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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
3 years ago
With continuous rain, Golosa with polyploid treatment was in a bad shape. Cola’s were flopping and leaves looks damaged. I thought that leaving the flowers would only invite problems. And I harvested the plant only after 44 days flowering time. This could be an “early” phenotypes. I soaked the harvest in weak hydrogen peroxide solution overnight. Rinse with tap water and then hung the flowers to dry out side for the first two days. This is my first phase of fast drying. And I then move the drying flower into a spare bathroom to dry for the next three days. Then I put it in a glass container with burping hole. Dried, Golosa flower smell nice and delicious. The stink developed into tea, marmalade, and a bit of coffee. Overall, it made my mouth watered. In my mind, the score of Golosa already went up as smell turned from fresh animal dung into bitter/sweet medicinal herb. While buds are fat and juicy, the weight was not impressive. I got only 70 grams out of a good size plant. Even factor in potency, the yield is on the low side. And I was not able to cram in fertilizer on Golosa either. The way to increase yield is to increase vegging time. Normal Golosa is doing okay in her 6th flowering week. Buds are still developing but the size is not f as big as the one with polyploid treatment. I think she will spend one or two more weeks in flowering phase. I fed her lightly with bat guano phosphate, molasses, and amino seaweed. There was no treatment for bugs nor fungus. Also trim off some more fan leaves. This week the weather cool down a bit with no rain. Over all it was a good week for growing ganja. I pray for the weather to be like this for one more week. Then, I would get a decent harvest out of another Golosa plant. Recovered plants flowers are developing after four weeks. And I started to feed them with light guano tea. And I also start to trim off lower leaves and sucker branches. There were two plants. One was normal. And another was treated with colchicine for polyploid attempt. The treated plant showed better frost and stronger smell again. The two Golosa clones from untreated plant continues to develop. The one that was put in large 20-liters basket with depleted soil and a carpet of purslane is doing better. The in 7-liters pot with fresh mix earth worm casting and some sea purslane is doing well but not as good as the one with old soil. So I transplanted her to a basket with sea purslane. To me, this reenforce my thinking that Golosa feeds only very lightly. For Shooey my mate, I included pic of my beetle nut palm. It is a 30-meter stilt. Beetle nuts are on the ground around the plant. I have grown this plant to plug a hole underneath my fence. This worked well and stop soil erosion in that spot.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
Would polyploid weed cutting take root and clone as usual? I treated my Golods plant with colchicine. They maybe triploid already. So, I think I have s plant that is either tetraploid or hexaploid. Would these clone at all? Do I need to take extra cuttings?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
First generation plants that have been treated with colchicine are unsafe to smoke. The plant will be no more potent than the original. Clones should be as straight forward as with normal plants. It is only safe to smoke polyploid plants that have been grown from seeds produced by polyploid parents. Polyploidism only affects size/growth and vigor of the plant, but not THC production, sadly. If it did create super resinous plants, they would have been on the market for decades already.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
What would be a good fertilizing scheme for making robust seeds?
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Sunstonedgrows
Sunstonedgrowsanswered grow question 3 years ago
You'll want to fertilize close to week 2 or 3 of flower maybe a bit later. As for fertilizer regimen you do need a good amount of phosphorus, but potassium, nitrogen and your micronutrients are very important. Personally I recommend doing a ratio of 2/3 bloom and 1/3veg nutes. Personally I am using Dr. Earth dry amendments, and the mix of 2 scoops of flower and 1 scoop of veg works great for me.
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Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 13 years ago
My mind is blown 💥
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
😀😀😀😀😀 @Shooey, thanks mate. Hope the result will be useful.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 13 years ago
Can u tell if your roots swelled up?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
👍 good point. thanks @GYOweed, i’ll look at next container chang. I better wait until root fill out a little and see.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbcommentedweek 03 years ago
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary. Say hello if you ever visit my profile🌱 Peace & love L.S.T
HighRoller909
HighRoller909commentedweek 03 years ago
bery interesting good luck man.hope it is safe to use that polyploid solution
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, 😂😂😂 defo keep us posted on that although could use N2O? have a giggle while you work... 👊👊👊🙏
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@HighRoller909, just did the colchicine dip. No extra fingers on my hands yet. But it is still early.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 03 years ago
Incredible detail Med, nothing is left to chance! I’m impressed with delicious seeds 👍
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Shooey, thanks. I would love the taste and smell of SBR. But i was going for resistance. And there s one thing about chance factor. Its my fumbling hands 😀😀😀🙏😀😀
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 03 years ago
Back in the day some guys over here in Australia were experimenting with colchicine to induce polyploidism they apparently had some good results with the second generation seeds they made from the crosses I have a bottle of the colchicine tablets for gout and been thinking of experimenting one day Good luck mate 👍 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423818307908
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Grey_Wolf, i started on this. It took me 50 tablets for 15 cc solution. Concentration was at 0.2%. And tablets don’t dissolve well. Lab researchers have this automatic stirrer. May be i need to order lab grade colchicine? And yeah, second cross will get you triploid plants that grow better than tetraploids. And i was thinking about your feminized pollen for the next steps.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 03 years ago
Wish you best of luck and happy growing 👊😎
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommentedweek 03 years ago
Hi Med, good luck buddy. going to be very interesting.... the polyploid saga!! SMF 🙏 😎 🙏
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 93 years ago
On a real quick look, T3 looked like a polyploid. This phenotype would be awesome to work with in an indoor setup: they should grow some huge colas and stay compact. Nice project. About the FFT7, are you trying to revert it without reveg her?
sativaman
sativamancommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, thanks. Not easy to find a good male sometimes..
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@sativaman, Golosa has a big range of phenotype. O don’t recommend it. You will need to send rt out the pheno’s and clone a few rounds to make it worth the cost of seeds.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @sativaman, when it is this late, it takes too much work to reveg. She is unlikely to survive. And she won’t do “rodelization “ either. This is my 10tg FFT7 clone. But since i had not pulled her. Since i won’t be using this spot. A few extra puff of silver her way might get me some sack. Less chunky but more potent than White Critical with similar smell.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 03 years ago
Those will be monsters
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, nice you used colcoochi? How much bap u use? 15ppm or less for seeds?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@GYOweed, i hope i get an Audrey II.
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 233 years ago
An other nice cannadventure that comes to the end! Bravo for all the work you've done with this project! mmmm...!!! sticky buds !!!!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
🙏🙏🙏@sativaman,
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 183 years ago
Always interesting to read your updates mate. The golosa looks brilliant with all that frost at the moment mate! I remember reading about kratom last time you included it in your post. Last week I learned about “betel nut”. I had never heard of this until I was watching the news and I saw a street sign in Papua New Guinea saying “no chewing betel nut”. It reminded me of kratom, and I start to wonder why we never hear of these things much here in AUS, despite having the same climate and conditions as most of the Asian areas they are popular in. Maybe aussies are lazy?? We found weed, then we stopped looking 🤣
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Shooey, thanks mate. Beetle nut is a nasty way of consuming nicotine. It is red. So this is much worse than chewing tobacco. Actually a nice sort of palm to prevent soil erosion near a water ditch. Kratom is a construction worker thing. It grows on trees. So, it is very cheap. Thus its not hip. Buck hoe operators, asphalt pavers have kratom habit so they can brave the heat while working. Kratom is also use to rehab opoid addicts. It blocks the same neurob path that make opoids addictive with much lower effects. Seeds germinate well one fliwer costs two-dollar. And a flower will give you a hundred or so seedlings but these grow very slowly during the first year. And each is a tree.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 173 years ago
Great news about new legislation! So is it for personal use? How many plants are you allowed to have now?? I really wish we would move on this here in AUS, it's time really. Whip snake is awesome!! He even looks friendly what a beauty
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@Shooey, as it is, no limit for home use as long as you don’t sell it. We are waiting for the grace period before the bill became a law. No limit allows me to clone. This particular snake is friendly. We leave each other to our own business. My concern is more about my dogs would hurt him. As it is, these fur balls never look up.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 33 years ago
Wow
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@GYOweed, this one feeds lightly. Will take a while to recover.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 153 years ago
Nice clustering keep the trichome production up!
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 113 years ago
Happy new year med Hope you had a great holiday mate 🍻
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 113 years ago
Happy new year to you and all your plants!!
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialcommentedweek 23 years ago
💚💚💚Nice 💪💪💪 happy Halloweed and keep it up 💚💚 💚 growers love 💚💚💚
Godesskat
Godesskatcommentedweek 03 years ago
Everything is better with a beg of weed👻 Good luck happy growing😍