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MissBling MissBling
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WEEK 8, Day 1 - OK So towards the end of last week I noticed a little purplish red tint on some of my stems :/ From previous grows I am guessing this a deficiency brought on because my growing medium has ended up too acidic!! So I tested my runoff and sure enough it was coming out in the 5 range!!! This makes phosphorus, magnesium and other nutrients unavailable to the plant. So I had to act on this sign... So I have had no choice but to flush each plant with ph 6.5 water until the runoff is within the correct range. I don't want my growth and bud production slowing down so close to the end!! This is my best grow so far!! I am a little disappointed as I am growing with biobizz I was hoping, as advertised... that my ph will be buffered by the soil and phproblems wouldn't be an issue. But I think that feeding with every water is allowing a build up in the soil and this is causing the medium to be too acidic!! The Good thing is... I spotted it quickly so I could take steps to rectify!! QUESTION- Guys Can any ORGANIC GROWERS... please advise how they ph up and ph down without using chemical additives? I have citric acid which I hope is ok for ph down? but what about ph up? would baking soda do it? ANY advice much appreciated. I don't want to harm my micro herd by using chem. Based ph up and down. Thanks guys!! MissB πŸ’• XxX
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MissBling
MissBlingstarted grow question 6 years ago
SUPERCROPPING.....I have used this technique in my last grow (Green Crack auto) and saw great results!! BUT I did it earlier than week 7. So My question is.... Am I OK To supercrop some of the side branches that are sticking up above the tied down colas? OR Is it too late?? TIA
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Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyanswered grow question 6 years ago
Sure you can, But with that said it is usually done in veg. and it can be done in early flower, but personally would not do it with the auto due them being a little further into flowering. For photo's you can get away with the supper-cropping in early flower but I have had the best results doing it like a week or 2 before the flip to flower. Happy Growing Keep up the awsome workπŸ‘
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MissBling
MissBlingweek 7
Thanks so much you guys and gals who answered my grow question! 3 fab answers and all absolutely spot on advice I'd say!!. I will LST The remaining side branches this time to maintain a nice even canopy and to avoid any disasters so late in the game with the autos!! Not worth loosing out altogether for maybe a few extra grams!! Thanks again people :) I will play it safe!!HAPPY GROWING & SMOKING PPL!! :)Miss Bling XxX
MissBling
MissBling
Thanks Bulbi!! Very interesting!! maybe I should resist the urge to further train then?! I am obsessed with even light Haha. Cheers for the input bulbi :)
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@MissBling, hey you got it πŸ’ͺ just one thing though : i got bad experience LST-ing autos already in flower, the branches that were pulled ended up yielding less than those that werent, just letting you know, because a few extra grams is always worth it ! πŸš€
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 10
Well done, very nice shape, i love the Structure of the cc....
MissBling
MissBling
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks MrsL! I love the Cash Crop Myself. Thanks for your comment. Much Love πŸ‘πŸ€—πŸ’•
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 11
you got to wear sunglasses to bling bling They are... nice
MissBling
MissBling
@Mrs_Larimar, Hahaha Indeed MrsL!! πŸ˜ŽπŸ˜‰πŸ‘πŸ’•
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 7
This looks great! Ur getting the right advice tooπŸ‘ These folks know the biz! Good luck with flower timeπŸ‘πŸ˜Ž
MissBling
MissBling
@TheBudWhisperer, Thanks!! Yeah you guys are all awesome!!! :)
BigBudWolf
BigBudWolfweek 8
Nice! I'm curious how those blueberry twists will smoke!! I've been wondering about organic ph up/down methods as well. I've been considering lemon & vinegar as an organic ph down and baking soda for an organic ph up. There is also a product called earth juice natural that has a ph up/down line. But I have not yet tried any of these methods personally. Hopefully some more experienced organic growers will have some advice!!
AsNoriu
AsNoriuweek 9
How many defoliation rounds, waves or whatever leaf stripping you do to plants ? ;)) Looks like no fan leaves left .. I am very interested in that. Could you share some of your experience ? Nobody seems to answer my question at my diary, so i am seeking for answers myself. I am a strong believer in defoliation , just i hate to make stress to anybody, even to my girls, when i know it helps in the end ... Its just so hard to rip leave or all of them ;)))))) I have my mini test runing and search for grows who look like after good defoliations and asking people stupid questions ...
MissBling
MissBling
@ThatoneAKguy, Thank u πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘.. Some autos will react better than others I think I have had some luck on my side maybe?! Thanks for your comment hunni Best of luck with your grows MissB πŸ’•
MissBling
MissBling
@AsNoriu, Hi there 😁.. Ok so. Firstly I am no expert and anything I say here is simply what I do with my own plants. I am not suggesting this is the correct way to do it, just what seems to work for me and my set up πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘. So here goes.... Defoliation. I have experience using this technique on my other crops. Also done a fair bit of reading on this matter and I practice this technique on all my girls.... and it is something I can see is working well for me 😁. I will add a link to this comment at the end with an article I found helpful in the beginning. Have a read!! Ok so I start to defoliate a tiny bit very early on in veg... This is just to get the plants used to being stressed a little so they don't get shocked and or stunted or stressed... like they would if you started ripping leaves off mid flower, for example on a plant that has never experienced that kind of trauma before. This is called "hardening." Just like with tomatos. Which I also grow in my veg garden! Just like your grandmother Coincidentally lol... So in the beginning I will remove ONLY 2-3 leaves the first few times, then wait and watch my plant closely over the next few days to ensure she is not too stressed, stunted or unhappy with me in any way. If she is happy and unaffected simply repeat this process every few days (2 times weekly on average) removing a few more fan leaves each time. I do this throughout the ENTIRE grow. The plant will grow new fan leaves to replace the ones you remove but they will need much smaller and less offensive than the older bigger light hogging leaves!! The idea behind this is that I remove the old, big bulky fan leaves that would take up too much of my grow space and possibly cast shade on my flowering colas, which will negatively affect taste, yield and potency. So I continue to do this all the way into flower. This time removing the top fan leaves rather than bottom ones to allow maximum light to those top colas. If you take pictures a few days before and after defoliation you should see the difference in the size of flowers!! You will be amazed πŸ˜‰. Defoliation is also great for reducing humidity in your grow room, saving space, keeping plants compact, keeping canopies even, maximising light power and improving potency and yield (DISCLAIMER... IN MY EXPERIENCE) πŸ˜πŸ‘ Next time I defoliate my blueberry twists (see other diary) I will take a video. I will show you exactly how I do it πŸ˜ƒ will comment again here when Iv done that. I really Hope this helps. If it makes no sense let me know and I shall try and explain better. Link to follow about defoliating when I find it!! MissB x πŸ’•
AsNoriu
AsNoriu
@ThatoneAKguy, 3 times i edited grammar and added some thoughts, its crashing every time .. no more one finger mobile typing. If your plant is strong and you know what you do - just do it ! Sandwiches of tucked leaves dont work.Light absorbed only by top one. Just sweat and asks mold to move in ;))
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 8
Hey missB I've been having the bottled nutrient blues also. I choose soil because of its buffering capacity and I'd like to one day get better at being able to reamend and reuse my soils rather than having to throw them away because of all of the excess nitrates etc that come along with bottled products. Unfortunately ive had to really try investigating the bottles i try using by getting the msds or sds sheets on each bottle. It's so hard when the majority of the companies are "mostly" or "partly" organic and then rant about how organic they are when it's only slightly so. I hope you can find the solution to your need of organic products to help with the ph and everything else. ✌️
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@MissBling, i fell in love with their podcast...that was how i first found em. So if you love nerdy science agricultural cannabis talks give it a listen.😊 i especially love episodes 9,10,12 and the bug lady is badass and the Coot guy too.
MissBling
MissBling
@Experimentgreen, Thanks. I am going to have a look at their website now πŸ˜ƒ Thank u XxXπŸ‘πŸ’•
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreen
@MissBling, yea im no soil biologist so the whole recipe factor is always confusing for me. I know kisorganics.com has a great and true organic super soil recipe, they also sell their super soil and tell how to reamend. Then there's the clackmas coot recipe which is also very good and very organic environment conscious. ✌️
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Denzul
Denzulweek 12
Those are some grogouse looking buds. Congrats. Makes me sad again that I had to make my ladies down before flower:( enjoy for the both of us!
MissBling
MissBling
@Denzul, Oh noooo!! Iv heard this happen to other growers. The wonders of Mother nature. Best of luck next grow. I will follow along for sure!! 😊 Much Love, Miss B.
Denzul
Denzul
@MissBling, oh I will be for sure! This run I had a freak incident where I planted 5 seeds direct to soil for the first time. 3 weeks later nothing from all 5. Went to my old germination method for a new batch, this time germinating a few extra incase. Well all 11 of the new ladies took and were put in my original pots. Fast forward another 2 weeks. A month since my initial run. And all 5 ladies start popping up next to the new ones. I transplanted them all out successfully and but was stuck with 16 plants opposed to my target of 4-8. So unfortunately some ladies had to get taken out. I have more seeds so every lady who didn't make it will be grown next run. Also because of the mix up there is about a 50% chance I am growing a lemon auto without knowing it because I had no clue which was which when the zombies(what I named the original runs survivors) were in which pot at this point over a month later and all shuffled about.
MissBling
MissBling
@Denzul, Thanks bro. I will sure enjoy her... But what? No way!! What happened to your ladies? And I hope your going to try again... MissB x
FlavoursUk
FlavoursUkweek 12
Nice looking harvest. Just wondering if she’s worth growing in a big outdoor plot. Keep up the good work
MissBling
MissBling
@FlavoursUk, Thank you my friend πŸ˜πŸ‘... I'd say go for it!! But please let me know if you do, so I can follow along... I would kust love to see how she would do outside πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ‘Œ Bet she'd be Incredible!! 😎 Much Love, MissB πŸ’•
ThatoneAKguy
ThatoneAKguyweek 13
Nice yield Miss! You are do pretty damn well in soil compared to many I see. What week do you start feeding them nutes? I started a little hydro project and am testing out 300 ppm on 1” seedlings to see how they respond.
MissBling
MissBling
@ThatoneAKguy, Thank you. Thats so nice to hear cos I really struggled in the beginning with my organic soil experiments and almost gave up hope! Ok so I dont feed any liquid nutes until after first 2 weeks. Just water. But I use worm castings and hypothetically speaking with the organic ingredients they should have everything they need already in the soil for first 4 weeks. Maybe even longer!! So I only feed 1ml per litre only for 3rd week and 1.5 for 4th. That's all they need the microbes do the rest for me πŸ€“πŸ‘ Oooohhhh.. I love experiments!! Sounds interesting. See how early you can start bulkinthem up πŸ˜ƒKeep me informed plz πŸ‘ŒπŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸ’• And I love watching your grows too. Very different to mine but I like that...I must admit I know very little about hydro but it interests me a lot πŸ˜ŠπŸ€“. Thanks for stopping by!! Much Love, MissB πŸ’•
Mattdaddy1
Mattdaddy1week 13
Wow!!
MissBling
MissBling
@Mattdaddy1, TY!! πŸ‘πŸ˜ƒπŸ’•
Buddha2
Buddha2week 3
Beautiful diary, congratulations on your big success! I'm planning to start a grow soon and also will go with BioBizz. But where the heck did you see a CalMag deficiency in week 3?
MissBling
MissBling
@Buddha2, Hey!! Thank you so much !!πŸ’• Super happy with this grow πŸ‘Œ. Calcium and magnesium... Yeah where I live has extremely low levels of cal and mag. Biobizz nutes and lightmix soil dont contain enough on their own for my girls. I use lime and Epsom salts... 1tbsp per gallon of soil every 6 weeks to keep my girls happy and topped up 😊 x
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 13
Nice sparkly buds πŸ€©πŸ’–. My previous grow ( my first ) I grew GG4. I was restricted to 5ft height. I let my plants veg for 8 weeks. I never researched " the stretch " my plants grew past my lights. It was the Amazon. Plus I never topped nor trained, so branches everywhere. I tied/bend back what I could. Then I learnt super cropping flowering week 4. Thumb & index finger rubbing of stems to soften the bend blow etc I can't say it made for a bigger yield as I have never grown before so no comparison. But it got my buds back under the lights. Although the science tells me it should increase yield. What I didn't get was shocked plants hermaphroditing on me. Not sure if that was sheer lπŸ€. Anyway that was just my experience.
MissBling
MissBling
@Puffer_Bill, supercropping is fab!! I got a Green crack fat as hell using that method of training. I do like experimenting 😊 x
magicUmbrella
magicUmbrellaweek 12
insane
MissBling
MissBling
@magicUmbrella, Thanks hunni πŸ‘πŸ‘Œ. She is a beauty 😊 Thanks for your support best of luck for your grows my friend. Much Love, Miss B x
Puffer_Bill
Puffer_Billweek 12
You got yourself some nice sparkling buds to enjoy. πŸ€©πŸ’–
MissBling
MissBling
@Puffer_Bill, Thank you Bill πŸ‘Œ. The smell is heavenly. She is drying and I am like a kid waiting for Christmas lol 🀣. Thank you, for your support bro πŸ€— All the best of luck to you... I will check your girls out now πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ Much Love, MissB x
ShotGunBob
ShotGunBobweek 12
Wow :() just wow
MissBling
MissBling
@@ShotGunBob, That is super kind of you my friend. This is my best one so far for sure. Cant wait to see what she weighs dry. Thanks so much for the encouragement Cant wait to see what your growing.... And finally... May all your harvests be bountiful my friend πŸ˜πŸ’• MissB x
AsNoriu
AsNoriuweek 9
MissB, Waiting for that link and thanks for sharing your know how. I will need couple years to get some statistics , but my atemts not bad aswell, check my flowering week 3 couple first photos .. Returnig to some experience sharing .. My grandad was teling me not to harm any plant till he is transplanted (so dont touch all veg time) and during that transplantation time you can shape him up a bit . And he never was transplanting plants till they dont reach certain maturity So i was trying the same on my plants, think stress is needed and must now ... Maybe ill change my mind later ;))))) One year we had worms infestation. Young tomato leafs where just eaten by them .. I dont know will you believe it, but that was one of most productive years, everybody liked to chat about that while eating tomatoes or just showing off infront of other gardeners ;))) So when i was reading about schwazzing (one of defoliation styles) i remembered that. The idea behind is not only light penetration, it is puting plants stress into your favour .. Plant after loosing most of his leaves and when he already midway into flower has a dilema what to do .. ussualy he put all efforts into next generation and thats all i need. Have two plants same height , same genetics. One was defoliated and bottom trimed another light defoliation and no trim or any clearing was done to it. Test is happening right now, but i already know the answer ;))) After two month i will be pure defoliation, lolitop and other stress believer ;)) Next run will go with two same girls, one will strip my way - in waves of stress and another will be your graduate style version ... We shall see. Thanks for your replay, keep on growing !
MissBling
MissBling
@AsNoriu, Excellent!! Let me know the results of your experiment bro πŸ€—πŸ‘... There are a ton of articles out there but this one I found really useful when deciding weather or not to defoliate.... Check it out... https://www-growweedeasy-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.growweedeasy.com/marijuana-defoliation-tutorial?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#aoh=15548111834366&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.growweedeasy.com%2Fmarijuana-defoliation-tutorial Look at the pictures. I had exactly the same results as this guy πŸ‘πŸ‘ŒπŸ˜Ž MissB x
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 8
Hey there so regarding the ph level...i believe any of the "carbonates" should work fine. Some people might choose a dolomite lime product which is the calcium magnesium carbonate or agricultural lime which ends up just being some form of limestone either broken down or dust and its just calcium carbonate. And many do just turn to baking soda. There's a good company out there called kisorganics.com and they've got excellent products that all focus on organic and sustainability. ✌️
MissBling
MissBling
@Experimentgreen, Thank u so much for your help. It's much appreciated :) xx Ok so... I topped up my lime and Epsom soil amendments last week (top dressed and watered in) so my soil should be around 7!! I am a little confused. All I can think is that feeding every single watering seems super excessive to me!! I think Salts and or nutes are building up over the weeks. I'm considering maybe feed then feed then water? Every week instead of feed feed feed. What do u think? Xx
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 7
hey there Ms.B. hope i answered your question, HST on a flowering auto might backfire but your other plants could maybe benefit if they're not too far along. If you need any more help just message me πŸ‘Š
MissBling
MissBling
Thanks so much Bulbi :)
sativadiva1
sativadiva1week 7
Ur training is excellent
MissBling
MissBling
Thanks Hunni!! I don't have much space and I'm growing 4 this time so I'm trying all the tricks in the book to max out space :)