaster420commentedweek 233 years ago
Grow that shit ,grow that shit, grow that shit! They look great, shits about to pop off! Your place is gonna be terp city real soon! The smells in the air! Jus love it!
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Hazemaster420, Thanks man! Walking down to the cage is like getting smacked in the face with a huge cola. Such wonderful fragrances.
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Rock_n_Roll_Randycommentedweek 213 years ago
Wow bro they are getting fuckin huge๐๐๐๐ช good job buddy
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, thanks man! Bout 8 or 9 ft for the big ones (including the bag) right now. The fence is ten feet and some spots are over it! I am beyond stoked!
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