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weeks 3
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weeks 4-6, 9-10
20 L
Pot Size
2 L
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Week 11
Flowering
90
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inch
Height
24 hrs
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Nutrients
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ml/gal
tsp/gal
Hesi-PH Down Phosphoric Acid
0.25 ml/l
CANNA RHIZOTONIC - Canna
CANNA RHIZOTONIC
0.5 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A
1.7 mll
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Lit_1 Lit_1
4 years ago
Week 11 - Gelato #33 Auto All measurements are per 1L of water Day 71 (Flower Day 43) - Week 11!!! Time really does fly and it's so nice to have the ladies with me as it does. A few changes are being made of note. First I'll be changing to a 24h light cycle. This is mainly to do with the spike in humidity when the lights go off and the temps go down rapidly. When the light is on the temps stay around 28c and humidity 50%, when its off it's about 24c and 61% humidity. So i rather error on the side of 50% humidity. Now these are auto's so arguably I could of had the lights on a 24h cycle all this time. Although i do see the merit in having a small night cycle for them and most of all for the LED light. However since its already week 11 and this grow will most likely only be going another two to three weeks I think it should be fine, maybe even beneficial to flower development. The feeds from now on will be with lower A and B and a little amount of PK until i taper off completely by the end of this week. I feel that the lower nitrogen and higher potassium and phosphorus should be more advantageous. Therefore the feed today was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.6 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B / 0.5mL PK1314 / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.6 and PH 6.4 Day 72 (Flower Day 44) - The humidity and temperatures have been constant with the lights on a 24h cycle now. The humidity range is between 46-51% and the temperature's have been down as well and are around 26c currently as its been cooler lately. I'm happy that there are no more spikes happening. During the heat of the day i do turn down the lights a bit to keep the temps in control and keep the DLI down a bit for the plants for the day, they seem to be doing just fine from it. The feed today was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.6 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 1.0mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.4 and PH 6.3 Day 73 (Flower Day 45) - Trichomes still clear by a good amount on the CJH which is the furthest along, so they all have quite a ways to go, I'd say 3 weeks at the earliest. They all seem to be liking the cooler weather and constant humidity. The feed today was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 1.5mL A / 1.5mL B / 0.4mL PK1314 / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 2.0mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.4 and PH 6.5 Day 74 (Flower Day 46) - Not much to report other than its raining again so humidity levels are up slightly but its much cooler. Humidity is about 55% and temperatures are way down to about 25c so according to the vapor chart everything is in a good range. I have the dehumidifer running constantly but its a tiny one so doesnt have such a huge effect on things. Regarding the light levels i turn off the light during the warmest part of the day for a few hours but stopped that yesterday due to the rain (then it gets humid fast in there without the heat). The girls all seem to be doing well just very slow growth with the exception of the Purple Punch as she's fattening up nicely. I upped their feed a little bit today to see how they like that. The G33 and WW are hardly drinking anything, about 1-1.5L and they get tons of runoff from that. The CJH about 1.5-2L and she gets the same runoff. The Purple Punch is the thirsty girl so i've been focused on making sure she's getting as much as she can drink each day with an equal amount of runoff. She drinks about 4L a day easily and is the driest come the next day before feeding time. Most likely due to her stage of flowering on putting on breadth/girth to the flowers. The feed today was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 2.0mL A / 2.0mL B / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 2.5mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.6 and PH 6.3 Day 75 (Flower Day 47) - No pictures today, I'll get some up tomorrow. On some related news I've got one of those digital microscope's that should be arriving possibly by monday so i'll be able to post some good pictures of the trichomes of the ladies. I put a second fan in there as well to help with air movement which really helps put my mind at ease in regards to mold growing. The feed today was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B / 0.3mL PK1314 /1.0mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.4 and PH 6.4 Day 76 (Flower Day 48) - Purple Punch is really fattening up. I think the CJH is ready to be harvested but I'll wait until i get my digital microscope on Monday to confirm. The feed today was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B /1.0mL Cannazyme / 2.0mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.3 and PH 6.5 Day 77 (Flower Day 49) - Everything is looking good with the ladies. I'm expecting that microscope tomorrow so expect some trichome pics tomorrow hopefully. Feed today was nice and light. I believe I'll keep it like this and wont be adding any more PK1314 going forward. Feed: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 0.5mL Rhizo / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B /1.0mL Cannazyme / 2.0mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.4 and PH 6.3
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Lit_1
Lit_1started grow question 5 years ago
Worried if the tips of the new growth are exhibiting any signs of a micro-nutrient deficiency, CaMg? I've been feeding her CaMg but not every feed, about once every 3 days.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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smoke24
smoke24answered grow question 5 years ago
You may have a light stress issue, I see the serrations on the leaves are starting to curl up a little bit. I've had this problem as well. Try either moving your light up or turning down the intensity, and see if you notice a difference in 3 days.
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Growingkitten
Growingkittencommentedweek 75 years ago
Looking good! Keep it up! ๐Ÿ˜บ
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Growingkitten, Thank you very much!
GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommentedweek 75 years ago
Looking great bro. Cheers
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@GMSgrows, Thank you sir!
Lord_Gabe_Newell
Lord_Gabe_Newellcommentedweek 45 years ago
I second @smoke24 about light stress. Had the same with my HLG fixtures, these new led diodes are mega powerful with minimal heat, the good old rules to determine light heights you find on sites apply to HPS/MH mostly, but not high end LEDs. Try to stick with the manual that comes with the light, however I had to move my HLG a few inches further than listed on their site cuz it slowly burned my babies with too intense light (not heat).
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Lord_Gabe_Newell, Ya I think you're both right. I've already moved the light up. We'll see if thats enough. I have a lot more room to move it up as these girls are shorties
teddaykgb
teddaykgbcommentedweek 25 years ago
The attention to detail in this diary...:D Keep up the good work and good luck dude!!!
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@teddaykgb, Thank you sir! I'm trying as best i can, hopefully a good result will come but who knows? Atleast with my 2nd grow i'll have crazy notes of where i went wrong or right that i can maybe change ๐Ÿ˜‚
WitheredEye
WitheredEyecommentedweek 35 years ago
Mine did that after feeding yesterday. Only the newest growth was brown tipped
Lit_1
Lit_1commentedweek 35 years ago
@smoke24 Thanks for your help. I think that is exactly what it is, light stress. I havent measured my plants in awhile and some of them grew closer than 60cm (50cm about). I've since raised the light. Thanks again for your astute observation and help!
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808commentedweek 55 years ago
Yes Yesss Brother ๐Ÿ˜Š Good to see a fresh update on the babies and they're all looking super fine my friend!! I know you was having a few issues but it looks like everything is in order and tidy man!๐Ÿ‘ Have you been watering with runoff or do you just stick to a certain amount of water only? I noticed you're only feeding 1ltr in a bigger pot but I've been feeding my plant 3ltr per day in an 11ltr pot to get my PPM correct on runoff and my PH runoff has been perfect too! I don't know if it's the best way but it's been working so well I don't wonna change Shit!!!!! ๐Ÿ˜• On my first grow I didn't do this and on flushing my PPM was CRAZY high which made me do things different this time round!! It made me concerned that they were sitting in a high concentration without me knowing because I hadn't runoff properly!! Respects ๐Ÿ˜‰
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808commented5 years ago
@@Lit_1, You're a lucky man bud with humidity perfect then!!! ๐Ÿ‘. So good that it remains low where you are as we know what high humidity can do for the babies!! Speak soon brother ๐Ÿ˜‰
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Bushbaby808, I just took out the humidifier (Rowenta Aqua Perfect) a few days ago as it wasnt kicking on anymore since i set it for 45% and thats where it seems to be without it. Outside humidity in the room is about 38% on average, inside the tent it seems to range from 38-48% which i think is ok, although maybe on the low side for the plants health. I'm paranoid against budrot though so i think i'm ok with it being that low. I live near the mountains so the humidity isnt very high here and its been raining quite a bit lately so that always spikes it up. During the day and night i try to keep the window cracked open for fresh air/cO2 and equalize the temperature in the tent. I'm hoping these conditions will be good but as you said we'll see what happens and we're learning as we go ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808commented5 years ago
@@Lit_1, Yes bruv, more than likely a bitta both to be honest!!! I'm definitely moving up a pot size next time as I've got roots peepin out all over pot so I'm sure she would've flourished with more room!!! Hahaaaa, the venture continues.......Let's see what happens man, we're learning as we go!!! How are you doing with regards to humidity? There's no way I'm gonna be able to clock a 30-40% for late harvest!!! What dehumidifier do you run and do you deal with humidity inside or outside the tent?
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommentedweek 35 years ago
Your running your ph a little high for soiless in the veg stage. 5.8 is ideal for what the plants want at this stage. You only need to add a little calmag if your using coco coir. Ppm should be 4 to 500 until they start to vigorously grow
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@GMSgrows, Thank you. I've been using Nitric acid as my PH down during Veg as it breaks down to nitrogen just for this reason (during flower i switch to phosphoric acid). It also has to be a micro nutrient 'immobile' issue as its in the new growth and not the old growth. Nitrogen is a mobile nutrient and i believe the leaf color is healthy besides the new growth tips, which indicates micro nutrients. I'm not sure if its just because they are so new and i'm trying to see a problem where there isnt one. I believe its good to let the PH fluctuate a little bit in the healthy range so that the plant can take up certain nutrients it needs at more optimum PH levels. I'm not really a believer in runoff levels as you can get a pretty large discrepancy depending on your runoff on which nutrients happen to wash out during that time and which do not. Thanks for the help though all the same, i do appreciate it!
GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommented5 years ago
@@Lit_1,your correct there. But 5.8 is where your babies take up more nitrogen, that keeps your leaves green. Can't say for sure its calmag issue, if it is there is a reason why. Check your runoff make sure the ec is not way higher than what's going in. Luck my friend
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@GMSgrows, 6.2 is the proper PH for maximum CaMg uptake. The range of 5.6 to 6.6 is generally whats recommended. Still this doesn't answer my question "if the tips of the new growth are exhibiting any signs of a micro-nutrient deficiency, CaMg?"
Canna96
Canna96commentedweek 124 years ago
Very nice farming brother!!! Good luck the rest of the way!!!
Lit_1
Lit_1commented4 years ago
@Canna96,Thank you friend! Much appreciated!
Klunke_Dunk
Klunke_Dunkcommentedweek 15 years ago
I like your approach to growing. Good luck on your grow, which I'll be following :)
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Klunke_Dunk, Thank you very much! I'm quite excited but understand that I'm a total newbie, so I'll document as much as i can. Any comments / suggestions are always appreciated!
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 65 years ago
Great Looking Grow! Looking Forward To Following Along With Your Diary โ€“ Very Good Luck To Youโ—๐Ÿ’ฏ๐ŸŒฟ:thumbsup: ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘ Please Check Out My Diary's๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘
GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommentedweek 35 years ago
Good to see you have worked through your issues. Cheers
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 75 years ago
Great Progress with your farmingโ—๐Ÿ’ฏ๐ŸŒฟ:thumbsup: ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘Please Check Out MrJones FastBuds Gelato Grow #3๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘