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Crop King Seeds - 24k gold
40x40x72
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HST
weeks 3
Topping
weeks 3
LST
weeks 3-7, 10
Defoliation
weeks 3-7, 10
ScrOG
weeks 7
Soil
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
11.3562 l
Pot Size
Grow Conditions
Week 10
Flowering
43.18
cm
inch
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
13+ conditions after
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ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
4+ nutrients after
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Ner0z Ner0z
4 years ago
Hey guys! The start of this week was basically a dumpster fire. rookie mistakes were made and most of the growing occurred outside the tent as I tried to figure this mess out. So Dennis has been messing with me since the beginning of this grow. The relationship would be best compared to Bam Margera and his dad Phil, just beating me down while I'm wondering where I went wrong. I couldn't understand the phosphorus/potassium def I was seeing in early veg, thought it might be a fungus, bugs, under feeding, cal-mag issues a witch's curse or gnomes I just wasn't sure. The only thing I had going right was it wasn't affecting the 24k golds in the tent. Just before the start of this week that all changed. I was having NP&K def across the board. No more time to hope it fixes itself I got right to it. I used some clearex solution and flushed them all out. PPM was 180, PPM out was 550 until it leveled out around 200PPM. The PH in the medium was 5.4 last I checked so to bring that up Clearex went in at 6.5 and came out around 6.2. Definitely had some salt build up even though I'm feeding to runoff. So moving forward I'm switching to a "Feed Feed Water" schedule. In addition I've found my home has an electronic water softener, I'm told this increases the salt content and can cause this sort of thing. I've got the RO hookup coming Tuesday, this hobby is getting a little pricey lol. At least I'm enjoying it, without all these problems I think I wouldn't mind lol. So we let them sit in just water/clearex for a day then fed them up tonight at 50% strength where I feel I'll stay the rest of the grow. I gotta say the buds are smelling great, very strong citrus with fruity backtone. They're all starting to pack on weight except Dennis... FU Dennis. Till next time happy growing!
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Grow Questions
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 4 years ago
I want to identify the problem. Plants are 12 days old, stunted with some discolouring on the leaves and some purple stems. Leaves curling down. Medium is promix hp. Ph in 5.9-6.1. Runoff 6.5. 1 light feeding done day 9. Lights 30" 50% pwr. 72-76c 72% RH
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Leaves. Curl down
Leaves. Color - Dark-purple
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunity
DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 4 years ago
Your right. Experience is a valuable teacher.. Also trying new things to valuable but there is also value in letting plants grow.. I think your thoughts about the early feeding are indeed why Dennis has experienced such a downturn.. Cannabis plants use 99% of the water they intake for transpiration.. The other 1% combined with nutrients plus sunlight is what does the actual growing. A key word here is 99% of water is used for transpiration. Plants use a lot more water then nutrients.. I shy away from humidity domes with seedlings because 99% of the time a seedling should be able to intake all the water she needs from the root zone...Doming is for clones period. Sunlight and water bro.. Nutrients are all just various types of salts and sugars and mostly water anyway :) .
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 4 years ago
So my bottom leaves have gone completely pale but my new growth looks pretty good. They were transplanted yesterday but the leaves were already a light lime. Any idea why the first set of true leaves are this different. Promix hp/6.2ph in. Runoff 6.5. 1 25% str light feed done
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Pale
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The8thChevron
The8thChevronanswered grow question 4 years ago
If your pH is coming out higher in the runoff, it usually means you can increase your nutes a little bit. With that in mind, the first true leave probably yellowed due to nitrogen deficiency. No worries, first true leaves aren't very hardy anyway
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 4 years ago
I found this is my basement of our new house and I'm wondering if this is an RO filtration system and if its worth trying to reconnect it as it appears to be bypassed. It does have an electric water softener which I heard you shouldn't use but I'm curious what it is in any case.
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Other. General questions
Setup. Other
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AlienScrOG
AlienScrOGanswered grow question 4 years ago
hei bro i wasted some time studying these damn filters ... i think it is an ion exchange resin and / or cationic the reverse osmosis brings the conduction of water to ~ 0 ~ 40 uscm ... i I am satisfied with an everpure filter .. used by Coca-Cola Company and usa army .... microfiltration and some resins brings my ex from 600 uscm to 250... something is needed in the water ... Cal Mag if you don't have to add it ... deprives and tests the electrical conductivity of the water ..... maybe they are used and full of harmful substances
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 4 years ago
Here we go again. What am I looking at here? Is this leaf septoria? How should I tackle this one lol
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Leaves. Color - Black or grey
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
Do you have mold/mildew or some kind of fungus you need to deal with? A good organic fungicide and pesticide you can use is neem oil (according to recommended amounts) mixed with baking soda (1 teaspoon/liter) in tomato leaf water (or water with tomato leaf extract) the neem oil is a good fungicide and pesticide, the baking soda is very effective against fungi, and the tomato leaf water are excellent against leaf munching pests. As for the plant in the picture if you're saying that the diet was different with more potassium than what is mentioned then try checking the pH level of the runoff as well as the irrigation to make sure the soil is in good condition not just the water. If the pH is fine then the next option is Calcium Toxicity which inhibits Potassium uptake - from the looks of your plant it is very unlikely but still possible, to deal with that try lowering your "Micro" dosage by half. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
Ner0z
Ner0zstarted grow question 4 years ago
Okay so the problems with the black spots continue only on one plant. I tried reducing nitrogen and increased calmag to 4ml/g. I defoliated the affected leaves and sprayed with baking soda mix. 3 days later they're appearing again. If I don't get this fixed soon im gonna lose her
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Leaves. Color - Black or grey
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TopDrippinPimp
TopDrippinPimpanswered grow question 4 years ago
I had something similar and i found deficiency information to lead me in the direction of phosphorus deficiency. Also to be safe make sure your ph is good and roots are healthy....roots problems can mimic many conditions....good luck.
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Ner0z
Ner0zweek 6
Thanks guys. I wish I could say the extra bloom helped but in 2 days its already come back. 10% of the leaves already showing black necrosis spots. Im at a loss
Ner0z
Ner0zweek 1
I've also picked up an Apera PH60 meter that I'm very happy with. I'm currently PH'ing my water & feed to 6.0 as I've been told proper range for Promix PH is 5.8-6.2. If anyone has an opinion on PHing with Promix HP I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Ner0z
Ner0zweek 0
In the OP I meant calmag week 1 & 25% nutes + calmag week 2. Not sure if I can edit that but there it is... also shy, Dennis and Fred are the white widow the rest are 24k gold
Shooey
Shooeyweek 8
Mate Iโ€™m laughing and crying! Funniest diary ever,,, are you in entertainment or something? Shattered for the herm,,, hereโ€™s hoping the others are all sweet. She might have got the shits you kept calling her Fred and said, โ€œwell fuck you then , suck on these!!โ€๐Ÿคฃ
Ner0z
Ner0z
@Shooey, haha yeah mate fred definitely gave me the old "sugon deez nuts". Thanks for the kind words my dude its all about having a good time with you growmies. Stay tuned there's plenty of time left for more blunders ๐Ÿ˜†
Ferenc
Ferencweek 15
Nice result! Well done ;) @Ner0z
Polaskis
Polaskisweek 9
Niiiice work ๐Ÿ’ช
Ferenc
Ferencweek 9
Nice @Ner0z
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialweek 8
You on a good path too homie ๐Ÿ˜‰ keep it up ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ™Œ
MrJones
MrJonesweek 8
๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Hope you have an awesome weekend, Looking great nice, and healthy!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘Please Check Out My Diaries๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ
ChickenWing1024
ChickenWing1024week 8
Nice grow dude!
MrJones
MrJonesweek 7
๐Ÿ‘Happy Monday Growmie! Great Update and your Ladies Look Great!๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘Please Check Out My Newest Diary'-All Comments Welcome!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ
Syrunz
Syrunzweek 6
Looking good
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 6
hey, plant is doing good, hope it continues without problems, good luck mate ๐Ÿ’ช
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83week 10
Lol sounds like all the sht I went through too. They look good though, good luck with the rest of your grow! ๐Ÿค™
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83
@Ner0z, well the one time I had this problem I was using one gallon plastic pots with amended soil to save time (new baby while trying a perpetual grow) I flushed all the good stuff out with runoff accidentally. Started feeding only super light in weight (fabric pots from here on out) and only 1-2 cups at a time. I added great white I believe I was dealing with root rot from over watering and fked up ph, so I keep a shot glass screw driver and 7.0 liquid to keep that ph pen dialed in perfect. And also realized by 3 nodes they want 3-400 ppm with 5 calmag if it's coco out of the gate with the ro water, and 6+ml of the grow because nitrogen deficiency cause yellowing at the bottom first too and 6.0 ph everytime. I'll post a pic if I still have them of my sour jack this happened to. It will be around Week 3-4ish good luck they r looking great!
Ner0z
Ner0z
@Thumbnail83, my dude i was looking through your diaries and it all looked like good buds to me. How did u right the ship
Shooey
Shooeyweek 15
Bloody good job mate Great diary and an excellent result. Well done๐Ÿ‘
Ner0z
Ner0z
@Shooey, thanks my dude. Was a good learning experience and I managed not to love them to death lol
deFharo
deFharoweek 15
Enjoy the smoke!! ๐Ÿ‘Š
Ner0z
Ner0z
@deFharo, thanks man I will. Im just happy my first indoor wasn't a bust
chee_52
chee_52week 8
Best read on GrowDiaries. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐ŸŒฟ
Ner0z
Ner0z
@chee_52, haha thanks man. If I keep writing these novellas they're going to have to change the top buttons from weeks to chapters but I like to have fun with it. Cheers mate
timbarin
timbarinweek 15
beautiful stuff!! hope you will enjoy the puff
MrJones
MrJonesweek 14
๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Hope you have an awesome weekend, Looking great, nice and healthy!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘Please Check Out My Diaries๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ
Shooey
Shooeyweek 13
Very nice Neroz๐Ÿ‘ Youโ€™re on track for a bumper harvest mate!