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Topping
weeks 3
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weeks 4-7, 9-10
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weeks 5
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Grow medium
Coco Coir
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Perlite
Grow medium
RQS soil plugs
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Week 7
Flowering
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gottagrowsometime gottagrowsometime
2 years ago
Welcome to my Milkyway F1 Auto Diary, sponsored by RQS. Summary Pheno 1 Topped & Pheno 2 Untopped Prepariing to flip days 43 (Pre Flower Days 1-5-Days 44-49) Both plants are like clockwork, they're flipping the exact same days, Have vegged the exact same amount of days. Although Pheno 1 is 4 days ahead, I've kept pics of pheno 2 up-to-date with pheno 1 "topped" days. These 2 were hit along with all plants that got fed Mystical Green, "is used to balance PH" i hardly ever need to use it. But instead of using my PH adjuster I used this to bring PH to 6. And within 24hrs it looked as though they'd be starved of mag for a wk that's how far ahead they looked. I flushed both plants, and thankfully they're back on track. I changed everything to Plagron. I took the badly damaged leafs off, as I had to know if the things were getting worse, plagron saved the day. I used Vita Race "Foliar spray" and silic rock to help strengthen the plants. They did take a little step back in their progress but, they're back on track now. Both are looking well. Will carry their war wounds thru their entire grow now, so that's pic appeal out the window, I'm just glad the issue is fixed. Pheno2 The untopped is going to have a lovely colas. She's really compact and her side nodes are developing nicely. Pheno 1, "topped" is also back to herself and has a nice even canopy that is developing nicely also. Heights Pheno 1 "Topped" is at 34.5cm Pheno 2 "untopped" is at 36cm Lights P/SF 1000 set at 100% 45 cm away. As Pre Flower is still a growth stage. PPM/PH Base feeds you need to use a good amount of ML/L. 4ml just pushed my ppm past 500 after Silic Rock, Power roots, pure zym pushed it to 220 and then base nute was used to reach current ppm, with everything the PH sits at 6.4. Although when they're out of pre flower Green Sensation will be given and then a lower dose of Base feed will be required. Terpinator is given in a solo feed, she adds a fair bit ppm wise, 410ppm and 6.1ph. Diet/Defoliation/Flushes At the start of the week. I was giving Terra Power Fire Yields and to even out the PH, I used Mystical Green, and also used it for artios touch for my other plants, and it hit everything hard with what looked like a serious mag issue, even the week old seedling showed symptoms. I flushed everything that was given Terra Power Enzymes and changed everything to Plagron, 3x the value of each pot was given, so the 11L pots got 30L of water. I don't know if was because my Substrate was to warm, but their enzynes had such a negative affect it nearly kilt my girls. Thankfully, a few of plagrons best came to the rescue, Power Roots has restimilated both plants are throwing out brand new roots, "pics above" also vita race was used as a foliar spray, 'meant to be once a week, but as they were so bad they got dosed twice' Silic Rock & Pure Zym were added to their Base nutrient Alga Bloom. Also, for Terp-taste I added Terpinator to their diet. Defoliation was done on day 43 and i had to take a few troubled leafs early into pre flower, as I needed to see was the problem getting worse. They were stalled a few days but have started growing again and are back on track.
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Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblyweek 0
Good to see an untrained grow
resimax
resimaxweek 2
Looking great!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@@resimax, thanks pal
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdavirusweek 0
I'll be watching ๐Ÿ‘€ to see if you come to the same conclusion that I have on top n no top Good luck on your new babies ๐Ÿ‘ถ ๐Ÿ’œ ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Cyrusdavirus, let's see. Lol. I've had mixed results.
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpsweek 0
Good luck with your grow ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฒ
Bread_n_Buds
Bread_n_Budsweek 1
I dont understood so good if are all autoflowering this RQS F1, good luck this will be a super grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Breadandbuds, Yeah, I mes them also. As my understanding where F1s were FF photos. They sent me something explaining what they mean. It's just a cross of less strains, even a more stable pheno. I think. I read it couple wks back lol, and my mind blank
Xpie77
Xpie77week 1
Happy Grow
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Xpie77, thanks :-)
kohlrabi
kohlrabiweek 0
Very curious to see your results! Good luck and enjoy the grow! ๐Ÿฅฆ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@kohlrabi, me to. Looking forward to getting some good results. Am gonna put them in 5gal pots for best results this wk. Thanks for dropping by.
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
This sounds like a fun experiment, and it will be interesting to follow along. Happy Growing, Buddy! ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ
Unkraut
Unkrautweek 0
good luck with this grow! ๐ŸŒฟ
Aldo90
Aldo90week 4
My next thing is getting a veg tent sorted. I've got my old 4x4 still I've also got a ts1000 I just need the space lol. Only thing I'd need to buy to set it up would be a wee extractor.
Aldo90
Aldo90
@gottagrowsometime, that's my main reason for making the switch to fems this run, I've done auto runs I've been happy with got what i thought was a decent yield, but then I'd end up getting an ounce each from 3 that took 14 weeks also lol. I've germinated, gg sherbet, gg cookies and tropicana cookies, all 3 are the fast buds FFs. See how this one goes. I'll be adding the uv/ir light in soon also, just need to buy one first lol.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Aldo90, yeah, a veggie tent is a must. In saying that. Soon, she'll be rocking a 300w or I might just add another 100w as my 100cm2 is flowering fems and is only running at barely 14hrs a day. Frosted G is already flipped. The p1000 puts out enough ppfd to finish her. But, not for the whole tent I'll need 2. Have to think on it. Will the yield of 4 autos be enough for the cost of running it. I'm not sure.
Sweetie420
Sweetie420week 0
Wish You Best ๐Ÿ™‚ i will follow this Milkyway ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ My Medusa F1 and Apollo F1 soon go to the glass ๐Ÿ˜œ
Sweetie420
Sweetie420
@gottagrowsometime, yeah soon i will make a diaries. ๐Ÿ˜‰
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Sweetie420, lovely stuff. I'll check em out when they up. Good luck
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 4
Death to the gnats
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@NegotiatedBubble, caught about 15 on just 1. Thing is, did i catch them before they got a chance to lay any eggs. I'll know in a few days if my 4e investment paid off.
Bread_n_Buds
Bread_n_Budsweek 2
Is a good test iam doing to on Purple Pung OG, is fresh and good to know to understand how a plant respond to the topping and let know to other grower. If I were a breeder I would insert this indication on the response to the topping in the data sheet
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Breadandbuds, I fully agree with you. As some breeders autos do really well when topped, have to get it in and hopefully you'll get min another 2 weeks of veg. Fastbuds take well to a top. But 3 times I done it to dutch-passion and they turned out small. Look forward to seeing the results. I just topped pheno 1, have to get her uppoted to her next pot. Have done it in a way, I can push my 2 hands down and cup it to pull it up. Hopefully won't be too much stress. Both will have to go through this. Gonna make it as even as I can. I know you can't get results , well results you can say for sure it'll work everytime. But, as these are meant to give a more equally grown crop. They are more or less in at the same stage, pheno 1&2 when you look bk over the days, they more or less match.
mcflow
mcflowweek 2
Looks great! Good luck growing๐Ÿ€
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@mcflow, cheers buddy
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowesweek 0
Good luck with your gro! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
StarLorr
StarLorrweek 6
Beautiful plant
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@StarLorr, cheers pal
Ned_Schneebly
Ned_Schneeblyweek 5
Nice diary my dude
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Ned_Schneebly, cheers mate. Thx for stopping by
Ju_Bps
Ju_Bpsweek 4
Looking good ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฒ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Ju_Bps, thx m8
DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowerweek 3
looking very good :)
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@DeepWaterGrower, cheers buddy.
Bmolly
Bmollyweek 12
Your passion for gardening is contagious. Your plants reflect the love and care you pour into them. Keep nurturing and sharing your green journey, inspiring others along the way. ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’ช