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gottagrowsometime gottagrowsometime
2 years ago
Welcome to my MilkyWay F1 Auto Diary, Untopped VS topped. Results are in. Days 71-82 ripening 0-13 week 11&12 Went well. She did bulk up a tad. But not much. They spent most their lives under a 100w. But, the bud is really dense all over. No larf, at all. Its a really good quality of bud I'm getting from both phenos. As far as ToppedVsUntopped well, that result is in. With a seeds used from the same pack (same parent) making true F1s as they need to be from the same batch. It why we all got different phenos, and those who ran more than 1, from their seeds, the phenos are very close. One of mine had more of a fade and looks more purple. Both smell very lovely & fruity. Nice trichome production with very dense but, rather small buds if I do say so. But the grade itself is very high. (As grade is not rated on size) overall both turned out very similar. Even fade wise, they've both developed a lovely colour finishing under high co2 environment with the SE5000 really has brought out a lot of fade i normally do not get. look at the start. It was only a few days under this light and the past 14 days they've both popped. I will also say. A lot of their life was spent under a 12-12 (3/5s of flowering). Topped VS Untopped pheno 2 & 1 Are very similar as I've stated this area will be filt in with harvest comments. Bud smell. How the dry went. And after a weeks cure. I'll rate it. So watch this space. These 2 phenos have been on just water for 10 days. I did a quick run off test. Got back 145ppm my tap is 110. So, they're good to go. Trichome wise. 95% cloudy 30-35% amber. (Hard to see, I'll try get pics with my scope) but, as you see. Both are fully ripened. Anymore and its just bud deg. Both plants leaves are showing end of life. Some are dying. (I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE LEAVES AND SEEN THEY'VE BEEN DEAINED, ITS NOT BR) Lights The SE5000 was used for the Ripening phase. With high temps and co2 i pushed my boundaries and got a lovely fade reaction from doing so. How I know its down to this light as I've put my Runtz under it. And as soon as I did. It developed fade. My Frosted G even started getting light purple on its sides. The temp in tent has been pushed to 31-33c (that's not leaf temp as I've fans blowing on my plants, and that lowers surface temps by a few degrees.) They've been on 17hrs of high powered light. At 25-30cm id no choice. My temps are mad high this time of year. Harvested Both plants are been pult they're getting their last few hrs. You'll then see the last few pics in a few hrs. I'll get bud shots later, smoke reviews and then to be fair. I'll then mark it by the GD rating system. As I do with all my strains. (So I've 2-3 wk delay in my diaries as they're Harvested, mostly) both plants I'll try push them as far as I can through the drying process whole. But, as I'm dealing with high temps. Lower RH and a fastercl dry is pref to a longer dry in hot conditions might not make sense, but 30+ hot weather harvests, I've got this down. Mind you only this round all my other hot harvests some took a few weeks to rid the hay smell. This avoids it and locks in potency. Most of the drying is done by leaving the plant in the substrate just before the plant goes for itself for fluids. 4-5 day dry as opposed to 5-6 day dry with weed that loses half its stenght. (dry harvesting look it up) Thanks to James from RQS, although I know everyone and their sister got the offer for these seeds I am defo going to be trying more from RQS, if it's buying. I'll get round to it, and depending on the quality of smoke it might be soon. If its a real nice auto, I'd love to try a fem of theirs for my winter crop in October. But, that'll depend. I've lots I want to buy & try.. and when favs are found. I'll invest. I would like to thank everybody for the activity this diary has gotten. Its possibly one of my most active diaries I've done without a harvest. And that's in no short means down to all the views and likes from you guys. And for sure I will fully complete it, with results on the smoke Quality from both phenos, if it varies, but, results thus far, structure wise they're shockingly similar. Scary so. Topping has very little affect to the structure. She grew a main cola. But both phenos, turned puples I will say the topped one was a more troublesome plant. Maybe that had a role onin its morphology. And maybe it'll affect the bud also. The topped was more demanding nutrient wise, and drank more. Maybe to support a more even bud load. (I've yet to do a through inspection, but on the VS front, it's kinda in the air about quality, structure wise, it had very little difference. Look for yourself at the heights are 3-4cm dif) lots still to come. And I'll update it soon with more results. Again, thanks so much for the support, likes, comments and how active it is, an unfinished diary moving to my home page. 1st for me. So thank you. Also to my light sponsors who played a part in this grow. Although both phenos owe their bud quality to 2 x 100 watts SF-1000 (SE5000 was used for ripening lovely fade) and I used a P1000, they shared even light distribution in the end for the most part. So, thanks to Bella for the upgrade. I'm sure when I run an RQS strain again, this time I'll know only have the fade to show, but the bud size too. Thanks again my Friends. Updates pending as of 6th June. Edit June 7th Both plants are hung whole and drying 24hrs. I don't like how fast they're moving. The buds are already soft. Should still be hard at this stage only 30hrs in. They'll harden up in the cure no doubt. Let's just hope they don't shrink too much. Will give daily updates
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Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblycommentedweek 02 years ago
Good to see an untrained grow
resimax
resimaxcommentedweek 22 years ago
Looking great!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@@resimax, thanks pal
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdaviruscommentedweek 02 years ago
I'll be watching ๐Ÿ‘€ to see if you come to the same conclusion that I have on top n no top Good luck on your new babies ๐Ÿ‘ถ ๐Ÿ’œ ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Cyrusdavirus, let's see. Lol. I've had mixed results.
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpscommentedweek 02 years ago
Good luck with your grow ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฒ
Bread_n_Buds
Bread_n_Budscommentedweek 12 years ago
I dont understood so good if are all autoflowering this RQS F1, good luck this will be a super grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Breadandbuds, Yeah, I mes them also. As my understanding where F1s were FF photos. They sent me something explaining what they mean. It's just a cross of less strains, even a more stable pheno. I think. I read it couple wks back lol, and my mind blank
Xpie77
Xpie77commentedweek 12 years ago
Happy Grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Xpie77, thanks :-)
kohlrabi
kohlrabicommentedweek 02 years ago
Very curious to see your results! Good luck and enjoy the grow! ๐Ÿฅฆ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@kohlrabi, me to. Looking forward to getting some good results. Am gonna put them in 5gal pots for best results this wk. Thanks for dropping by.
love_2_grow
love_2_growcommentedweek 02 years ago
This sounds like a fun experiment, and it will be interesting to follow along. Happy Growing, Buddy! ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
Herbz_Unkraut
Herbz_Unkrautcommentedweek 02 years ago
good luck with this grow! ๐ŸŒฟ
Aldo90
Aldo90commentedweek 42 years ago
My next thing is getting a veg tent sorted. I've got my old 4x4 still I've also got a ts1000 I just need the space lol. Only thing I'd need to buy to set it up would be a wee extractor.
Aldo90
Aldo90commented2 years ago
@gottagrowsometime, that's my main reason for making the switch to fems this run, I've done auto runs I've been happy with got what i thought was a decent yield, but then I'd end up getting an ounce each from 3 that took 14 weeks also lol. I've germinated, gg sherbet, gg cookies and tropicana cookies, all 3 are the fast buds FFs. See how this one goes. I'll be adding the uv/ir light in soon also, just need to buy one first lol.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Aldo90, yeah, a veggie tent is a must. In saying that. Soon, she'll be rocking a 300w or I might just add another 100w as my 100cm2 is flowering fems and is only running at barely 14hrs a day. Frosted G is already flipped. The p1000 puts out enough ppfd to finish her. But, not for the whole tent I'll need 2. Have to think on it. Will the yield of 4 autos be enough for the cost of running it. I'm not sure.
Sweetie420
Sweetie420commentedweek 02 years ago
Wish You Best ๐Ÿ™‚ i will follow this Milkyway ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ My Medusa F1 and Apollo F1 soon go to the glass ๐Ÿ˜œ
Sweetie420
Sweetie420commented2 years ago
@gottagrowsometime, yeah soon i will make a diaries. ๐Ÿ˜‰
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Sweetie420, lovely stuff. I'll check em out when they up. Good luck
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubblecommentedweek 42 years ago
Death to the gnats
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@NegotiatedBubble, caught about 15 on just 1. Thing is, did i catch them before they got a chance to lay any eggs. I'll know in a few days if my 4e investment paid off.
Bread_n_Buds
Bread_n_Budscommentedweek 22 years ago
Is a good test iam doing to on Purple Pung OG, is fresh and good to know to understand how a plant respond to the topping and let know to other grower. If I were a breeder I would insert this indication on the response to the topping in the data sheet
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Breadandbuds, I fully agree with you. As some breeders autos do really well when topped, have to get it in and hopefully you'll get min another 2 weeks of veg. Fastbuds take well to a top. But 3 times I done it to dutch-passion and they turned out small. Look forward to seeing the results. I just topped pheno 1, have to get her uppoted to her next pot. Have done it in a way, I can push my 2 hands down and cup it to pull it up. Hopefully won't be too much stress. Both will have to go through this. Gonna make it as even as I can. I know you can't get results , well results you can say for sure it'll work everytime. But, as these are meant to give a more equally grown crop. They are more or less in at the same stage, pheno 1&2 when you look bk over the days, they more or less match.
mcflow
mcflowcommentedweek 22 years ago
Looks great! Good luck growing๐Ÿ€
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@mcflow, cheers buddy
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowescommentedweek 02 years ago
Good luck with your gro! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
StarLorr
StarLorrcommentedweek 62 years ago
Beautiful plant
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@StarLorr, cheers pal
Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblycommentedweek 52 years ago
Nice diary my dude
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Ned_Schneebly, cheers mate. Thx for stopping by
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpscommentedweek 42 years ago
Looking good ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฒ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@Ju_Bps, thx m8
DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowercommentedweek 32 years ago
looking very good :)
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented2 years ago
@DeepWaterGrower, cheers buddy.
Bmolly
Bmollycommentedweek 122 years ago
Your passion for gardening is contagious. Your plants reflect the love and care you pour into them. Keep nurturing and sharing your green journey, inspiring others along the way. ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’ช