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Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 3
Defoliation
weeks 4-7, 9-10
LST
weeks 5
Soil
Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
RQS soil plugs
Grow medium
Strain
MilkyWay F1
Royal Queen Seeds
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Strong
Well, what can I say. Actual autos. That are true F1s and topped vs Untopped I can say I did have differences in both phenos. But for size, bud density and so on. It's very hard to tell which is different. The Untopped had a more powerful punch to it taste wise which I'll get to. The buds if were given to someone wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Another difference was weight from harvest. Got 30% more on the umtopped version. Got 69 g from the untopped and 101 the topped. But, quantity id much prefer as there was very little difference in bud, I could tell the topped was more pungent and potent. But, not by much. And only if id not of known them apart. I'd not of known the difference. So really is there a difference.. So, yes, untopped wins i think.
The Outcome
Week 13
Harvest
What's on the scales?
175
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
700
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
2
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
1
mยฒ
ftยฒ
Grow Room size
0.3
g / watt
175
g / mยฒ
87.5
g / plant
2
plant / mยฒ
580
watt / mยฒ
Tastes like
Diesel
Citrus
Pungent
Feels like
40% Sativa 60% Indica

Positive effects

Energetic
Relaxed
Sleepy

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Dry eyes
Dry mouth
Dry mouth

Medical effects

Insomnia
Insomnia
Anxiety
Anxiety
Depression
Depression
Reviews. Nutrient
Good start. Didn't really use much. But, I'll rate them as they didn't harm
Excellent nutrition that helps the plant take up pk and Excellent quality they bring to my crop as you can see. Lovely fade superb ad to taste.
Worked really well. Great micro and marco pair. Added with great enzymes they worked a treat. You don't use a lot to make the EC value 6-800 like .5ml per l. The micro has everything and bid strongly advise it to ppl who used the RO water (0EC water) Has everything micro nutrient in it that water has. So, very good.
Worked great, very potent. So be careful. Mix 1ml with 100ml of water. And then you'll be able to apply to your nutrient mix without running the risk of adding to much.
These i used later and throughout grow and they for sure gave my plants exceptional taste and quality/quantity to my 2 F1s I've actually invested heavy into these for my winter grows going on now. They really didn't do great in 35c heat.. but to be fair when dealing with that heat. No enzyme wouldn't go bad. And are usable in high heat environments, just not in a co2 environment. I didn't expect to have a tent that hot and it wasn't sealed neither.
I'm sure they added to the taste.. They didn't hurt. I for sure am gonna give this a clone test against slSugar Royal
Commented by
gottagrowsometime gottagrowsometime
10 months ago
Got 2 good plants. 1 had 20% more weight (untopped) and the topped had a more pungent flavour profile but not by much. Got a really nice bud quality & quantity from both F1s and they actually were very similar and grew them under as close to each others environment and what they got i mirrored and except for topping and not i defoliation was done the same way. 14 plants were done under my 1m2 tent. Thats 35watts a plant a full power but as I only went to 85 max id day 25-30watts each. Was lovely pungent sweet citrus taste to both plants, hints of fuel and cheese. Untopped was a bit more stinky. But overall they were very similar taste wise. Sweet citrus with a pungent cheesey scent is what I got with strong diesel taste. Lovely buds and delighted with both harvests
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Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblyweek 0
Good to see an untrained grow
resimax
resimaxweek 2
Looking great!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@@resimax, thanks pal
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdavirusweek 0
I'll be watching ๐Ÿ‘€ to see if you come to the same conclusion that I have on top n no top Good luck on your new babies ๐Ÿ‘ถ ๐Ÿ’œ ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Cyrusdavirus, let's see. Lol. I've had mixed results.
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpsweek 0
Good luck with your grow ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฒ
Bread_n_Buds
Bread_n_Budsweek 1
I dont understood so good if are all autoflowering this RQS F1, good luck this will be a super grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Breadandbuds, Yeah, I mes them also. As my understanding where F1s were FF photos. They sent me something explaining what they mean. It's just a cross of less strains, even a more stable pheno. I think. I read it couple wks back lol, and my mind blank
Xpie77
Xpie77week 1
Happy Grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Xpie77, thanks :-)
kohlrabi
kohlrabiweek 0
Very curious to see your results! Good luck and enjoy the grow! ๐Ÿฅฆ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@kohlrabi, me to. Looking forward to getting some good results. Am gonna put them in 5gal pots for best results this wk. Thanks for dropping by.
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
This sounds like a fun experiment, and it will be interesting to follow along. Happy Growing, Buddy! ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
Unkraut
Unkrautweek 0
good luck with this grow! ๐ŸŒฟ
Aldo90
Aldo90week 4
My next thing is getting a veg tent sorted. I've got my old 4x4 still I've also got a ts1000 I just need the space lol. Only thing I'd need to buy to set it up would be a wee extractor.
Aldo90
Aldo90
@gottagrowsometime, that's my main reason for making the switch to fems this run, I've done auto runs I've been happy with got what i thought was a decent yield, but then I'd end up getting an ounce each from 3 that took 14 weeks also lol. I've germinated, gg sherbet, gg cookies and tropicana cookies, all 3 are the fast buds FFs. See how this one goes. I'll be adding the uv/ir light in soon also, just need to buy one first lol.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Aldo90, yeah, a veggie tent is a must. In saying that. Soon, she'll be rocking a 300w or I might just add another 100w as my 100cm2 is flowering fems and is only running at barely 14hrs a day. Frosted G is already flipped. The p1000 puts out enough ppfd to finish her. But, not for the whole tent I'll need 2. Have to think on it. Will the yield of 4 autos be enough for the cost of running it. I'm not sure.
Sweetie420
Sweetie420week 0
Wish You Best ๐Ÿ™‚ i will follow this Milkyway ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ My Medusa F1 and Apollo F1 soon go to the glass ๐Ÿ˜œ
Sweetie420
Sweetie420
@gottagrowsometime, yeah soon i will make a diaries. ๐Ÿ˜‰
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Sweetie420, lovely stuff. I'll check em out when they up. Good luck
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 4
Death to the gnats
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@NegotiatedBubble, caught about 15 on just 1. Thing is, did i catch them before they got a chance to lay any eggs. I'll know in a few days if my 4e investment paid off.
Bread_n_Buds
Bread_n_Budsweek 2
Is a good test iam doing to on Purple Pung OG, is fresh and good to know to understand how a plant respond to the topping and let know to other grower. If I were a breeder I would insert this indication on the response to the topping in the data sheet
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Breadandbuds, I fully agree with you. As some breeders autos do really well when topped, have to get it in and hopefully you'll get min another 2 weeks of veg. Fastbuds take well to a top. But 3 times I done it to dutch-passion and they turned out small. Look forward to seeing the results. I just topped pheno 1, have to get her uppoted to her next pot. Have done it in a way, I can push my 2 hands down and cup it to pull it up. Hopefully won't be too much stress. Both will have to go through this. Gonna make it as even as I can. I know you can't get results , well results you can say for sure it'll work everytime. But, as these are meant to give a more equally grown crop. They are more or less in at the same stage, pheno 1&2 when you look bk over the days, they more or less match.
mcflow
mcflowweek 2
Looks great! Good luck growing๐Ÿ€
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@mcflow, cheers buddy
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowesweek 0
Good luck with your gro! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
StarLorr
StarLorrweek 6
Beautiful plant
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@StarLorr, cheers pal
Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblyweek 5
Nice diary my dude
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Ned_Schneebly, cheers mate. Thx for stopping by
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpsweek 4
Looking good ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฒ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Ju_Bps, thx m8
DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowerweek 3
looking very good :)
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@DeepWaterGrower, cheers buddy.
Bmolly
Bmollyweek 12
Your passion for gardening is contagious. Your plants reflect the love and care you pour into them. Keep nurturing and sharing your green journey, inspiring others along the way. ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’ช