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First Grow, DWC NightOwl Heartbreaker

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Germination
4 years ago
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.33 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 0.33 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.33 mll
First grow! Doing two plants in their own 5 gallon bucket. After germinating in water, I'm putting directly in rapid rooters and into the bubble buckets. Buckets have 1.25mL of flora trio mix per gallon, plus hydroguard. Data: PH - 5.8 PPM - 250 Temp - (Aiming for) 77F Humidity - (aiming for) 70% after sprouting
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Week 1. Vegetation
4 years ago
24 hrs
23 °C
5.9
No Smell
300 PPM
80 %
21 °C
22 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 4
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.33 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 0.33 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.33 mll
3/9/21: They both popped up this morning!! Slightly more than 72 hours from germination, and I was a very nervous parent wanting to check on them all the time and make sure I didn't overwater. I'll remove the humidity dome once they establish themselves fully upright. The journey begins!! 3/10/21: Added 2 new photos. Already learned my first lesson! I didn't lower the humidifier after the seeds popped up (it was still around 85%), and I thought I was being careful watering by only using a needle dropper, but apparently, that was still too much and these rapid rooters retain a lot. I took the rapid rooters out and squeezed the excess water. Also, I forgot to take a pic but there was a single, healthy root popping out of the bottom of both rapid rooters! I placed the rapid rooters back, lowered the humidity to 65%, turned the light brightness from 30% to 60%, and tried to give enough room between the water spashing, the hydroton, and the rapid rooter bottom to give enough oxygen in the beginning. I plan to lower the water once the roots extend more. I will check back in several hours to see if this has helped the droopiness. The true leaves are starting to come out for both as well! PH - 5.8 PPM - 250 Temp - 72 Humidity - 85% 3/11/21: Added 2 new photos. One true leaf came out a bit twisted (I'm thinking b/c of the previous humidity issue), but looks like I was able to fix the other one in time. Still no tap root popping out of the net pot yet. I added like 2ml (maybe) to each of them since I still think the rapid rooters are probably moist. PPM jumped a bit to 350, but I think I'll leave the water how it is for now, and see how they do once the taproot actually extends. Water level is just barely touching the netpot and bubbles SHOULD be hitting the bottom of the rapid rooter. PH - 5.88 PPM - 320 Temp - 72 Humidity - 70% 3/12/21: Not really much development today. First set of true leaves are getting slightly bigger, but that's pretty much it. Got a new crazy air stone that fill the entire bucket with bubbles. I'm soaking it in water overnight and will look at swapping it in tomorrow. Also, I ordered another air pump as backup, and may think about running both at the same time -- is there such a thing as too many bubbles? Also, I'm going to add a vid cam so I stop going to peek in the tent every hour -- cannabis isn't addictive, but growing it certainly is! 3/13/21: Still not too much development today. True leaves still getting bigger. There is the smallest hint of new leaves coming up in the middle of both plants, so that's a good sign. I set up a baby cam (a la Wyze cams), so I stop peeking in the tent so frequently lol It's working, but now I look at the cam all the time haha The nice thing is I can leave it displayed on a large monitor so it's like I'm in the tent. Still no tap root poking through the netpot yet. I'll check again before I go to bed tonight. Trying to maintain optimal VPD conditions right now for seedlings with the 75-80% RH and 72-73 degrees. 3/15/21: Alright y'all, it's one of the milestones we've been waiting for....ROOTS!! Finally roots are showing out the bottom of both girls. I let out an audible gasp when I saw haha Helen, of course, has a bit more that have stretched further into the res, while Heather is just poking a couple out. I did a metric check and everything is way off, so I'm going to do a full res change in a bit since they are finally touching the water now. I realize how silly it was of me to fill the res up in the first place, but this is my first grow, and a lesson was learned. I've also been doing a lot of research on VPD to try and optimize the Temp/RH. After re-mixing each res, I'm now at the following: PH - 5.85 (close enough) PPM - 500-550 Temp - 74 Humidity - 68%
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Week 2. Vegetation
4 years ago
24 hrs
23 °C
5.9
400 PPM
75 %
19 °C
23 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 7
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.132 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 1.321 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.66 mll
3/16: First week officially complete, and on to week 2! Did a res change yesterday and today the pH was off and the ppm from yesterday was pretty high (500ish), so I took about 2 gallons from each bucket out, added 2 gallons of distilled water (note to self: water distiller already paying off), and then pH down until each one was around 5.8. ppm on each was still higher than I'd like, but I'll keep checking and see how the girls take to it. At least 5 or more healthy roots popping out of the bottom of each net pot. For the tech people out there, I now have my Wyze cam using RTSP and sending all video feed to my Synology NAS, which is running Surveillance Station. I just set it up to take a pic every day, so that I can hopefully create a cool timelapse thing. For now, I put up pic one. I won't put up every day unless there's some serious growth. I expect the pH values to rise slowly over the week, and I'll adjust the ppm depending on the leaves. Heather (top if looking at cam pic) 423 ppm 5.67 pH Helen (bottom if looking at cam pic) 375 ppm 5.74 pH air temp: 74F leaf temp: ~70 RH: 69.5% VPD (leaf): .53 kPa 3/17 - not too much development today. metrics are pretty much the same as well. I added 2 SensorPush sensors to better track VPD. So far, I'm loving them! 3/18 - showing super-fast growth now that the roots have hit the water! Second set of true leaves are looking good, and I can see the 3rd about to poke out. Roots on both look healthy. 3/19 - measured all the typical stats in my handwritten notebook but too lazy to add here for now. They're both drinking a lot of nutes, so I may need to add a bit more for the next res recycle. Both roots have tripled in size since 3/17 (see pics). The leaves are also starting to develop quicker now that the roots are in the res. everything is going pretty swell so far 3/20 - Heather is now growing slightly faster, more vigorous than Helen (see pics)! I increased the light intensity from 50% to 65%. I plan to increase to 75% once the next node appears, and after I make sure that 65% isn't overkill. The roots on both are incredible! I love this aspect of DWC! They are starting to get "hairy" as well, maybe thanks to the rapid start? I'm not seeing any obvious deficiencies or issues so far! I'm averaging slightly less than 1 kPa for VPD for both plants. Based on the ppm/pH info below and what was initially put in, it looks like I may have put slightly too many nutes in, but not by too much. I will probably stick with my schedule for now unless I notice any issues. Heather: 441 ppm 6.0 pH Helen: 389 ppm 5.93 pH 3/22 - Getting to the end of the second week and pH and ppm are still looking good/consistent, so I'm going to hold off on a res change. Added two pics to show how the growth is taking off. Heather still pulling ahead of Helen! Light intensity at 70% now since they have taken well to the previous increase.
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Week 3. Vegetation
4 years ago
10.16 cm
24 hrs
25 °C
5.9
Weak
400 PPM
60 %
21 °C
24 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 7
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.264 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 1.321 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.66 mll
3/23 - start of week 3! (aka day 15 since sprout). The girls are looking happy, so I'm not changing anything just yet. They are still drinking an equal portion of nutes to water, and the pH has remained right where I want it. Increasing the light intensity has added a few more degrees to the tent, but well within the desired range. It has been difficult to maintain the desired VPD as this implies a consistently high RH %, and I'm worried that keeping my RH % higher than 75% will cause issues. Roots on both plants are super vigorous and healthy! They are loving the aeration of these bucket air stones! Potentially doing some LST later this week, depending on how quick the growth is Heather: 450 ppm 5.95 pH Helen: 385 ppm 5.89 pH 3/25 - Ok, we have our first deficiency/issue! I'm not 100% sure what happened, but I'm suspecting it was due to one of the following: potentially too much water in the buckets (not enough gap between the netpot and water) and not enough nutes. This is causing slight curling at the tips and droopiness in the leaves, although they still look a healthy green. I did a full res change today. I lowered the water level a bit, and upped the ppm on both, so hopefully, that will take care of both issues. I also got really neurotic about VPD and flipped the tent around so that the humidifier is in a different position to more evenly disperse the vapor. I'm currently re-calibrating both sensors as well since they were pretty different results for being 2 feet away. Since I changed the tent around (including the camera to not get in the way), the continuity of the timelapse will be...interesting haha *** res change day *** pre-res change> Heather: 416 ppm 6.25 pH 71.4 F water temp Helen; 354 ppm 6.31 pH 70.3 F water temp post res-change> Heather: 568 ppm 5.75 pH 58.1 Fwater temp (will rise quickly) Helen; 568 ppm 5.75 pH 57.2 F water temp 3/26 - Posted a question earlier b/c the girls were still not improving after the res change, and actually look a bit worse. Going to trust the advice of the veterans and chalk it up to growing pains. The roots on both girls still look white and healthy and there are even new roots popping out of the netpot still. Just seems like she isn't elongating more, but perhaps that's just the indica bushiness. I took a reading tonght and the ppm is noticeably higher on both at ~ 650 ppm, and the pH has crept up to 6. The temp is already back to 69/70 as expected, but the insulation helps keep it there. I'm replacing some res water with some pHed distilled water to try and lower ppm a bit. Crossing my fingers that I'm just going to wake up tomorrow to some better growth. Lights are at 75% intensity now, still the same distance away from when I started. *after replacing ~.5 gal in each res bucket with .5 gal of pHed distilled water * Heather: 531 ppm 5.94 pH 68.3 F water temp Helen: 588 ppm 5.88 pH 69.3 water temp 3/27 - Unfortunately, the deficiency still seems to be setting in, and I'm not sure what the issue is. All the symptoms seem like root rot, but I feel like I'm doing all the right things: res is at least 1-2" below bottom of netpot, strong air stone with 10W air pump, hydroguard, insulation around bucket to block light, water res at 70F....what am I missing here? I'm going to post a new grow question now that the symptoms are more pronounced, so there will be pics showing the splotching on the leaves. There are still healthy new white roots being developed so I'm really confused why the plant seems stunted, and leaves are drooping and curling. The ppms and pH are the same from the other night which is a good sign (I think). 3/28 - Alright, I think we're making some progress now - at least, they're not appearing worse. The challenge is, there were likely several issues, and a lot of these issues have similar symptoms, so we'll never know for sure. I think it was a combination of the air stone bubbles soaking the rapid rooter medium and causing the drowning-like symptoms, cal-mag issues (evident on the splotches on the lower leaves where they were rubbing against the pot), and "potentially" no sleep! I asked a couple of questions here and Reddit, and I'm going to try a 20/4 or 18/6 light cycle for now, which was suggested by several experienced growers. I think it's crazy that it's 2021 and we don't know for sure what is the optimal light cycle for autos, but I suppose the genetics of every plant are slightly different, and it's hard to be exact. Crossing my fingers that this allows them time to recover and start strecthing. While the leaves seem to be the right size, there is zero stretching (probably from the 'drowning'), and it's going to be an issue later if they're all blocking light. ppm and pH looks good from the other day though! I know some think the nutes are high, but the plants are telling me it's working based on the day-to-day differentials. Heather: 552 ppm 6.03 pH 71.2 Fwater temp (hoping Hydroguard helps so I don't need to decrease temp) Helen: 569 ppm 6.04 pH 70.5 F water temp 3/29 - What a day, where to start. The ladies are looking much, MUCH better. They are actually drinking a lot of nutes! I may need to increase even more next res change. I added 2mL of hydroguard to each res...just because. The root system in both are looking healthy, but the gap between the res and the netpot might be too large now (~5 inches). I'm considering running 2 air stones. Also, (see pics) I felt like the new growth from the top was sufficient to start LST, so I did. Helen took it a lot easier, as Heather's stalk is already starting to firm up, so I didn't want to push anything. I'll likely have to readjust this at some point, but it's a start. I actually didn't realize how many new growth sites were happening underneath all these bushy leaves. I'm sticking with the 20/4 light cycle for now. Heather: 494 ppm (someone was thirsty!) 6.01 pH 69.9 F water temp Helen: 518 ppm (also thirsty!) 5.99 pH 69.2 F water temp 3/30 - Ladies are looking great and spreading out thanks to some leaf tucking and LST on the main branch on both. I may need to do another one tomorrow. I am preparing for not only a res change but a bucket change tomorrow (see pics). I have *NO* idea how I missed this idea, but I am convinced this is the best way to do DWC sans a real water chiller, which just seems excessive unless I'm doing legit rDWC (which I'm not...yet). DWCooler is the way to go, and I don't know why more people aren't doing this vs. the generic 5 gallon bucket + insulation (like myself). Anyway, hopefully, this will help spread the word. The ppm and pH is still in check, so I'll be continuing with my nute schedule and going into the transition week feeding. Tomorrow will officially start week 4! Expect more pics once I get the ladies in their new homes. The cooler water will give more oxygen and Helen needs it. Who would have thought in week 1 that she would be the problem child? Clearly, I'm excited by this new transition to DWC greatness. Heather: 481 ppm 6.07 pH 71.2 F water temp Helen: 516 ppm 6.02 pH 70.7 F water temp Thanks for following 🤙 Always, appreciative of tips or suggestions
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MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountstarted grow question 4 years ago
They look overwatered, but this is DWC and I'm not top-feeding. Not sure what is going on as the leaves, themselves, look a healthy color. Pics from 3/25 show this, and I have detailed info in my diary. I have tried dropping humidity down (was keeping up for VPD). Thanks
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Leaves. Curl down
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Ganjagrandaddy
Ganjagrandaddyanswered grow question 4 years ago
dont panic at alol. those roots look great so thats a good sign. if the strain has an inica lean then the leave can be like cabbage leaves sometimes. they take a lot to hold up in the warm air too. all looks good from here buddy. roots will keep you posted. below will go 1st and the tops will be behind in time with resonding so keep those roots happy an the rest will be good. you have all the right stuff in there and hydroguard will keep the res happy too. good luck
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountstarted grow question 4 years ago
Unfortunately, I can only write so much here, but I have a lot more details in my grow diary. The droopiness started about 3-4 days ago, but now has started showing deficiencies in the leaves, and plants seem stunted on height. Day 19 since sprout.
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Leaves. Curl down
Leaves. Color - Mottling
Plant. Too short
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
Two things come to mind... 1) nutrients too strong and 2) the biggie, 24 hour light! Your poor baby plants are simply exhausted. Nothing on Planet Earth has ever evolved to live in constant state of activity and without some sort of "sleep" every 24 hours. Changing to an optimum lighting schedule for all cannabis plants, autos or photoperiod plants in veg, of 18/6 will see them recover and return to full health once again. Your plants will grow faster, healthier and stronger at 18/6 than at 24/0 due to the fact they are getting the "sleep" they need for a healthy and balanced metabolism. 24 hour light can only be recommended by people who either don't care about their plants or do not understand the basics of how plants function and grow. Part of a plants functioning is "sleep", without it a plant will go haywire waiting endlessly for a rest that will never come. This is bordering on plant cruelty, but is never too late to change to a normal and healthy 18/6 light dark schedule. I like to think of the 6 hours of "sleep" as 2 hours to recover from the day, 2 hours to rest and 2 hours to get ready for the day ahead and this is basically what occurs during the dark cycle. Sleep deprivation is a common torture technique for good reason, it drives people nuts, no doubt your little plants feel the same! Besides, cannabis can only grow so much during any 24 hour hour period and this growth tops out at about 18 hours, meaning running your lights any longer than 18 hours is basically a waste of electricity. The 18/6 light dark schedule has been derived at through over 80 years of dedicated cannabis research and is not a random number, but a scientific fact. Treat your plants to the sleep they NEED and everything should go back on track with normal growth and a natural circadian rhythm. Lord knows every living thing needs one. The small blotches at the end of the leaves are damage caused by the leaves hitting the side of the pot repeatedly when the fans blow on them and is of little consequence. Also, make sure your nutrient solution is not getting too warm, this can cause your plants to droop as well. Hope this helps, and help your plants, they NEED "sleepy time"! Cheers,............ Organoman.
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Week 4. Vegetation
4 years ago
15.24 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Weak
600 PPM
57 %
16 °C
21 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 7
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.396 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 1.321 mll
3/31 - Very excited for the next iteration of my DWC setup, DWCooler! This is better in every way and should help with the problems I was having earlier. I'm able to fill the buckets more without splashing the rapid rooter, and the colder water will retain more oxygen. Everything fits and looks great in this tinkers' opinion. I'm upping the nutes for the transition week (guessing) and pushing the ladies hard at 575-650 ppm to start. We'll see how that goes! I also upgraded one of my pole fans to an oscillating tower fan. Roots on both ladies are looking healthy and LARGE! Heather: (will add tomorrow) 668 ppm (going aggressive) 5.79 pH (reminder to self to always do 5.7 and let it rise up to 5.8 the next day) Helen: 649 ppm 5.8 pH 3/31 (bonus update!) - ok, had to update. I think I am seeing the first signs of pre-flowering on Heather (see pics). Super cool. That is all. 4/1 - Everything flowered overnight!! ... April Fools! (I almost went a darker route, but did not want to jinx myself!) Ladies seem to be taking well to their new homes and the increased nute/ppm ratio. I've had to do more leaf tucking and training. I can see this becoming a frequent thing until they start stretching out a bit more. Cooler is definitely doing it's thang and the water temps are right where I want them. More pistils are popping out, but Heather's are much more pronounced! Increased light to 85% since they are beginning to flower. Distance from the canopy is about 18" (following Mars Hydro guidelines). I plan to keep increasing the light slowly up every day (assuming things are looking good). The light intensity is definitely increasing the tent temperature. I don't even have the carbon filter in yet, so the fan will have to pull a bit harder. The fan is around 80% probably. I have my tent in my cool basement utility room on the floor...how are other people keeping their tent under 82F when in flower? Heather: 692 ppm (not the direction I wanted but I'm going to leave it as it is for now, and check tomorrow) 5.89 pH 62.6 F water temp Helen: 640 ppm (go Helen!) 5.91 pH 62.6 F water temp 4/2 - Holy growth batman! Heather is popping off! New bud sites and leaves all over the place. I had to do so much leaf tucking and training to try to optimize everything because she's so short as it is. Definitely starting to stretch a bit though! They are both not doing the best on nute ratio, I think I may have to add a bit of phed distilled water, but I'll probably hold off one more day. Definitely starting to notice a faint lemon citrus smell! There's even a couple buds starting to form on the inner nodes, but it's hard to get a pic of. I know they're still droopy with nitrogen excess (i'll have to dial that back next res change), but I'm pretty proud of where things are! 4/4 - Ok, I've been bad at updating the ph,ppm stuff here, but I am tracking in a notepad! I added about 3/4 gallon of pHed distilled water to each res the other night to reduce ppm a bit. Seems like that has been working out well as the growth today is absolutely insane! LST is working well to space the branches out as they stretch, but this is pretty much a daily operation right now as it's still pretty bushy and stout and there are so many leaves coming out. Increased light intensity to 95%. Might go all the way to 100% tomorrow! The faint lemon citrus smell is definitely coming on a bit stronger when I open the tent. I'll need to ask around about when I should start doing some defoliating. ------ Thanks for following 🤙 Always, appreciative of tips or suggestions
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Week 5. Flowering
4 years ago
20.32 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Weak
700 PPM
50 %
18 °C
21 °C
19 L
33.02 cm
Nutrients 6
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.396 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 1.321 mll
4/6 - Well, if you've been following, then you know both ladies are already in the pre-flowering stage (Heather slightly ahead), so I guess it's official...we're in flower stage! They are drinking a decent amount now - about .5-.75 gallons in 1-2 days (I didn't measure exactly). Before, it was pretty hard to tell when teh water level was different day-to-day, but that's not the case anymore! I am leaf tucking and LSTing like crazy every day. I'm also trying my best not to defoliate anything. I've only clipped the two lower branches on Helen that had the deficiencies from the other week. I got a little lazy this week and I had some leftover undiluted res mix from 3/31, which I added back into each res. The ppm isn't as high as I want it to be, so I'll have to do a res change in the next couple days. Hopefully, this should be good for now though. Also, the cooler has been proving extremely useful this week! Temps never got above 70F even though the lights are now at 100%. Is it just me or does the tent not feel as bright now that the plants are absorbing it? *after adding back* Helen: 534 ppm 6.05 pH 66.9 F water temp Heather: 584 ppm 6.11 pH 67.2 F water temp 4/8 - Res change day! The ppm on both ladies is going below 500, so they are clearly thirsty! Did some more LST (doing every day) to try and spread them out more due to the bushiness. It's working out...better for some stems than others. There are just soooo many fan leaves poppin gup and blocking everything -- doing my best to not cut them for now, but once the buds start getting more prominent, I may cut a bit. I moved the fan so that it's in between both plants and centered the lights a bit more. I'm filling the coolers up to the 4 gallon line sine the lid gives me a few more inches. The coolers are still working out great so far. My only concern is that the root ball may get to be too big to move through the cooler lid, but i can always just keep the lid on if that's the case. *POST RES CHANGE* Helen: 725 ppm 5.8 pH 58.2 F water temp Heather: 700 ppm 5.66 pH 55.9 F water temp 4/9 - They're getting out of control! I think I'm done trying to train them out for now - the canopy is close enough! Heather is starting to get more hairs and fill in the bud sites, and Helen is not too far behind. I will definitely have to raise the lights soon. The ppms were pretty high on both ladies today (especially Heather), so I'm going to wait another day, see if they adjust to the higher level, and maybe add some distilled pH water back in to dilute a bit more. The humidity outside the tent is pretty much what I want the inside to be, so other than keeping ppms in check, things have been pretty chill so far. I snipped a few leaves on the bottom that were dying (cotyledons and a couple 3-fan leaves). Not sure that counts as defoliating 4/10 - Added a dehumidifier with inkbird humidity sensor combo to the tent, and removed the humidifier for now. With it being spring here and the plants flowering, I'm trying to remove humidity, not add it. Helen is doing well on her ppm/water ratio, but I might need to dilute Heather's res a bit (it's pretty high). I'm only seeing a slight nute burn on the tips, which is what I was aiming for, so doesn't seem to be causing any issues. Growth today doesn't look too much different than yesterday b/c of the training, but it's getting to the point where I think I want to add a trellis net soon. Adding a trellis will help the future weight of these buds and spread them out more evenly to get light, but will make refilling a bit more difficult. I do have a motorized siphon pump i'll likely use to do this, and leave the coolers/plants in the trellis. We're around the 30ish day or so and this strain has a 75-85 day estimate...hopefully the tent is big enough! 4/11 - Checked the water today, and realized the ladies have been thirstyyyy - already down 1.5 gallons since my last res change 3 days ago. I added some pHed distilled water with cal-mag to replenish the res. Also, decided to set up a trellis/Scrog b/c I can only stretch them out so much further with LST, and figured the trellis would also add some support (these are supposedly dense buds). The dehumidifier is definitely helping during lights off periods to keep the environment more stable. I also defoliated several more leaves on the bottom to give the main roots more air. Helen had a couple of cool 6-fan leaves ** after topping off ** Heather: 760 ppm 5.71 pH 68.5 F water temp Helen: 687 ppm 5.61 pH 69.6 F water temp 4/12 - I'm not sure if putting up the Scrog/trellis was motivation for the ladies, but Heather already has several stems/bud sites weaving into the screen, and Helen is not far behind. Crazy how much growth is happening now! If you've been following from the start, you know that I'm never satisfied with my setup....I. MUST. KEEP. TINKERING! At this point, the next challenge I am facing (albeit out of pure laziness) is how quickly they are drinking (at least 1/2 gallon a day). I'm planning on taking a short vacation in a month, and I wanted to set up some type of auto-top off (ATO) so that I can leave for at least a week and not worry about the res water getting too low. As usual, I spent way too much time researching, and after many, MANY solenoid valves, ATO systems, and float sensors I couldn't take it. All of those solutions had issues - the main issue being that they all had bottlenecks if the device stopped working for any reason. They were also overly complicated b/c they required flood checks, and back up checks, and backup check checks, etc. I knew there had to be an easier solution for keeping my individual cooler res' full without doing full-blown rDWC. The answer (after far too long) is gravity-fed siphoning. Here is a productized version of what I'm thinking of doing, but on a much smaller scale for an Aerogarden (which I also have, and they're awesome!) https://www.aerogarden.com/2020-aerovoir.html . Instead of a 1 gallon container though, I'm planning on using at least a 10 gallon, but I haven't figured out the best position for the tubing yet. Gravity will never fail, and this should be a good temporary solution for short trips. In other news, I moved the grow cam (yet again). They are both doing well on nutes today, with both ppms lower than yesterday. ------ Thanks for following 🤙 Always, appreciative of tips or suggestions
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Week 6. Flowering
4 years ago
73.66 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
800 PPM
50 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
Nutrients 6
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.396 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 1.321 mll
4/13 - Another week already! Did a res change today, and I need to come up with a better system/process. B/c of the setup, I had to use my electric siphon pump, but that was sucking up some of the roots as well (the root balls are huge!). The spigot the cooler comes with is handy for quick samples without disturbing the plants, but trying to empty the reservoir like that SUCKS b/c it is too slow and you have to hold it down the entire time. RDWC is becoming more and more enticing. I will likely have to start topping off instead of draining if I want to maintain the Scrog. That will probably happen anyway due to how fast they are drinking. I'm still ideating over the ATO system...it's insane how complicated hydrostatics is. It's also funny to me that growing can be as simple or as complicated as you make it...guess which camp I'm in. There is definitely a noticeable smell, but not so much that I need to put the carbon filter in yet. My SO says they smell like lemony BO 😂 * POST RES CHANGE * Heather: 860 ppm 5.78 pH 61.8 F water temp Helen: 860 ppm 5.75 pH 63.5 F water temp 4/15 - Things are going steady so far. Since they're drinking at least 1/2 gallon to 3/4 gallon a day now, I topped them off earlier with some diluted leftover nutes from 4/13. This was needed since Heather's ppm shot way up (I'm thinking it's from some of the dead roots that I wasn't able to clean yet). After adding back, the ppms are both looking good and where I want them. I'm not seeing any resin yet on the leaves. Good news everyone! I believe I have found a much simpler way to solve both my vacation and res change challenges! I'm going to set up a separate reservoir to each cooler (I've already bought 2 more igloo coolers, $22 at my local walmart), and have a pipe/tube connecting them at the bottom. The igloo cooler spigot is removable (thank god), so I don't need to make any cuts in the coolers. I'm planning on attaching a ball valve faucet instead of the spigot. At the end, it should looks something very similar to this person's setup, but with coolers: https://support.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/t/single-bucket-dwc-mods/41783 It's been a fun rabbit hole researching. I learned an insane amount about hydrostatics and did a few of my own science experiments (this was a fun one - https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/diy-gravity-auto-top-off.376602/), but in the end, I realized that the amount of trial and error to set up a gravity-fed siphon ATO is too much of a hassle, and using solenoid valves + float switches become too complex when needing to design backups if any of those fails (being in the tech field, it's a rule that things fail all the time). I also learned that DWC growing has A LOT of overlap with reef aquariums and home brewing, which I now know more about than ever. I'm planning to go to Home Depot in the next few days to start putting the extra reservoir together. It should make res changes 420% easier, and reduce the frequency of res changes by half. 4/16 - Ladies still looking pretty good (added new grow cam pic to show the tent coverage from the inside). I've weaved some of the larger stems into the trellis a bit more to give more light to the small ones in the middle. Heather's ppm keeps shooting up, but Helen is staying stable. I'm topping off later tonight with a lower dose of nutes until next week. Really excited to upgrade my system to have ball valves to make draining easier, and the extra res to make my life easier. Still no noticeable trichs or resin on the leaves yet. Can you tell I got yet another new dehumidifier? I think this is the one! 4/19 - Things have been going well so far. Ladies are still drinking a crazy amount every day, and I just added some more back (light nute dosage until the next round). The growth through the trellis has been pretty incredible. It's funny to think how nervous I was just a couple weeks ago when I thought I stunted them early on. The flowering stretch is REAL! I did a good amount of defoliation today on both plants (see pics). I removed about 1/3rd (probably less) of the lower fan leaves, and some of the lower bud sites that I could see would not be able to develop due to the canopy blocking the light. I probably should have been doing this a bit earlier on, but you live and you learn! Hopefully, the parts come soon so I can take it easy on mixing nutes every few days! ------ Thanks for following 🤙 Always, appreciative of tips or suggestions
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7
Week 7. Flowering
4 years ago
83.82 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
600 PPM
50 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
Nutrients 6
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.396 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 1.321 mll
4/20 - Happy 420 y'all! Fun fact is I had 420 views of my grow diary today (see pic!) The stars have aligned, and I'm starting to see trichomes on Heather, especially on the lower buds! I did a good amount of defoliating again today (I will be taking it easy until they recover) to remove the unnecessary fan leaves and larfy stems that were not going to make it to the canopy. I'm leaving a couple on just to see what happens - I can always press into rosin! Last night I added the carbon filter, and I had no idea how much they were actually smelling up the house lol With the carbon filter, I don't smell anything until the tent is opened - pretty insane! I'm excited to watch these buds stack and fill in with frost! Hopefully next year I'll be celebrating 420 from my own grow. The smell is still pretty similar to before, but I am noticing a hint of pine now. Someone on Reddit mentioned a smell similar to Jack Herer, and I'm starting to get that as well. Heather: 710 ppm 5.75 pH 69.4 F water temp Helen: 630 ppm 5.74 pH 68.7 F water temp 4/22 - Alright y'all, it was a stressful day. I did something you probably shouldn't do to autos, but my tinkering-ADD kicked into overdrive. As I mentioned last week, I am upgrading my coolers to have ball valves instead of spigots (for easy drainage and flow) and a reservoir so that I never have to deal with difficult res changes ever again (and also less frequent nute mixing...did I mention how much I hate pHing?). Well, I've completed about 75% of the setup (see sneak peek pics), and with the help of my SO, surgically extracted the roots and air stone from the existing coolers (with sanitized gloves, of course), and delicately placed them in their new upgraded homes. I then added a fresh mix of nutes. I'm still waiting on the hose clamps before I add the reservoirs, but I'm happy with how the exchange went! In the last several days, Heather has been wanting less nutes (maybe due to stress from the defoliation?), so I scaled back the ppm to ~600. For Helen, we had a slight pH creep the other day, but I've diluted the mix with some lower pHed solution to bring it slightly below 6.5 -- I'll check it again tomorrow to see if I need to replace more. I am going to give both of them some well-deserved rest (from myself). Ok, now on to the flowers! They're all starting to get more trichomes, especially the lowers. The bigger colas are starting to connect their buds on the top. They are STILL STRETCHING...and they need to stop because my lights won't go up any higher haha (no, but seriously) The smell...ohhh, the smell. The carbon filter is working extremely well - outside the tent, I can't smell a thing, but the second you crack the zippers open, a heavy waft of lemony musk rushes at you. The sweetness and pine I smelled in my previous entry are only with the trichomes. I am beyond excited to see how the terpenes develop, and how different they will be post-cure! I'll update the plant metrics tomorrow, as well as updated pics of the improved setup! 4/24 - Added new pics showing the trichs coming in (especially in the lower bud sites), and Helen continuing to stretch (stop it Helen, you're beautiful just the way you are!). You can see in the new tent pic that the DWCoolers v4.20 is installed and working well (no leaks so far 🤞). I am having a hell of a time stretching the tubing around the female camlock (type B with threads if you have any idea what I'm talking about), and I just ordered a bunch of different things. One of them WILL work, and that's the one I'll share haha One thing is for sure, I appreciate the hell out of RDWC systems waaaaay more, and I'm less inclined to make one. Not much else to update, pH and ppms are pretty close to the previous days. The ppm is slowly creeping up, and I'm going to attribute that to the stress of the move. I promise I haven't messed with them since! ------ Thanks for following 🤙 Always appreciative of tips or suggestions
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8
Week 8. Flowering
4 years ago
83.82 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Strong
550 PPM
50 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
Nutrients 6
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.396 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.66 mll
4/28 - Looks like a missed a few days, but I'm back at it! The ladies have been keeping me busy! There were a few pH swings on each plant (in the opposite directions...), and I have no idea what caused it. It was not the easiest to get them in check. I've also been having one hell of a time waterproofing the additional res coolers for some reason, but I just put some silicone caulk on them today to fix these tiny leaks once and for all! The frost factor is coming in big time (see pics), and it's getting hard to take a pic of these ladies. One strange thing is that while they are drinking a lot of water, but they are not drinking as many nutes (~500 ppm or so), and I'm not sure why. It's possible that they're still stressed a bit from the move into the coolers? I've been lowering the ppm until I see them wanting more. I have a new challenge y'all -- humidity! Spring time is here in full effect and the humidity where I live is no joke. I have a 70 pint dehumidifier running right outside the tent, and a smaller one inside (that I am looking to upgrade), but the inside of the tent still gets up to 60% RH. I am getting very scared of potential bud rot. My ideas: I may have to leave the main zipper door to the tent open and put a mosquito net to block bugs. I'm not a huge fan of this idea b/c it is reeking up my house when I do that, but I also don't want mold. The second idea is a larger dehumidifier in the tent or even a 3rd one outside?! 4/30 - I did it y'all, I finally connected those freaking coolers! The silicone caulk I used fixed all my tiny leaks! I went ahead and connected them, and filled in 9 gallons of fresh nutes. I am looking SOOO forward to never having to mess with the main coolers anymore and just dealing with the external reservoirs. There's a couple of leaves directly under the light on Helen that have some slight cal-mag spots, but the majority of the leaves are looking good. Now that this upgrade is done, the next challenge is public enemy #1 - humidity! We still have another 4-5 days until the new dehumidifier gets here, so I'll be keeping the tent open with the mosquito net that's coming tomorrow until then. My house is about to smell funky. 5/1 - The extra coolers are working out exactly as expected so far (knock on wood)! I added some more pics of the full tent in all its glory. The flowers are starting to get a little denser, but still not stacking completely yet. I'm starting to see the first stigmas turning orange/brown (from white). Looking (immensely) forward to not having to refill these coolers for at least 5 days! Humidity is my only remaining battle (that I know of)! ** post res change ** Heather: 521 ppm 5.96 pH 62.7 F water temp Helen: 549 ppm 5.86 pH 66.3 F water temp 5/2 - Everything's still good from yesterday! pH and ppm are right in line, which means the ratio is solid. The mosquito net seems to be working out for now...good to know I've always got that as a backup if the new humidifier can't do the same with the tent closed. I did a decent amount of defoliation today to help more with humidity, airflow, and light exposure. I feel like I'm in Ocean's 11 doing lazer dodges to cut these stems, but it is also quite meditative to scan all the parts of the plant and "operation" (like the game) myself in. I probably shouldn't be teasing this until I have some pics to post, but I'm starting to notice some purpling on Helen! There are a couple of colas where the stigmas have started showing a purple hue and the fan leaves have started purpling as well...stay tuned! 5/3 - puprling pics added! ------ Thanks for following 🤙 Always appreciative of tips or suggestions
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9
Week 9. Flowering
4 years ago
83.82 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6
Strong
550 PPM
40 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
Nutrients 6
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 0.396 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.66 mll
5/4 - May the 4th be with you, and with my ladies! I added (A LOT of) pics, and I SINCERELY tried to take a macro shot, but my shaky hands and the fans swaying the buds made that almost impossible. They're pretty much all glassy looking from what I can see, some maybe turning to cloudy. It's been so great having these ladies on auto-pilot since I added the res. My mind is completely at ease for my upcoming trip. I think I'll need to start bumping up the ppms pretty soon! 5/6 - Added some new pics, better macro pics! Lots of glassy trichs with some milky ones. Honestly, did not expect that around day 58, but then again, I didn't really know what to expect at all other than the strain-description (75-85 days). The smell is still very much piney, it's like a musk forest in my utility room...and other parts of my house. Sooo...funny story about the new dehumidifier which arrived the other day. It did the trick and brought the RH % down to 35-40%....but it also caused the tent temperature to reach 85+ degrees. So, I'm leaving the tent open still for now, with the mosquito net on, and I just ordered a 6-inch Infinity AC fan (instead of my 4-inch generic Mars Hydro one that came with the tent kit), and hoping that should do the trick. I needed another fan anyway since I bought a second tent (can't remember if I wrote that) for perpetual growing, so the 4-inch can go in the sprout/veg tent. I've been starting to think more about harvesting (waiting for a couple of amber trichs). I'm planning on doing a mostly dry trim other than the big easy-to-trim fan leaves, which I'll freeze for dry sifting later. I have several large micron screens that I planned to do the trimming on (whenever the buds eventually dry). Based on my current schedule though, it's very likely that these ladies are getting the chop on 5/16 or 5/20 (my prediction)! Time has flown by and I can't believe it's just another month until I'll have some decently cured, and ready to use harvest! 5/9 (but really 5/10 at 1am) - It's been a min since I updated this post, so I had to throw up some more macro pics and a shot of the lady's main colas. As you can see, they are getting fat, and stacking up nicely, but they're not the densest (at least not lower nugs that I touched). I clipped a tester nug on 5/7 and it still needs to dry a bit more before it cures. I will add pics once it's done drying and I clip off the leaves. I am beyond stoked to try the first nug of my first grow!!! It's a mix of glassy/cloudy trichs, but I think it will be cool to understand how different the high is as the plant matures. I'm also starting to realize how difficult it is to "time" these things in terms of harvesting/flushing. I am planning to flush, but not b/c of the "science" behind flushing. I've read the study that said there's no difference, so I figure why not save a weeks worth of nutes and effort of mixing. Here's my question for anyone reading -- when flushing in DWC, does it matter if you pH the RO/distilled water? My intuition tells me no because you are already trying to remove nutrients, and lock the plants out, but curious what others think. I will likely siphon as much water as I can tomorrow and replace it with regular tap water to help the fade. At this point, my harvest prediction from the other post is still looking pretty accurate since I'm not seeing any ambers on the main colas. ------ Thanks for following 🤙 Always appreciative of tips or suggestions
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10
Week 10. Flowering
4 years ago
83.82 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6
Strong
100 PPM
40 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
Nutrients 1
Hydroguard - Botanicare
Hydroguard 0.528 mll
5/11 - Started the "flush" this week! Making it as easy as possible on myself and just using straight tap water to fill the res', and guess what?! I installed the new AC Infinity 6" in-line fan, and it's finally allowing me to keep the tent closed while maintaining an optimal environment. Smell begone!...until I open the tent, that is. The tester nug I clipped from the other week is losing the hay smell, and looking like the frostiest bud I've ever seen. Everything is looking like a 5/16 harvest! Do I seem excited?! I am!! I'll add some pics later today when the lighting is better. Funny how I now have the optimal setup with only a week left to go. Excited to utilize it for the next round though! 5/16 - Y'ALL!!....Y'ALL!!!!!! Attention, please! I have a very important announcement. It is time for Helen to go on to the next life. To commemorate this historic and paramount moment, I am uploading my first video and some amazing (iPhone) pictures (if I do say so myself). As a first-time grower, but loooooonng time cannabis enthusiast/consumer, I still cannot believe I grew this amazing plant. In fact, I am now writing this entry after having vaped part of the tester bud, and let me tell you, I almost cried tears of happiness after the high sank in -- it's phenomenal. The taste has a hint of lemon, lime, earthiness, dominant pine, with a menthol exhale. The effect is very cerebral (as expected for an early harvest), but relaxing. I feel a wave of calmness flow down my body and a nice pressure around my eyes and sinus (which is usually stuffed). I hope she doesn't mind me sharing, but I thought it was touching (and humorous) that my gf legitimately started crying when I told her it was Helen's time. It's ok, she will be remembered and honored over the next several months, and ages to come. ---- Thanks for following 🤙 Always appreciative of tips or suggestions
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Week 11. Flowering
4 years ago
83.82 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6
Strong
100 PPM
40 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
5/21 - Ok, y'all. It's been a week since I updated b/c I've been on vacation, but I got some big, BIG udpates! First, Helen was officially chopped on 5/16, and is currently hanging to dry in another tent at 65F (coldest I can get the room without freezing in my own home lol) and 55-60% RH. Just checked a couple moments ago, and the stems are still pliable, so the slow dry is going well. Smells like funky, gassy hay right now, but hoping that will pass after dry/cure. The buds have shrunk quite a bit, but holy shit are they frosty (easily the frostiest bud I've ever seen). Also, when I was clipping off the bigger fan leaves when harvesting, I accidentally clipped a couple nugs off, which I just pressed into rosin last night, and.....WOW....just WOW. A single tear of happiness emerged and I sat back in my chair embraced in a warm glow of awesomeness. Just to clarify, these were not top buds, and I added a bit of larf, and I got the best rosin yield I've ever gotten - 26%! I cannot wait to press the larger buds and see what kind of product I get....especially excited for the dry sift rosin!!!!!! I added new pics of Heather who is displaying a beautiful autumn fade. I will wait to post harvest pics until it's trimmed and weighed. I'll have to check Heather's trichs later, but she's still looking like she needs a few days. My excitedness is peaking, and I still cannot believe I'm here. Over a decade ago, I would never have even dreamed this was possible. ---- Thanks for following 🤙 Always appreciative of tips or suggestions
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Week 11. Harvest
4 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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HELEN was officially trimmed and weighed on 5/23/21 WOWWWWWWWW!!!!! Unbelievable!!! Ineffable (my favorite word)!!! My jaw has been on the floor since last night y'all....this is easily, the frostiest looking flower I have ever seen in my entire life, and I have more than I've ever had in my entire life. It's liberating that I KNOW I never need to go to a dispensary or a dealer or any other subpar method to get the quality medicine I've been looking for! It smells like sweet earthy, diesly lemons, and the high is a combination of body relaxation with an uplifting, calming head buzz. I feel like I can do anything with this strain, which is good because I'm gonna have it for a while lol She took about 3 hours to trim with a friend. Last night I also made dry sift hash rosin for the first time using the sift collected from trimming (I haven't even done the actual sifting part yet), and I got about 3.5-4grams of high quality sift. I pressed 2.7 grams and got 2 grams back (72% yield!!!) and I felt like I was high for the first time...it was truly an amazing experience. A night full of firsts. Here's the breakdown of the dry weight: 118 grams of larf + 83g of premium shit + 10g from previous rosin pressing = 211g of holy shit I can't believe I grew this ------------ HEATHER was officially trimmed and weighed on 6/3/21 Can I copy/paste most of the above? I'm still in awe and disbelief of these incredible genetics, and it's so cool to see the variation between strains. While Helen has now become a more earthy, OG dominant smell after the cure, Heather smells and tastes like a lemonhead candy (hint of pine). The bud structure is very different, denser (which makes sense b/c it had an extra 8 days) and sticky as hell, like touching pine cones sticky. At first glance, it doesn't look as frosty as Helen, but she is packed with trichs and super, super resinous. I haven't pressed with her yet, other than some of the best dry sift hash rosin I've ever seen (see pics), but I imagine she'll deliver just as well, if not better than Helen. I prefer the taste of Heather much better. The limonene is clearly there, and uplifting, but it's super stoney as well. I'll have to give it some more cure time before I give it a proper review, but needless to say, I'm excited. Breakdown of dry weight: 143 grams of larf + 100g of premium shit = 243 of holy shit, I can't believe I've done it...again! Lessons Learned: - will add when I'm less medicated (I promise I'll still do this)
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Spent 86 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
227.5 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
14.63
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Normal
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Positive effects
Euphoric, Relaxed, Uplifted
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Dry mouth
Negative effects
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Citrus, Diesel, Earthy
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Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
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This was so much fun, and I cannot wait to start another grow! Heartbreaker took well to training and exploded in DWC! Now, that I know how much larf was produced, I will definitely be defoliating A LOT more, removing all the lower bud sites below the trellis, and trying to fatten up the main colas. I also want to try topping next time, especially based on the growth of DWC. I am so glad to have 3 more seeds of this beauty, and there's still another waiting to be chopped. The rosin yields have been the highest I've ever pressed, and the buds are oozing in resin. If you told me I was going to yield a lb in the beginning, I would have laughed, but the bar has been set....and it's high...very, very high 🤙
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Week 12. Flowering
4 years ago
83.82 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6
Strong
100 PPM
40 %
18 °C
18 °C
19 L
30.48 cm
5/25 - Last entry just for completeness since she was technically still alive and kicking on this day. Added a bunch of pics and a vid prior to her chop, which was the night of 5/26 (pics for that will come after she's trimmed). I think she might yield even more than Helen, but we'll see. I can't say enough how fun this entire process has been, and I'm already feeling like an empty-nester without them. Definitely planning to start another grow (Mephisto Double Grape! and maybe another??) in a few weeks, but also thinking of adding additional electricity/outlets first. Not too much else to say here since I haven't been checking pH/ppm since I started "flushing" (my least favorite part of growing lol). I'm drying out a Heather tester bud I accidentally clipped when chopping her, and I'm excited to compare the effects to Helen (which I have been enjoying immensely!!)
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StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 64 years ago
Your plants look lovely. Sorry to hear about your rez change issues - I know first-hand it can be a pain when you ScrOG with DWC. I'm currently using a battery powered transfer pump that works really well - I haven't had significant issues with it sucking up roots; it's a stick styled pump and as long as I get it situated so it's sitting at the bottom of the bucket all is good. All the best with the rest of your grow 👍
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@StunFlower, thanks! I'm hoping it works out as well as I think it will. My plan is to add camlocks (very similar to this person's setup https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-Mash-Tun-for-Brewing-All-grain-Beer/ ) to make detaching super easy. It's not the cheapest solution, but I don't mind paying more for quality and convenience. Just ordered the parts from the same place in that article, so hopefully should be able to get things set up in the next week or two. Stay tuned!
StunFlower
StunFlowercommented4 years ago
@MyWeedAccount, Your reservoir solution looks intriguing. I'll be watching that with interest. The vacation challenge is real - I'm still a slave to my buckets; I have to schedule getaways between runs 😂
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@StunFlower, thanks friend! It was probably a bit ambitious of me to try ScrOG with DWC for my first grow, but I was just too excited to try all the techniques haha The good news is that I think I've come up with a simple solution to both my res change and vacation challenge -- I bought two more 5-gallon coolers, and I'm going to set them up as a reservoir for each DWC bucket (still DWC, not recirculating...yet). Very similar to this guy's build: https://support.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/t/single-bucket-dwc-mods/41783. Cheers!
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 114 years ago
Happy Flowering @MyWeedAccount
Waylate
Waylatecommentedweek 74 years ago
Ace grow to you
y0shimitsu
y0shimitsucommentedweek 74 years ago
Great job man 🙌🏻 thanks for sharing 🙏🏻 enjoy 💚🌱
Waylate
Waylatecommentedweek 84 years ago
Looks awesome your doing a real good job
Waylate
Waylatecommented4 years ago
@MyWeedAccount, thank you and all the best to you
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@@Waylate, thanks 🙏 !! I saw you just started a new grow, all the best!
steadfast_grower
steadfast_growercommentedweek 84 years ago
Nice job on the camlocks. A couple of quick thoughts: I use NPT to barbed connections on my RDWC drain lines. Maybe an NPT to barbed fitting would help. I'm sure the brewing industry may have something if type b to barbed fitting is available. Then you could just run your drain hose to a shower or sink drain. Another thought about sealing any leaks, check out Aquaseal which a flexible premium silicone product. You can grab a big tube of it off ebay for about 20 bucks and is commonly used for marine and fishing applications. PPM: It was hard to tell from the wording if they were eating 500pms a week or staying at 500pm. If PPMs stay the same and the water is dropping, I'd say they are eating and drinking at the same rate which is ideal. Mine are eating 100pms per day and I am now trying to increase nutrients until they level out and eat/drink at same rate. Regarding humidity: I'd take your dehumidifier from outside the tent and put it inside the tent if you have room. Then I'd suggest an Inkbird humidity controller and hook your humidifier and dehumidifier up to the controller and set the value you want. Keep your exhaust fan on a constant low setting. Another way is to bring up the temp during which squashes the humidity or bring in cooler dry air from outside the temp using an AC in the room your tent resides. The trick is to tune your room to work in balance with what you need in the tent. I have a few minutes available atm so I'll elaborate on humidity and what works for me. I just switched out my equipment for flowering a few days ago and here is what works for me as I have multiple tents in one room. My room is 40% RH and 68f because I have an AC running in the room which is also cooling my RDWC reservoir outside the tent. A couple of days ago, I added a dehumidifier to the tent and I added an active intake fan to the tent to bring that cool dry air into the tent from the room on a low constant setting. Lights on: The tent sits at 77F if I leave the exhaust fan on a low setting but can dial in higher temps if I run the exhaust fan intermittently. The heat is produced solely by the lights. The Inkbird controller mainly runs the humidifier during the day to hit my 60% RH I've set for preflower because I'm constantly pulling in my 40% RH from the room on low setting. As I get later into flower and want to drop the RH and temp more, I'll just adjust the Inkbird controller and turn my exhaust fan and intake up a bit more. Lights off (7am to 11am): When lights go out, the plants transpire heavily as the temp drops. Lights off temp would go down to 64f without any heat source which is too much of a temperature swing IMHO. The dehumidifier provides some minor heating and dehumidification during lights out to keep in line with the 50% RH I set on Inkbird controller and a constant low exhaust puts the tent at solid 71F temp with exhaust fan and intake fan on a low setting. If I didn't use an AC outside the tent, my intake air would probably exceed 60% creating an endless cycle of dehumidification. Happy growing!
steadfast_grower
steadfast_growercommented4 years ago
@MyWeedAccount, Thanks! I've learned so much this first go at RDWC and I find it rewarding to share the information I've learned on this journey. 1. I'm happy to hear it worked out. 2. I pushed mine way too hard on the week for and dropped it back into the 500's on week 5. Gradually increased since but this week, I chased my PPM. Both water level drops and PPM drops were occurring at fast rates daily. I'd top off in the 750 range would be back down in the low 600's later in the day or the next morning. It seems I finally stabilized it yesterday by bumping it up about 150 to 830 with a blend of grow and flower nutrients. It depends on the nutrient brand, but yeah, you will typically want to be close to 900+ for mid flower. Are you seeing any deficiencies? I'd suggest trying to bump it up gradually throughout the week a couple of 150-200ppm and see how they respond. Now is the time to add any flower additives if desired. I'm keeping my nutrients simple for this first run so only a couple of flower additives 3. The humidifier will surely work out for you especially with the Inkbird controller. Just do what you can for now and watch any leaves you have tucked for wet spots. Have fun!
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@steadfast_grower, I wish I could give you more than just "a like" on this thing. The amount of info and tips you've given me has been invaluable! To address your points: 1. I'm not patient lol and I bought some Gorilla glue silicone caulk and put it on the other night -- so far, so good! I will definitely look into the one you mentioned if this fails for any reason. I had actually bought the NPT to barbed connection just in case, but I was able to fit the silicone tubes with a tube extender tool (and I'm adding hose clamps). 2. I'll try to word the ppm phrasing better. The past week the ppm generally rose up by 30-50 ppm per day (sometimes more), so I would steadily decrease the ppm by diluting with more water. I was pushing them before near 800 ppm until I saw slight nute burn, but ever since then, they've only wanted less. I'm at the ~500 ppm mark now, and that seems to be where they want it. I'm just wondering if this is too low for being a month into flowering (not that there's much I should do about it if that's what the plants want)? Typically, I see people using at least 800-1100 ppm in flower 3. Unfortunately, the 70 pint dehumidifier won't fit in the tent, but I do have a smaller one in there. I just purchased a more compact 50 pint unit to put in the tent as well. I do have an inkbird humidity controller set up for the dehumidifier, but it's not even needed b/c I have to keep the dehumidifier continuously on anyway. The humidity outside the tent is slightly below 40%, and I have my exhaust fan on full to bring in the lower humidity and remove the high humidity (+ airflow). The new humidifier gets here next Wednesday, so hopefully that will help, and in the meantime, I'll probably just keep the tent open with the mosquito net. I have quite a bit of airflow in the tent, so I'm hoping that combats the high humidity for now. Thanks again for all the advice, as always!
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 114 years ago
Congrats on the bountiful, frosty harvest 👊
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@StunFlower, Thanks!! Just chopped the second last night and it's looking even more bountiful than the first!
steadfast_grower
steadfast_growercommentedweek 34 years ago
Couldn't post to your reply to my accidentally deleted message. So I'll add here: PH Meter: I still say calibrate weekly instead of monthly. It is your most important measuring equipment and I couldn't believe my 6.2 reading was actually a 6.6 value after two weeks of use. Light: I've turned up my light more aggressively. I have a singleT5 hanging over each plant for blue spectrum and my HLG 300 v2 RSpec is cranked to 50% as of yesterday (Day 10) at 30" with no signs of curling yet. My goal is to have it 100% by week 3. Then I can start dropping the light 1 inch at a time until they say its enough. My theory is more light, more nutrient uptake. Enzymes: Lots of products. I chose to use the Flying Skull Z9 (Canada) Z7 (USA). It is a two-part solution. Enzyme and bio-safe cleaner which doesn't affect beneficial bacteria but helps keep buckets clean. It will create bubbles for first 12-16 hours, but is minimal by next day as it reduces, salts and other grime. Air: I'm using square EZ store buckets. I have the stone connected to a pump that is dialed down sitting under net pot. The other two stones in my bucket are off to the side of the net pot. to keep oxygen in the root zone but not saturating the net pot. I can see your point, round buckets would be more difficult to add more air without saturating Rapid Rooter. My net pots are the 8" current culture ones which have a riser in the middle which helps keep the RR from becoming to wet. I'm considering going with neoprene collars next round. LST: I would start LST in a few days after they perk back up - nice and gentle, then bend a bit more in a day or two after the first tie down if needed. My Night Owls typically start throwing pistils around day 30-35 so I'd start soon before they stretch. Happy to hear your plants are recovering. Cheers!
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@steadfast_grower, Once again, THANK YOU! Super helpful. One thing I'm about to switch up is replacing my insulated lowes buckets with a 5 gallon igloo cooler, which is slightly more narrow and taller to help raise the netpots a bit more. I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. This will also help with maintaining low water temps, which will boost the level of oxygen in the water. Hoping this takes things to the next level....can't. stop. tinkering. haha Thanks again!
steadfast_grower
steadfast_growercommentedweek 14 years ago
If the tap root is poking out, I suggest getting it in the net pot on one layer of pebbles now. You can even poke the root through one of the holes. Then control your air pump so the bubbles are just misting the net pot but not saturating the rapid rooter. I'm also into my first RDWC run with Night Owl. Check out my Milk & Qookies diary, I had the roots hitting the water 5 days sooner than the first try with just a few changes. Saw your Reddit post and following your grow. Good luck on your first DWC!
MyWeedAccount
MyWeedAccountcommented4 years ago
@steadfast_grower, thanks for the advice!! I wish I saw your grow earlier b/c I came to the same conclusion that the rapid rooters retained water too easily, and have switched to spraying (and will in the future). I think I actually jumped the gun on this one and put them in the net pot (1 inch" hydroton layer underneath) immediately. Not the worst thing, but it's harder to check on it, so next grow I'll definitely be keeping it in the rapid rooter longer. The water is just at the net pot and the bubbles are hitting the bottom of the rapid rooter right now. I plan to slowly lower the water and keep checking under the netpot to see if the roots pop out (damn, my patience and eagerness is being tested haha). I'll definitely be following your grow. Your style is very similar and I appreciate the detailed hour notes! Cheers!
Mr_ZAF_Budz
Mr_ZAF_Budzcommentedweek 123 years ago
Looks amazing! Well done 👏🏻
DevilsBud
DevilsBudcommentedweek 114 years ago
Awesome frosty grow 👌👌
sdoyle
sdoylecommentedweek 114 years ago
Awesome job!!!!!!!
y0shimitsu
y0shimitsucommentedweek 94 years ago
Thanks for sharing this growmie 🙏🏻💚 enjoy! 🙌🏻
Lacrima
Lacrimacommentedweek 94 years ago
Nice buds ! Happy Growing ! 😊💪
MarsHydroLED
MarsHydroLEDcommentedweek 64 years ago
Happy growing mate 😊
steadfast_grower
steadfast_growercommentedweek 34 years ago
Thanks for reply. Not sure, but my comment was accidentially removed. I'll re-post here for reference. ---------------------------------- I ran into similar problems on week 4 as well. Drooping, which then turned to yellowing and then root issues. I tried different PH ranges from 5.8-6.0 and 6.1-6.3 along with upping nutrients and other tactics. I saved them but ended up moving them to soil and starting over in RDWC because I figured, after two weeks of stunted growth the effort wasn't going to pay off with autos because the first few weeks are so important before they start to flower at about day 30. My plants were much smaller than I had anticipated for being 30 days in. No regrets, I learned a lot. I anticipated problems would likely happen. I also sterilized, and rebuilt my system with some design changes which will solve some of the issues that led to the plant deficiencies. I'm already into week two on my second try and everything is going much better this round. Some things I learned on my first try which may help you diagnose: 1. Keep water level exactly level. If it fluctuates, the air roots can drown and simulate overwatering, the wilting. 2. Calibrate PH monitor/pen. BlueLab suggests calibrating the Guardian monthly, when I checked I was 4 points off. Calibrating weekly with water changes now. 3. More Air. I became convinced the root zone needed more oxygen, even with a waterfall. I'm now running 3 stones in each bucket now across two pumps so I have redundancy in case one pump fails. Additionally, I dial down the air pump attached to the stone under the net pot to avoid over-saturating the rapid rooter, but leave the other stones in bucket full throttle. 4. Push the nutrients to find the limit, maybe 5ml at a time - I go for some slight tip burn on first set of leaves, I was totally underfeeding on my first try. 5. Boost LED light dimmer more aggressively. Full strength at 30" by week 3. More light results in more nutrient uptake. 6. Add an enzyme product to work WITH Hydroguard. Enzymes work with beneficials and break down any dead plant matter and loose roots floating around. 7. PPE: Sanitizing hands regularly and wearing latex gloves when messing with any water and net/pot contact. 8. I've added shields over the net pots to ensure I don't have any additional light leaks. My clay is chunky and the bag consists of about 10% round marble-sized balls. I used black bristol board with a square hole and slit. 9. Add hydroguard/beneficials/enzymes every TWO days. Beneficial bacteria only lasts about 48 hours and peak population is at 24hours from adding to system. When running a live system, You will always have bad bacteria in there, the trick is to keep adding an army of good bacteria to keep the bad bacteria outnumbered. If the temps go past 72F, I add an extra dose just as a protective measure. Adding too much won't hurt the plant's health. 10. Stop messing with them... which I'm doing more on my second try now that I can know and can visualize what's happening underneath the net pot. I had just moved this tent to a new room with new venting, so I had a lot of environmental conditions to dial in the first round. Adhering to VPD using leaf temp as best I can. I agree with @ORGANOMAN 20/4 or 18/6 light cycle is definitely necessary. The dark hour is when the plant works on the root system, underneath and undergoes other changes. Additionally, it allows the water solution to cool down. My night cycle, takes the solution back to 66f each morning. Dropping the ambient air temperature even a few degrees during night cycle is so important in regards to leaf temp and the changes they undergo internally as well. Hoping you solve the issue! I want you to succeed! Good luck!
Oozle
Oozlecommentedweek 14 years ago
Good luck on your 1st DWC run!
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