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Crop King Seeds - 24k gold
Custom Breeder & Strain
Indoor
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HST
weeks 3
Topping
weeks 3
LST
weeks 3-7, 10
Defoliation
weeks 3-7, 10
ScrOG
weeks 7
Soil
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 1
Vegetation
12.7
cm
inch
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
13+ conditions after
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Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Fancy unsulphered molasses
0.66 ml/l
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
0.066 ml/l
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
0.132 ml/l
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Ner0z Ner0z
3 years ago
So I start this off by saying remember how during germination when I said patience was going to be my main obstacle, boy did that show up this week, on the note let's get into the what I did/ what not to do list. Firstly is rushed purchasing, I did not research a few of the things I bought and it ended up hurting me quickly. The cheap PH pen I bought off amazon broke in the first 20 seconds of unboxing it, it's true you get what you pay for and to add to that shortly after my cheap fan stopped oscillating so oscillation is not a thing that happens in my tent any longer. The biggest failure of researched was achieved when I discover my growing medium WASN'T soil, as many of you know Pro-mix HP w/ mycorrhiza is a soilless mix which function similar to coco. This short sight caused me to ph @ 6.5 rather than the 5.8-6.1ph recommended. Lastly the cardboard "biodegradable" containers they're in are just terrible for my setup. With the girls sitting at ground level the heating pad and ceramic heater I used to keep temps up we're drying out the carboard acting as a wick and sucking out all the moisture from my medium daily. I'm sure this caused heat and stress on the roots and contributed to the sad looking droopy state of my girls and contributed to the stunted growth I witnessed. The next bout of impatience caused me to remove the lid of the propagator and turn my lights to 100% @ 24" this was a mistake as I hadn't tested the conditions of my tent prior to this. I had a very hard time balancing the inline fan speed and humidifier to achieve ideal humidity. It visually stressed out my plants, my solution: FEED THEM!!!!! the knee jerk reaction of the newbie variety. This of course did not help but likely resulted in the burned leaf you see on Dennis' left arm, poor Dennis. Okay so it's around day 11 since they popped out of the soil the girls looked as sad and droopy as the queen in a bikini. How do I diagnose what's going wrong??? Well I did what any sane person would do and consulted the community. I raised my lights up to 36" and dimmed them to 50%. I removed the heating pad and elevated the plants so the heater was no sucking the girls dry. I lowered my fan power and raised my humidity finding somewhat of a consistent balance in the tent conditions. I popped the propagator lid back on for 24hrs and when I looked the next morning they appeared to have a second lease on life. Their leaves are mostly praying back up aside from the first set but I'll give them a little more time. As soon as I can confirm the girls are out of the woods, hopefully tomorrow (a touch of impatience) I want to cut them out of the cardboard and get them into their 3G fabric pots. Concluding week #1 I will admit after watching dozens of hours of YouTube videos, hundreds of journals I thought I was going to strut into growing like Hulk Hogan walking into the ring. What I learned was you can't experience everything in a 20 minute YouTube video and experience is more valuable than anything. I'm behind a few days due to all the issues but am really excited to continue sailing this curiosity voyage. Thanks to the community for being my paddles!
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Grow Questions
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 3 years ago
I want to identify the problem. Plants are 12 days old, stunted with some discolouring on the leaves and some purple stems. Leaves curling down. Medium is promix hp. Ph in 5.9-6.1. Runoff 6.5. 1 light feeding done day 9. Lights 30" 50% pwr. 72-76c 72% RH
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Leaves. Curl down
Leaves. Color - Dark-purple
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunity
DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 3 years ago
Your right. Experience is a valuable teacher.. Also trying new things to valuable but there is also value in letting plants grow.. I think your thoughts about the early feeding are indeed why Dennis has experienced such a downturn.. Cannabis plants use 99% of the water they intake for transpiration.. The other 1% combined with nutrients plus sunlight is what does the actual growing. A key word here is 99% of water is used for transpiration. Plants use a lot more water then nutrients.. I shy away from humidity domes with seedlings because 99% of the time a seedling should be able to intake all the water she needs from the root zone...Doming is for clones period. Sunlight and water bro.. Nutrients are all just various types of salts and sugars and mostly water anyway :) .
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 3 years ago
So my bottom leaves have gone completely pale but my new growth looks pretty good. They were transplanted yesterday but the leaves were already a light lime. Any idea why the first set of true leaves are this different. Promix hp/6.2ph in. Runoff 6.5. 1 25% str light feed done
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Pale
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The8thChevron
The8thChevronanswered grow question 3 years ago
If your pH is coming out higher in the runoff, it usually means you can increase your nutes a little bit. With that in mind, the first true leave probably yellowed due to nitrogen deficiency. No worries, first true leaves aren't very hardy anyway
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 3 years ago
I found this is my basement of our new house and I'm wondering if this is an RO filtration system and if its worth trying to reconnect it as it appears to be bypassed. It does have an electric water softener which I heard you shouldn't use but I'm curious what it is in any case.
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Other. General questions
Setup. Other
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AlienScrOG
AlienScrOGanswered grow question 3 years ago
hei bro i wasted some time studying these damn filters ... i think it is an ion exchange resin and / or cationic the reverse osmosis brings the conduction of water to ~ 0 ~ 40 uscm ... i I am satisfied with an everpure filter .. used by Coca-Cola Company and usa army .... microfiltration and some resins brings my ex from 600 uscm to 250... something is needed in the water ... Cal Mag if you don't have to add it ... deprives and tests the electrical conductivity of the water ..... maybe they are used and full of harmful substances
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 3 years ago
Here we go again. What am I looking at here? Is this leaf septoria? How should I tackle this one lol
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Leaves. Color - Black or grey
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 3 years ago
Do you have mold/mildew or some kind of fungus you need to deal with? A good organic fungicide and pesticide you can use is neem oil (according to recommended amounts) mixed with baking soda (1 teaspoon/liter) in tomato leaf water (or water with tomato leaf extract) the neem oil is a good fungicide and pesticide, the baking soda is very effective against fungi, and the tomato leaf water are excellent against leaf munching pests. As for the plant in the picture if you're saying that the diet was different with more potassium than what is mentioned then try checking the pH level of the runoff as well as the irrigation to make sure the soil is in good condition not just the water. If the pH is fine then the next option is Calcium Toxicity which inhibits Potassium uptake - from the looks of your plant it is very unlikely but still possible, to deal with that try lowering your "Micro" dosage by half. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 3 years ago
Okay so the problems with the black spots continue only on one plant. I tried reducing nitrogen and increased calmag to 4ml/g. I defoliated the affected leaves and sprayed with baking soda mix. 3 days later they're appearing again. If I don't get this fixed soon im gonna lose her
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Leaves. Color - Black or grey
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TopDrippinPimp
TopDrippinPimpanswered grow question 3 years ago
I had something similar and i found deficiency information to lead me in the direction of phosphorus deficiency. Also to be safe make sure your ph is good and roots are healthy....roots problems can mimic many conditions....good luck.
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Ner0z
Ner0zweek 6
Thanks guys. I wish I could say the extra bloom helped but in 2 days its already come back. 10% of the leaves already showing black necrosis spots. Im at a loss
Ner0z
Ner0zweek 1
I've also picked up an Apera PH60 meter that I'm very happy with. I'm currently PH'ing my water & feed to 6.0 as I've been told proper range for Promix PH is 5.8-6.2. If anyone has an opinion on PHing with Promix HP I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Ner0z
Ner0zweek 0
In the OP I meant calmag week 1 & 25% nutes + calmag week 2. Not sure if I can edit that but there it is... also shy, Dennis and Fred are the white widow the rest are 24k gold
Shooey
Shooeyweek 8
Mate I’m laughing and crying! Funniest diary ever,,, are you in entertainment or something? Shattered for the herm,,, here’s hoping the others are all sweet. She might have got the shits you kept calling her Fred and said, β€œwell fuck you then , suck on these!!β€πŸ€£
Ner0z
Ner0z
@Shooey, haha yeah mate fred definitely gave me the old "sugon deez nuts". Thanks for the kind words my dude its all about having a good time with you growmies. Stay tuned there's plenty of time left for more blunders πŸ˜†
Ferenc
Ferencweek 15
Nice result! Well done ;) @Ner0z
Polaskis
Polaskisweek 9
Niiiice work πŸ’ͺ
Ferenc
Ferencweek 9
Nice @Ner0z
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialweek 8
You on a good path too homie πŸ˜‰ keep it up 🀞πŸ’ͺπŸ™Œ
MrJones
MrJonesweek 8
πŸ’―πŸ‘Hope you have an awesome weekend, Looking great nice, and healthy!πŸ‘πŸ’― πŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ‘Please Check Out My DiariesπŸ‘πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ
ChickenWing1024
ChickenWing1024week 8
Nice grow dude!
MrJones
MrJonesweek 7
πŸ‘Happy Monday Growmie! Great Update and your Ladies Look Great!πŸ‘ πŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ‘Please Check Out My Newest Diary'-All Comments Welcome!πŸ‘πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ
Syrunz
Syrunzweek 6
Looking good
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 6
hey, plant is doing good, hope it continues without problems, good luck mate πŸ’ͺ
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83week 10
Lol sounds like all the sht I went through too. They look good though, good luck with the rest of your grow! πŸ€™
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83
@Ner0z, well the one time I had this problem I was using one gallon plastic pots with amended soil to save time (new baby while trying a perpetual grow) I flushed all the good stuff out with runoff accidentally. Started feeding only super light in weight (fabric pots from here on out) and only 1-2 cups at a time. I added great white I believe I was dealing with root rot from over watering and fked up ph, so I keep a shot glass screw driver and 7.0 liquid to keep that ph pen dialed in perfect. And also realized by 3 nodes they want 3-400 ppm with 5 calmag if it's coco out of the gate with the ro water, and 6+ml of the grow because nitrogen deficiency cause yellowing at the bottom first too and 6.0 ph everytime. I'll post a pic if I still have them of my sour jack this happened to. It will be around Week 3-4ish good luck they r looking great!
Ner0z
Ner0z
@Thumbnail83, my dude i was looking through your diaries and it all looked like good buds to me. How did u right the ship
Shooey
Shooeyweek 15
Bloody good job mate Great diary and an excellent result. Well doneπŸ‘
Ner0z
Ner0z
@Shooey, thanks my dude. Was a good learning experience and I managed not to love them to death lol
deFharo
deFharoweek 15
Enjoy the smoke!! πŸ‘Š
Ner0z
Ner0z
@deFharo, thanks man I will. Im just happy my first indoor wasn't a bust
chee_52
chee_52week 8
Best read on GrowDiaries. πŸ˜‚πŸŒΏ
Ner0z
Ner0z
@chee_52, haha thanks man. If I keep writing these novellas they're going to have to change the top buttons from weeks to chapters but I like to have fun with it. Cheers mate
timbarin
timbarinweek 15
beautiful stuff!! hope you will enjoy the puff
MrJones
MrJonesweek 14
πŸ’―πŸ‘Hope you have an awesome weekend, Looking great, nice and healthy!πŸ‘πŸ’― πŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ‘Please Check Out My DiariesπŸ‘πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ
Shooey
Shooeyweek 13
Very nice NerozπŸ‘ You’re on track for a bumper harvest mate!