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a year ago
Welcome to my Milkyway F1 Auto Diary "Topped Vs Untopped" sponsored by RQS. Veg Days: Topped 29-35 Untopped 29-32 Both plants have been really good. Really easy growers. A bit surprised they haven't flipped yet. Thankful though. They've vegged really well. And there's a lot of good growth there. Nice nodes on both. Will make for nice bud sites that'll allow a lot of light to hit them. They've both responded well to the jungle juice trio & enzymes. They both took a good bit of shock. But they're strong gentics and recovery was quick and no flip, which is always a worry after shocking an auto. "They both had a really rough transplant, they were in a 4gal pot with Frosted Guava. Atlas was given to break down and broken roots and turn them into beneficial nutrition for 2 wks (4 feeds). Also, there was a lot of old roots, as I reused my light/coco mix from Biobizz "which they say is completely fine, that and they're inert. You just need something to turn dead growth into mycelium/beneficial nutrition. (UNTOPPED) pheno 2: 25.5cm 32nd Veg Day. Multiple defoliations 10-15% max, will apply LST this wk (edited: LST & Hard defoliation was done, not my best work. And, maybe I removed too much growth. Only time will tell. Hopefully she'll veg another few days before flipping. They're very close. This one was defoled a lot, especially through the past week. Only applied LST this wk & the last defoliation was done today (Veg Day 32). The 1st set of nodes, "which usually don't add up to much, were removed and a few shoots that wouldn't of amounted to much that were on the starts of the nodes, "closest to the main stem". (TOPPED) Pheno1 23.5cm 35th Veg Day, multiple defoliations. 10-15% max. Will apply LST this week. I reckon this will be her last few days of veg. (Edited: a good bit of defoliation done on this one. Did a good bit today, this will be the last of it before it flips. Applied her LST, was much harder to do than the Untopped 1, her top set of nodes had made 2 knuckles making it hard to bend the top. I'll see the LST take shape much more when they flip. Removed the few shoots that were deep inside the plant close to the stem on the nodes. Day 33 applied more defol making sure to take the fan leafs attached to new shoots that are just popping to halt there growth and making them "hopefully flip close to nodes making for colas and not buds Heights, Defoliation & LST Lights...P1000 for veg. 100% 45ish/cm away. FC 3000 or Hopefully in a week r 2, they'll be under a FC4800 with increased co2 with full co2 kit in a much better 3x3 tent. Pref a DR90, will see how much all this co2 crap cost. I've placed both plants at the back of both corners. Hopefully this will even the ppfd for both plants. Defol more taking fan leafs from nodes (the shoots that draw energy for them) i want to halt their growth and so when they flip. They'll be close to the nodes. Added Terra Power La Calvera aka voodoo juice. "On my last few mls".
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Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblyweek 0
Good to see an untrained grow
resimax
resimaxweek 2
Looking great!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@@resimax, thanks pal
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdavirusweek 0
I'll be watching πŸ‘€ to see if you come to the same conclusion that I have on top n no top Good luck on your new babies πŸ‘Ά πŸ’œ 🌱🌱
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Cyrusdavirus, let's see. Lol. I've had mixed results.
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpsweek 0
Good luck with your grow πŸ‘¨β€πŸŒΎπŸŒ²
Breadandbuds
Breadandbudsweek 1
I dont understood so good if are all autoflowering this RQS F1, good luck this will be a super grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Breadandbuds, Yeah, I mes them also. As my understanding where F1s were FF photos. They sent me something explaining what they mean. It's just a cross of less strains, even a more stable pheno. I think. I read it couple wks back lol, and my mind blank
Xpie77
Xpie77week 1
Happy Grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Xpie77, thanks :-)
kohlrabi
kohlrabiweek 0
Very curious to see your results! Good luck and enjoy the grow! πŸ₯¦
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@kohlrabi, me to. Looking forward to getting some good results. Am gonna put them in 5gal pots for best results this wk. Thanks for dropping by.
Unkraut
Unkrautweek 0
good luck with this grow! 🌿
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
This sounds like a fun experiment, and it will be interesting to follow along. Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
Aldo90
Aldo90week 4
My next thing is getting a veg tent sorted. I've got my old 4x4 still I've also got a ts1000 I just need the space lol. Only thing I'd need to buy to set it up would be a wee extractor.
Aldo90
Aldo90
@gottagrowsometime, that's my main reason for making the switch to fems this run, I've done auto runs I've been happy with got what i thought was a decent yield, but then I'd end up getting an ounce each from 3 that took 14 weeks also lol. I've germinated, gg sherbet, gg cookies and tropicana cookies, all 3 are the fast buds FFs. See how this one goes. I'll be adding the uv/ir light in soon also, just need to buy one first lol.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Aldo90, yeah, a veggie tent is a must. In saying that. Soon, she'll be rocking a 300w or I might just add another 100w as my 100cm2 is flowering fems and is only running at barely 14hrs a day. Frosted G is already flipped. The p1000 puts out enough ppfd to finish her. But, not for the whole tent I'll need 2. Have to think on it. Will the yield of 4 autos be enough for the cost of running it. I'm not sure.
Sweetie420
Sweetie420week 0
Wish You Best πŸ™‚ i will follow this Milkyway 🀩🀩🀩 My Medusa F1 and Apollo F1 soon go to the glass 😜
Sweetie420
Sweetie420
@gottagrowsometime, yeah soon i will make a diaries. πŸ˜‰
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Sweetie420, lovely stuff. I'll check em out when they up. Good luck
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 4
Death to the gnats
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@NegotiatedBubble, caught about 15 on just 1. Thing is, did i catch them before they got a chance to lay any eggs. I'll know in a few days if my 4e investment paid off.
Breadandbuds
Breadandbudsweek 2
Is a good test iam doing to on Purple Pung OG, is fresh and good to know to understand how a plant respond to the topping and let know to other grower. If I were a breeder I would insert this indication on the response to the topping in the data sheet
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Breadandbuds, I fully agree with you. As some breeders autos do really well when topped, have to get it in and hopefully you'll get min another 2 weeks of veg. Fastbuds take well to a top. But 3 times I done it to dutch-passion and they turned out small. Look forward to seeing the results. I just topped pheno 1, have to get her uppoted to her next pot. Have done it in a way, I can push my 2 hands down and cup it to pull it up. Hopefully won't be too much stress. Both will have to go through this. Gonna make it as even as I can. I know you can't get results , well results you can say for sure it'll work everytime. But, as these are meant to give a more equally grown crop. They are more or less in at the same stage, pheno 1&2 when you look bk over the days, they more or less match.
mcflow
mcflowweek 2
Looks great! Good luck growingπŸ€
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@mcflow, cheers buddy
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowesweek 0
Good luck with your gro! 😎
Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblyweek 5
Nice diary my dude
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Ned_Schneebly, cheers mate. Thx for stopping by
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpsweek 4
Looking good πŸ‘¨β€πŸŒΎπŸŒ²
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Ju_Bps, thx m8
DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowerweek 3
looking very good :)
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@DeepWaterGrower, cheers buddy.
Bmolly
Bmollyweek 12
Your passion for gardening is contagious. Your plants reflect the love and care you pour into them. Keep nurturing and sharing your green journey, inspiring others along the way. 🌱πŸ’ͺ
TheMeditrerranean81
TheMeditrerranean81week 2
I will be waiting your comments about the strain, and the effects of her mate... Happy grow..😎