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Greengoose
Greengoosestarted grow question 4 months ago
Question about light distance. Do you prefer full power greater distance?Or lower power, shorter distance?TIA
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Polyphemus
Polyphemusanswered grow question 4 months ago
Light spreads out according to the inverse square law is why. 😋 i use emitocons and rhetorical questions to express passive aggressive feelings but pretend i'm a very polite person at the same time. ---- the result won't be the same because leaves lower on plant will absorb stronger light if hanging distance is further, ceteris paribus, which means same DLI at canopy, same climate, same everything esle to resolve this question properly. ---- Let's say 2 exact contexts are compared as far as climate and DLI at cnopy but distance from canopy is dfiferent (which needs a little more power to avhieve same dLI at canopy) - one is 18" and one is 24". Any depth into canopy under the 24" distance is a smaller loss of light compared to same depth into canopy under 18" distance. A mathematical certaianty due to inverse square law. -- What I am not saying is that it is better in all contexts.. some measurements would need to be taken in a controlled environment and compared to figure out at what point is it worth it? "worth it" is in some part opinion and relative to requirements of the individual. Maybe they just need max yield and slightly increasing cost per gram is not a concern, so this is a good idea for them more often than not. This person would have a different opinion than someone primarily concerned about cost per gram. Even with this person their may be a context in which they improve cost per gram with additional height from canopy. Definitely possible, just not sure how common it'd be. -- applying a one-szie-fits-all answer here is a lack of imagination.
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BerrySweetHigh
BerrySweetHighanswered grow question 4 months ago
Lower power closer to the plant. Why using extra energy when the result is the same! 😋
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Polyphemus
Polyphemusanswered grow question 4 months ago
The greater depth of canopy, the more you will benefit from more power from further awy -- all other things the same -- meainng a well-distributed blanket of light etc. Due to how quickly light spreads out on 2 axes when you assess any plane a specific distance from light source, you will get better penetration deeper into a canopy with more power and further away. this is incontrovertibly true. How large of effect is something that needs to be measured in each context to make an educated guess at what is best for any situation. There's virtually no benefit when talking about short plants like very early vege and seedlings. The time to consider it would be during flower with a deep canopy. Using a scrog would delay that suggestion while things grow out horizontally. phone apps may not be accurate, but they are precise. You can see proportional intensity by taking a measurement at different depths of canopy. Obviously shielding from leaves and such plays a major role too in what you'll see. If it is 50% of a measurement above, it's 50% of umol/s too, even if the umol/s reading is wrong due to conversion errors taking place between lux and umol/s of PAR wavelengths. So, light intensity will 'fade' slower the deeper you go, if you use more power from higher distances that results in same PPFD at canopy of plants. Whether it is worth the extra cost is a totally different question that is much more complicated. The cause and effect here is real.. whether or not it matters is the real question. real life measurements would help... I doubt anything more than a few more inches would be helpful before the cost per added gram is too high to rationalize more watts. they key takeawy here is don't be blindly focused on trying to get your lights as close as possible through dimming.. that would be unwise in any context except tiny plants and a scrog or similar situation where the wanted growth resides in a small depth of space.
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