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Man Made Grow - 1st Indoor

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LED/300W
Light
LED/300W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Sour Stomper
Mephisto Genetics
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
Wow what an incredibly qualitative not quantitative grow! The buds, while loose and airy are smelly as heck and sticky with an almost oily like resin. I can understand now why it's such a desirable strain for doing extracts, anytime you touch a bud or sugar leaves your fingers get an extremely greasy glued look. The plant has a nice hint of grapes buried beneath the strong cannabis scent. With this plant being my 1st indoor grow there had been many mistakes from seed to harvest that helped cause such a low harvest. Such as using strong lights too late, using the 1 gallon pot, accidentally snapping the top half with some failed/late LST attempt, and getting a tent setup later than I liked. Fortunately the plant taught me enough to work out the kinks for the following grow and I'm seeing an extremely better difference from this 1st grow and the next.
The Outcome
Week 11
Harvest
What's on the scales?
17.6
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
41.8
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.74
mΒ²
ftΒ²
Grow Room size
0.06
g / watt
23.78
g / mΒ²
17.6
g / plant
1.35
plant / mΒ²
405.41
watt / mΒ²
Tastes like
Fruity
Herbs
Sour
Feels like
55% Sativa 45% Indica

Positive effects

Energetic
Happy

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Nutrients
I'm undecided about the efficacy of this product even though I understand that mycorrhizal fungi is very important.
I like the Fox Farm line a lot. If I have to use bottled nutrients I feel most comfortable, happy, and satisfied with them. I can see when it fixes a deficiency and I rarely encounter a toxicity.
I mainly used this because I had it available. But i know some people who have great success with Remo.
I love Kelp. Everyone should embrace kelp! If you can get kelp vs. Seaweed extract that's best.
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Experimentgreen Experimentgreen
5 years ago
I chose Mephisto Sour Stomper because I had seen others diaries and they all showed a relatively short plant, I knew my starting grow space and what it could accommodate and this strain seemed to fit what I had to work with. It's an extremely convenient thing to be able to research a plant and the way it might grow based off everyone's data on grow diaries, that was one of my most helpful tools at starting to attempt indoor growing. Using the 1 gallon smart pot was another difficult thing as it dried out very fast and needed watering 1-2 times daily, but i do believe there's a strong connection to the size of the pot and the size of your plant. Due to this plant having so many unplanned complications and that lead to the less desirable bud density and quantity I had to make some decisions on what to do with the limited buds I had. After it dried for 5 days i was left with 17.6 grams of untrimmed highly resinous bud sites. I decided the best possible option available was to not trim the plant and just remove any leaf matter with no trichromes. I then used a Rosintech press to turn it all into Rosin....which worked great since the buds were so fresh. I did a practice press with some old dry buds and it was a huge failure...so key to good rosin, use the freshest buds you can find. I found that my most successful range was between 210-220 temperatures for about 1 minute. I tried using a 20 micron bag i had won on GD and it was useless unless you're pressing kief, basically any bag lower than 90 micron wasn't any good for pressing flower or trim material. Out of the 17.6 grams of material I managed to get 2.7 grams which is actually not bad, it's about a 15% return rate. Given I had to dial in my process and wasted a batch on the 20 micron bag I was very happy. The rosin was a very gorgeous honey color which is also a good sign. So basically this was a fun grow, and no grow is a loss where you get to learn and try new things. This is a great strain for rosin pressing and it was a beautiful strain to see and smell. I'll definitely try to grow it outdoors this summer for comparison. Many thanks Mephisto. ✌️
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Grow Questions
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenstarted grow question 5 years ago
Hey everyone.... So i sort of snapped a main stem, The Main Stem. Yikes it was awful. Any tips on attempting to piece plant parts back together? Miracle juices or anything like aloe vera? Any advice helps thank you all.
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Other. Harvest - Smoking
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
When it happens to me I support the stem with a stick and if it's not enough I use tape to keep the stem straight during recovery. If the stem is really almost broken then use both tape and sticks or cut it once and for all to make An auto clone but it is more funny than useful. Concerning what you can give to her I think aloe Vera can be a good stuff as it contain a lot of trace elements and even more , I use it on my skin injury to recover faster so maybe it works the same on ganja πŸ€”
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenstarted grow question 5 years ago
This is my first indoor grow, is there anything different i should be doing at harvest, other than just chopping it down like with outdoor? What's with the putting plants in the dark for 24+ hours before chopping?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2answered grow question 5 years ago
A myth. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 6
I should really change the title of this grow to the cursed grow, or the disastrous auto flower experiment, or just don't be an idiot grow.😊
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@zack1, so true, i was cursing the fact that its an auto and wouldn't just grow more foliage. Lol
zack1
zack1
@Experimentgreen, it's not that difficult. like you said, you waited to long to tie her down. it's all about the right amount of tension. you should practice on a regular or feminized one. when you mess up (in veg) you can just let it grow back. if i ever do an autoflower i will only top it once right before it go's to flower. and maybe scrog, that's it. try to keep it simple in the beginning. peace!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@zack1, so true. I learn way more from my disasters. I'm so wary of even trying to tie down my others now. I'll get the swing of it eventually.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 11
Hi i really dont know if there is apositive effect of putting the plant on a "darkcycle" i tried it one time , and the oly thing i had was mold after 24 hours
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, @budrick - thank god someone else feels my pain - I miss the outdoor season like crazy! Couldn’t help but notice the thread re: reduced light cycle - I tried this a couple years ago and the only discernible difference I found was a lower yield. If ur just straight experimenting cool, but I wouldn’t expect a grow revelation if u know what I mean. Just an FYI cuz I don’t wanna see either of you burn a bean unnecessarily. Good luck either wayπŸ‘Š
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@CRiSPrGrow, omg i miss the outside so bad. Thank goodness it's only a couple months off. I think i could get away with putting some out in may.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@Experimentgreen, i was gonna just say i am groot but i was like nah, indoor growing though amirite? humans have some funny hobbies 😭
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NomNom
NomNomweek 9
You're doing well. First grows are tough. Don't worry about the top breaking off, my first grow I got bud rot in the tent (power kept cutting out and humidity/temp spiked). I had to cut the tops off over 1/2 my plant and I even cut cola's in 1/2. They are strong plants, she put that extra energy into the remaining cola's and those swelled more. Relax you're doing great.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@NomNom, pssshh honey i need all the support and encouragement I can get. None of those things matter...some of the truly badass growers I've met here don't worry one second over trophies and what not. I'm glad I'm not alone. Plus most of those likes were from growing big outside plants that took 28 weeks...anyone can collect over that many weeks. I'm cool being a newbie.😊
NomNom
NomNom
@Experimentgreen,Sorry I'm such a retard. I was just going looking through the "Diaries" page and saw your post as "1st indoor" and the picture. I read through the diary and thought I'd say some nice encouraging words of support because I thought you were a newbie. I was having issues a few months ago and I thought I'd let you know you're not alone with the issues. I didn't look at your profile so I didn't realize you have a million likes and a bunch of trophies. Now I feel like a goof 😜
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@NomNom, serious, mine did that too. My 99.9% sunshine diary, i got 12 ounces out of with nonstop chaos which was cool...but it had an odd twang to it too. Maybe my drying and curing methods are off...or switching from fox farm to remo half way through. I'm going to try to keep its as chemical free as possible this year on the outdoor and see if there's a difference. I'd be content not dealing with the legal guys at all....unfortunately I don't see everything they're using and doing so I'm much happier to do home grown. Even if it's the schwaggiest stuff there ever were, i still get to take ownership over it.😊
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Budcrack
Budcrackweek 4
That makes two of us who make catastrophic mistakes! There are so many factors inside you don't worry about outside, but also vice versa! You need to find your daily grind inside! But i'm sure you will man ;-)
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Budcrack, this plant didn't manage to yield much lol but it did show me how to work out the kinks...i think i have my space a little bit more under control. Thanks for all the support. ✌️
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Experimentgreen, What i said earlier bro, autoflowers have a fixed cycle and retarding or stunning them causes a lot of problems. You are right about the learning curve, and also trough the eyes of the beholder of your diary, a diary where nothing goes wrong is nice but also not much to be learned! It's only trown away time if you trow in the towel. See you next week! πŸ‘Š
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Budcrack,Oh yes...the cold may make me go plant homicide at any moment! So watch your gardens everyone. πŸ˜‰πŸ€£ omg you did not just drop a comic slam on my diary! πŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’šβœŒοΈhaha I love it.
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 4
Oh shit your doing fine. You were just decarbing it early. You might just want to wait till you harvest. Before you cook it. πŸ˜‚
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, It's snowing right now...again. so apparently im the most unlucky person during times of storm. Maybe my luck will return in 4 months
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, That's my line πŸ‘…πŸ‘…
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, just got lucky. πŸ˜‰
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 1
welcome to the fascinating world of indoor horticulture ! πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ πŸ‘
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@CRiSPrGrow, like mycorrhizal fungi? Or beneficial insects? I try letting the spiders eat the bugs they want outside, but i definitely need to up my pest management system for this spring/summer
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@Experimentgreen, first off merry christmas EG ! , second of all, have you considered what i call biological warfare ? using special bacteria to fight those pests? i'm doing that now, great results - hit me up i'll show you what i mean lol
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@CRiSPrGrow, I miss my outdoor garden...bugs and all. I miss the warm sunshine and the dirt in my fingers.....πŸ™
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Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 2
Are we going to have a funeral for #2? πŸ‘…πŸ‘…
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, I know, Aren't they!!!! 😳
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Teamdirtbag2, me either. Awkward. 😬
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen, I dont do funerals.... if I can help it.
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 10
Playing god inside sees a lot less pest issues than having to bow down to god outside! Lol. For a 1 gal. Pot she looks real impressive and would be interested to follow what you could do with a larger pot indoors EGπŸ˜‰. All the best to the chop my friend - she be a fine lookn lady πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘Œ.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, i totally agree. I've git 2 sour stompers in 3 gal pots vs the 1 gal in this one. And they got put under the led earlier and they were much bigger and bushier...we'll see how they compare in the end.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@Experimentgreen, my problem is always with plant count - each one needs to make it for the sake of the stash inventory so when it comes to autos I keep it super simple with basic lst and defo. Some people do some pretty awesome things with autos but higher stress training is always gonna be a little risky with any plant on a genetic time limit. PersonaL opinion: mistakes happen, ditch the screen, go light on clipp’n the green and next one’ll be a monsterπŸ˜‰πŸ‘πŸ‘Š
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, Thanks doll you're sweet. She'd have been much sweeter if i hadn't have gone mad weed whacker and broker her top half off lol. I might have some 5/7/15 gallon pots waiting their turn.😊 But i need my design skills to get better, or figure out how to use a screen.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 6
hey i dont really see many autos responding well to the 90Β° bend technique anyway πŸ‘Š mine didnt either... πŸ‘
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@CRiSPrGrow, it's getting pretty close to the close. For all the mess ups its turned out not too bad. I learned a lot so it's not a loss in any way.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@TheBudWhisperer, @experimentgreen actually i said that then immediately went and did the bend on all my plants lol πŸ™ pray for yield : i'm digging that main cola EG ! gonna get a harvest out of these at least right ?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@CRiSPrGrow, @experimentgreen - so true Bulbi. I grew out a cheese auto last year with extreme lst and it was a disaster. Thought I was being cute/artistic and ended up burning an awesome bean on what yielded out to less than half an oz.... just cuz I didn’t let er grow.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 11
@galaxytotebabe @Teamdirtbag2 I spy with my little eye a one eyed stoner.
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2
@Experimentgreen,@galaxytotebabe well I missed that. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
GalaxyToteBabe
GalaxyToteBabe
@Experimentgreen @Teamdirtbag2 week 1 day 7 pic 10 of 10, the logo for the strain
ArucambaAutoflowers297
ArucambaAutoflowers297week 3
Heey man looking good, i agree on leaving them alone when theyre this young. I just do a few mistings a day since i dont have a humidifier but thats pretty much it. I would reccomend using other cups that arent see through. Because of the contact of the light algue can appear in your soil and give ph fluctuations and root rot. You can always cover the cups with something like aluminium foil or something. Goodluck man!! I think im going with Fantasmo Express in the next run :D
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@ArucambaAutoflowers297, so true! I started seeing a little tinge of green on some of the perilite! I need to transplant or maybe put a sock or something around the cup. I just never have solo red cups laying around so they never get used...i must need to keep a small stock
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 8
hate blurple as well and just picked this up - https://www.rapidled.com/cxb3590-2-x-4-grow-kit/ - a little cheaper option than bulbi’s but half the size too. Tired of the crappy pic resolution and alien glow! Lol
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 8
https://hortibloom.com/product-page/mega-b4-led-grow-bar-light
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 6
Shitty buzz but ya live, learn, move on, yadda, yadda, yadda. Far as I’m concerned it happens to the best of us girl! Here’s to hoping she pulls through it and stays strong for the rest of the stretch!🀞
Teamdirtbag2
Teamdirtbag2week 3
It's not as hard as your making it... Water with food, light, you need to move some air.... And don't let it get too hot When you get all those things perfect it's easy... πŸ‘… remember it's a weed. πŸ‘…πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@OutForReal, I've heard my climate here in nevada is comparable to Afghanistan....odd but my brother and other military persons have all said that. I'm fairly high elevation...but very low moisture through the year. There's not much that grows wild here except sage brush, pine trees and a few other things that can survive on scorching summers dry air and pretty chilly winters. The new light will only help if i stop abusing my plants to the breaking point. (Literally....i snapped the bigger plants top clean off the other day! ) yikes. I'm glad your grandpa has at least you...if he didn't he might have no one, that'd be worse than bearing the burden alone. Old people are cool too..so enjoy his company however you can. Thanks for the GOTM congrats...I'm the 2nd loser. Lol I'm always stuck in 3rd it seems haha.😊
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@OutForReal, that's cool...i actually didn't know that. I thought ganja referred to any weed....just as another slang term.😊
OutForReal
OutForReal
@Experimentgreen,Edit : I was just thinking that the word ganja is mostly used where the cannabis is sativa dominant. Not like it's important bit I was thinking about it
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Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyweek 11
Those buds look awesome!! Great jobπŸ‘Š that rosin looks good😡
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyy
@Experimentgreen, That's Pretty much what my buddy does it great! But sometimes I will work for him here and there when he needs it and I have him pay me with store credit πŸ˜‚
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Thee_HoffGuyy, really! Ugh you lucky dog. I'm a bit jealous. Fortunately the boys who run my local one are very nice and they give a locals discount...but that's the best i can hope for.😊
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyy
@Experimentgreen, Yeah I kno what you mean there I'm lucky enough to have a good friend that owns a hydro shop an like you said he carries everything haha. and I could imagine it would take a good amount of practice to dial it in. great work on it it looks like some nice productπŸ‘ŠπŸ‘ just from looking at it made me have to hit some of the oil It looked so similar to a batch i just made the otha dayπŸ˜ƒ
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Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyweek 11
Great looking plant you got there nice work!!πŸ‘Š Hope you have a great harvest Happy Growing!!!
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyy
@Experimentgreen, Really? I never knew that it always makes me happier when I'm in it as well!!😊 Yeah me to the weather is finally getting Spring like I love it! yeah do half an half is pretty fun it amazing how quick the roots grow in the hydro.
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Thee_HoffGuyy, did you know that soil has natural endorphins in it? Lol when i heard that I realized why i must be so happy playing in the dirt. I can't wait for the outdoor season to start... That's cool with the dwc....I'm not brave enough to give that a go yet. Maybe in a few seasons.😊 I think doing a 1/2 1/2 would be fun to watch.
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyy
@Experimentgreen, There you go!πŸ™Œ The first harvest is always so fun in anything new!! I'm about to finish up my First harvest in RDWC I've done a little hydro before but have only done Flood table and a single bucket DWC. And i have always liked growing in soil better. well now i think my tent will be half an half now!! i did a test run and put a clone straight from the cloner into the bucket system and wow it surprised me!!! Anyways Nice grow it looks beautiful I can't wait to hear the smoke report!!😎 I'll be looking forward to your next grow!
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Green_Friends_Inc
Green_Friends_Incweek 1
Do whatever works for you. I used to use root Riot cubes exclusively. Now I am back to the good old trusty paper towel in a plastic bag trick for germination lol. If you find a way that doesn't work that is a lesson just a valuable as finding a way that does work in the long run. πŸ‘
Green_Friends_Inc
Green_Friends_Inc
@Experimentgreen, Seeds went straight into the cubes. 60-90% success rate I would say which is fine with bag seed but when paying good money for seeds or you don't have many etc nothing less than 100% is what I want lol. 9 times out of 10 the cubes would successfully pop the seeds open but from there only 6-9 of 10 would make it to "seedling" stage
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@Green_Friends_Inc, oh so true, I probably learned much more from my failures this summer than any stuff that went right lol. Did you put the seeds straight into the riots or did you germinate first ?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 11
Beauty EG. U got me thinkn about the rosin game nowπŸ˜‰. Nicely done friendπŸ‘πŸ˜Ž
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@TheBudWhisperer, it's all trial and error....but the main thing press fresh. Don't press the year old trim that's been sitting in a glass jar getting crispy...it acts like a sponge and releases and then absorbs the rosin. ✌️
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 11
what a journey πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ great fun tagging along !
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@CRiSPrGrow, oh you're not allowed to leave....you put the handcuffs on when you stole my training bra. Hahaha But thank you.😊 chopped another 1 down last night...gotta deal with the last today or tomorrow.