Welcome to my MilkyWay F1 Auto Diary, Untopped VS topped. Results are in.
Days 71-82 ripening 0-13 week 11&12
Went well. She did bulk up a tad. But not much. They spent most their lives under a 100w. But, the bud is really dense all over. No larf, at all. Its a really good quality of bud I'm getting from both phenos. As far as ToppedVsUntopped well, that result is in. With a seeds used from the same pack (same parent) making true F1s as they need to be from the same batch. It why we all got different phenos, and those who ran more than 1, from their seeds, the phenos are very close. One of mine had more of a fade and looks more purple. Both smell very lovely & fruity. Nice trichome production with very dense but, rather small buds if I do say so. But the grade itself is very high. (As grade is not rated on size) overall both turned out very similar. Even fade wise, they've both developed a lovely colour finishing under high co2 environment with the SE5000 really has brought out a lot of fade i normally do not get. look at the start. It was only a few days under this light and the past 14 days they've both popped. I will also say. A lot of their life was spent under a 12-12 (3/5s of flowering).
Topped VS Untopped pheno 2 & 1
Are very similar as I've stated this area will be filt in with harvest comments. Bud smell. How the dry went. And after a weeks cure. I'll rate it. So watch this space. These 2 phenos have been on just water for 10 days. I did a quick run off test. Got back 145ppm my tap is 110. So, they're good to go. Trichome wise. 95% cloudy 30-35% amber. (Hard to see, I'll try get pics with my scope) but, as you see. Both are fully ripened. Anymore and its just bud deg. Both plants leaves are showing end of life. Some are dying. (I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE LEAVES AND SEEN THEY'VE BEEN DEAINED, ITS NOT BR)
Lights
The SE5000 was used for the Ripening phase. With high temps and co2 i pushed my boundaries and got a lovely fade reaction from doing so. How I know its down to this light as I've put my Runtz under it. And as soon as I did. It developed fade. My Frosted G even started getting light purple on its sides. The temp in tent has been pushed to 31-33c (that's not leaf temp as I've fans blowing on my plants, and that lowers surface temps by a few degrees.) They've been on 17hrs of high powered light. At 25-30cm id no choice. My temps are mad high this time of year.
Harvested
Both plants are been pult they're getting their last few hrs. You'll then see the last few pics in a few hrs. I'll get bud shots later, smoke reviews and then to be fair. I'll then mark it by the GD rating system. As I do with all my strains. (So I've 2-3 wk delay in my diaries as they're Harvested, mostly) both plants I'll try push them as far as I can through the drying process whole. But, as I'm dealing with high temps. Lower RH and a fastercl dry is pref to a longer dry in hot conditions might not make sense, but 30+ hot weather harvests, I've got this down. Mind you only this round all my other hot harvests some took a few weeks to rid the hay smell. This avoids it and locks in potency. Most of the drying is done by leaving the plant in the substrate just before the plant goes for itself for fluids. 4-5 day dry as opposed to 5-6 day dry with weed that loses half its stenght. (dry harvesting look it up)
Thanks to James from RQS, although I know everyone and their sister got the offer for these seeds I am defo going to be trying more from RQS, if it's buying. I'll get round to it, and depending on the quality of smoke it might be soon. If its a real nice auto, I'd love to try a fem of theirs for my winter crop in October. But, that'll depend. I've lots I want to buy & try.. and when favs are found. I'll invest.
I would like to thank everybody for the activity this diary has gotten. Its possibly one of my most active diaries I've done without a harvest. And that's in no short means down to all the views and likes from you guys. And for sure I will fully complete it, with results on the smoke Quality from both phenos, if it varies, but, results thus far, structure wise they're shockingly similar. Scary so. Topping has very little affect to the structure. She grew a main cola. But both phenos, turned puples I will say the topped one was a more troublesome plant. Maybe that had a role onin its morphology. And maybe it'll affect the bud also. The topped was more demanding nutrient wise, and drank more. Maybe to support a more even bud load. (I've yet to do a through inspection, but on the VS front, it's kinda in the air about quality, structure wise, it had very little difference. Look for yourself at the heights are 3-4cm dif) lots still to come. And I'll update it soon with more results. Again, thanks so much for the support, likes, comments and how active it is, an unfinished diary moving to my home page. 1st for me. So thank you.
Also to my light sponsors who played a part in this grow. Although both phenos owe their bud quality to 2 x 100 watts SF-1000 (SE5000 was used for ripening lovely fade) and I used a P1000, they shared even light distribution in the end for the most part. So, thanks to Bella for the upgrade. I'm sure when I run an RQS strain again, this time I'll know only have the fade to show, but the bud size too.
Thanks again my Friends. Updates pending as of 6th June.
Edit
June 7th
Both plants are hung whole and drying 24hrs. I don't like how fast they're moving. The buds are already soft. Should still be hard at this stage only 30hrs in. They'll harden up in the cure no doubt. Let's just hope they don't shrink too much. Will give daily updates
@Breadandbuds, Yeah, I mes them also. As my understanding where F1s were FF photos. They sent me something explaining what they mean. It's just a cross of less strains, even a more stable pheno. I think. I read it couple wks back lol, and my mind blank
My next thing is getting a veg tent sorted. I've got my old 4x4 still I've also got a ts1000 I just need the space lol. Only thing I'd need to buy to set it up would be a wee extractor.
@gottagrowsometime, that's my main reason for making the switch to fems this run, I've done auto runs I've been happy with got what i thought was a decent yield, but then I'd end up getting an ounce each from 3 that took 14 weeks also lol. I've germinated, gg sherbet, gg cookies and tropicana cookies, all 3 are the fast buds FFs. See how this one goes. I'll be adding the uv/ir light in soon also, just need to buy one first lol.
@Aldo90, yeah, a veggie tent is a must. In saying that. Soon, she'll be rocking a 300w or I might just add another 100w as my 100cm2 is flowering fems and is only running at barely 14hrs a day. Frosted G is already flipped. The p1000 puts out enough ppfd to finish her. But, not for the whole tent I'll need 2. Have to think on it. Will the yield of 4 autos be enough for the cost of running it. I'm not sure.
@NegotiatedBubble, caught about 15 on just 1. Thing is, did i catch them before they got a chance to lay any eggs. I'll know in a few days if my 4e investment paid off.
Is a good test iam doing to on Purple Pung OG, is fresh and good to know to understand how a plant respond to the topping and let know to other grower. If I were a breeder I would insert this indication on the response to the topping in the data sheet
@Breadandbuds, I fully agree with you. As some breeders autos do really well when topped, have to get it in and hopefully you'll get min another 2 weeks of veg. Fastbuds take well to a top. But 3 times I done it to dutch-passion and they turned out small.
Look forward to seeing the results. I just topped pheno 1, have to get her uppoted to her next pot. Have done it in a way, I can push my 2 hands down and cup it to pull it up. Hopefully won't be too much stress. Both will have to go through this. Gonna make it as even as I can. I know you can't get results , well results you can say for sure it'll work everytime. But, as these are meant to give a more equally grown crop. They are more or less in at the same stage, pheno 1&2 when you look bk over the days, they more or less match.
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