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rhodes68 rhodes68
4 years ago
Week Five and Flowering has begun Will fold in Bio-Bloom and replace Fix Mix with Bio-grow , may add some Phos via top dressing as well. Yellowing continues to recede just not fast enough for my comfort. Brandy has obviously stunted considerably and Maggie at least somewhat. Could not expect differently Moving to Flowering tent soon as its clear, couple of days at most 10/28 UPDATE Going to play on a couple of hunches at next watering. Need to get a TDS meter soon, got a feeling it would help. Ever since we went to BioBizz we have experienced a variety of oddness in the vein of this grow. Now long term since we are switching to coco and Flora nuet line that is solved but short term I am switching to Dr. Earth Flower Girl for remainder of grow. Every feeding/watering will be @6.5 PH to 20% run off and checking PH on that. Of course this will be modified based on results. Schedule is a single top dressing at 4 tbs (roughly 2 tsp per gal of soil) covering with 1/2 inch min of coco and 50% perlite as a mulch. Layla must go on her own feeding schedule as she is just so much bigger and drinking well. Will do the feed when moving to Flowering tent in a day or so as that will be about time to water. She looks good if a little darker green than I like. Were it only Layla I might not suspect anything... meh Here is where Grow Diaries saved the day , by going back and looking at past grows we came to suspect the nuet change although initially results were great problems always seemed to follow. In my reaction to that, not knowing, I may have made other mistakes, likely in fact. Its a solid organic and may head off some issues. Simplify As for Bandy and Maggie, still have that bottle of H2O2 on the shelf, need to see some serious improvement real soon. Getting to be now or never Later: Talked to the owner of a hydroponics store who is also a long time grower that knows these nuet lines cold. His take is that it is absolutely the Bio-Bizz nuets, seems they are hard to run alone as they have holes in their make up which will cause mystery deficiencies in some plants and soil mixes. That really pisses me off LoL , my fault though just glad I have partial explanation. Good thing is he was able to show me the CocoTek Grow and Bloom lines and that is going to be the choice, two part feed without complications. Simplify heheh 10/29 Confirmed the dye reading of pot PH on all three by another method. Took a handful sized soil sample from as deep as I could of each pot and placed into a cup, soaked with 7.0 water let stand 15 minutes to stabilize, tested pour off, all at 6.7 so that is NOT the problem. Damn it This is the reasoning: Water goes into the pot at 6.4-6.5 takes the entire system to that level temporarily, it then begins bringing it up to 6.7-6.8ish and that friends covers the entire range of nuet take-up in soil. Going to cheat a bit high and make it 6.5 solid as its good on acid content. Least thats how I see it, back to basics so may as well. Top dressing Layla today with Flower Girl, others follow when pots dry out a bit more. Moved to Flowering Tent , something came up and they still have not been feed will try and do it this afternoon. 10/30 Fed Recharge 0.5 tsp - Kangaroots 5ml - CalMag 5ml - PH 6.5 for one gallon over 4 tbs top dressing Dr. Earth Flower Girl and one inch of mulch (50% coco/perlite) 11/1 Defoliated Layla (about 3%) so the center of the plant gets good light, did a little training on Brandy to keep things dry, Maggie... man just letting it grow I am just flabbergasted at this yellow leaf thing Pics at watering tomorrow 11/2 No water today, they dont need it.
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Grow Questions
rhodes68
rhodes68started grow question 5 years ago
See pics Brandy and Maggie curled leaves-yellowing-spotting so making an attempt to fix the issue with a 6.1 PH root drench of Cal-Mag 5ml and Kangaroots 10ml / gal about 2 gal for each plenty of runoff that tested at 6.1 PH. Soil has tested twice at 6.5-6.8, notes in grow. idea?
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Leaves. Curl up
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 5 years ago
Sometimes leaves will tend to cup or curl down due to root problems but sometimes the curl upwards too. One warning flag was that the plant was drying out every day (you should only have to water your plant every few days, if it’s drying out in just one it likely needs more water at a time). It’s always a good idea to listen to your plants when deciding when to water, as opposed to following a set schedule. Each plant and environment is different, and what works for some plants may not work as well for others!
rhodes68
rhodes68started grow question 4 years ago
The further I move the lights out, they are now at twice the "ideal" placement of 14" at 28" and the yellowing on Maggie and Bra is disappearing to a great extent. Do yall know of any deficiency that makes a plant highly susceptible to light burn?
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Leaves. Color - Pale
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Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfanswered grow question 4 years ago
@rhodes68 Calcium deficiency can cause leaf damage when exposed tp bright light
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HisHope
HisHopeweek 2
Grow ladies grow!!
rhodes68
rhodes68
😁@HisHope,
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixweek 1
Good luck!
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Wicked_Stix, Thanks
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 1
Gonna follow this one, i guess you'll catch me up since you're indoors and I just started outdoors, i can tell i'll be drooling over these indoor ones in like 6 to 7 weeks , with LST and a FIM or two it might be that you get this over full tent anyway, one can only hope right? πŸš€ good luck growmie πŸ‘Š
rhodes68
rhodes68
@CRiSPrGrow, Oh yeah it can solved just no need at present to do so, and I can be lazy 😁 I cannot see any situation barring inability to get seed for going photo indoors, outdoors absolutely, so for now its ok. Adding some netting behind the germ station just to prevent accidents. Now that stuff I do lol
rhodes68
rhodes68
@CRiSPrGrow, Lol basically my philosophy is becoming just get out of the way of the great genetics. Pushing causes more problems than not IMHO. So much easier to raise healthy plants and forget the litany of complications available. Yes God has this thing booked, but that's just the system we have to operate well within it to be successful. I am 11-0 with "bag seed" 8 for me three for a friend, least stressful germ ever I mean inch and a half tails in less than a day on the paper towel though we did have to nurse a couple as expected. See those seed are completely mature, the bad ones get discarded. Cant do that with $10 a pop seeds. πŸ‘
rhodes68
rhodes68
@CRiSPrGrow, You talking clones or a piece of gear?
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Philindicus
Philindicusweek 4
If you spray the foliage be sure to get under the leaves and try to do it when the lights aren't on and make sure the leaves are dry before they come on. It looks like maybe an iron possibly a sulfur deficiency or both. If the soil ph is that high most likely sulfur. Hopefully the Epsom salt will correct it. You can also try to use an Epsom salt foliage spray 1 tsp per gallon of water once or twice a week until it improves.πŸ‘
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Philindicus, That is my hope thus the rooting drench and they are picking up as normal leaves are appearing though yellowed. Keep looking at Layla and thinking what could have been heh. Already planning next grow in 70-30 or 60-40 buffered coco coir and perlite. I still see soil as the better medium but this kind of issue makes unknowns a big deal. For now the soil can stay outdoors.
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Philindicus, I also thought of a combination of genetics (making the plant more susceptible) and a partial lockout reducing the supply of particular nuets. No way of proving that of course but these are all Fast Bud and they share a common ancestor in ruderalis or so goes the rumor. I can reestablish biological cultures, good dose of Recharge and Fish Sh!t would do that or so goes the conventional wisdom.
Philindicus
Philindicus
@rhodes68, They will problably pull through this once the roots fill those 7 gallon pots and start pulling in the nutrients.
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Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 13
Hey there, Well done on your grow. We hope you have enjoyed growing our genetics !! Keep up the good work! Happy harvest!!!🌾
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Fast_Buds, I am certainly enjoying partaking in it that is for sure 😁
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Fast_Buds, Thanks
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 3
Hey there! Thanks so much for doing a Stardawg Diary!! We can't wait to see how she turns out!
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Fast_Buds, Please note the question I sent in chat, could use some advice here if at all possible.
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Fast_Buds, Yeah we doing our best :)
Buddha2
Buddha2week 13
Congratulations! So you are regularly growing monsters πŸ˜ƒ
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Buddha2, It seems something clicked with us during the Stardawg grow. It was so difficult yet during all of it our plants got bigger. Switching to coco was the last piece of the puzzle. Basically I just follow Dr. MJCoco's book, it is on amazon or on his site for free. Heh look Ma! I can follow directions πŸ˜‡ See on a serious note my wife has medical issues as do I and this is giving us a new lease on life. Motivation is always important aint it πŸ˜‰
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 13
proppa job bro and stunning results .
rhodes68
rhodes68
@mr_h_kovert, Thanks man
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 13
fruits of your labour r-man. rich rewards. a doff of the cap to you sir.
rhodes68
rhodes68
@mr_h_kovert, Thank you Learned a lot on this grow... heh deja vu πŸ˜‰
EZgrower
EZgrowerweek 6
it's very interesting to watch your diary. I wish you a huge harvest of buds. What do you prefer to use a Bong or a joint. 4-20 Bro. subscribed and watching your grow.πŸ‘
rhodes68
rhodes68
@EZgrower, Thank you Yeah I always seem to find new and interesting ways to kill a plant, haven't succeeded yet but I try πŸ˜‹ I grow due to my wife's tumor protocol, she is even growing now check out HisHope and great little Runtz plant we can upon simply by fortune. We ingest everything, I have COPD and should not, hell wont smoke. but I am eyeing a dry herb vape πŸ˜‡ Miss smoking my one hitter that we used while living in a prison state and cannabis hard to come by, we live in a freer state now. This is MUCH better. May your yields be plentiful and your bud potent
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 10
get tat dang camera sorted out bro - wanna see the sexy nug shots innit.
LandOfTheBigBaboon518
LandOfTheBigBaboon518week 9
I've been thinking about running some of these and I'm almost sold. Can't wait to see how they turn out!
HisHope
HisHopeweek 5
Their turn around has been amazing to watch! Green thumb, hell, more like green limbs! Way to go, darlin!
DankGardener
DankGardenerweek 3
One warning flag was that the plant was drying out every day (you should only have to water your plant every few days, if it’s drying out in just one it likely needs more water at a time). It’s always a good idea to listen to your plants when deciding when to water, as opposed to following a set schedule. Each plant and environment is different, and what works for some plants may not work as well for others!
rhodes68
rhodes68
@DankGardener, There is a misunderstanding, they have only been watered twice in 8 days last being 2 days ago when I did the root drench on Brandy and Maggie. Layla has yet to have her second watering so its been 7 full days for her when I water tonight at lights on. Ambient humidity has been high-ish due to weather so plants are not drying out quickly, even my other grow is drinking slow lately. Have lowered humidity but doubt it an issue. My concern for overwatering was due to pot size at transplant only and now I doubt that what I saw on was overwatering. I agree with the root thing though, something is going on down there but only have one tool left in the box, peroxide. So waiting to see
DankGardener
DankGardener
@rhodes68, I think your root problem is caused by underwatering. If the soil is drying out everyday yes you are underwatering. Seedlings like to be watered ever 2 to 3 days. If it goes past give less water but if it's drying out in 1 day give more
rhodes68
rhodes68
@DankGardener, Drying out every day? I do not understand
mr_h_kovert
mr_h_kovertweek 11
still plenty of time to get phatter and phrostier bro - mighty impressive grow so far.
rhodes68
rhodes68
@mr_h_kovert, Matter of a traffic jam at the flowering tent :)
HisHope
HisHopeweek 4
They are turning around! I knew they would under your care! Great steps hon, your hard work and worry is showing. :)
rhodes68
rhodes68
@HisHope, Thanks hon, lets hope it continues :)
rhodes68
rhodes68week 8
To the folks so kind as to answer the Grow Question Thanks :) I perhaps used the wrong term as it gets a little grey, Light Bleaching is what I should have called it. Light burn itself is no mystery to us and what I am looking for is some explanation of why the plant is so susceptible to it. PH, root drenches, and all other considerations have been done to death on this plant and either present a dead end or beyond me to correct. The Ca Def though that is what I was trying to remember and heard somewhere once months ago so I knew it had to be something. It fits with the issues all along the grow on this plant. Going to begin Cal-Mag foliar feeding next opportunity. Thanks Grey_Wolf πŸ‘ Update: Huge turn around in just a few hours. πŸ™ A lot of insight tonight on why the last cal-mag foliar didn't work. Full strength and the wetting agent plus there are a lot more healthy leaves on the plant now to take in the nuets. Changing my track to foliar for the deficiencies and the pot for hard hitters. Seems simple stupid now but too much at once on this grow. My Dad always said I wasn't happy unless I was knee deep in alligators ... yeah he knew me. Heheh no chit huh folks anyway thanks guys love the site. Now I am gonna take a good dose of LSD-25 kick back and look at the plant a bit. helps me think deep thoughts err folks?