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Strain
Super Orange Haze
Mephisto Genetics
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Neutral
Just harvested, so more to come on the strain itself once I get a chance to smoke her. This was my first grow, so take it with a grain of salt. She had root rot early on, and she got it early than the CDLC that was sharing a reservoir with her. She healed more slowly, and throughout the grow her roots were more stained and smaller than her CDLC partner. She would wilt at times with water and temp changes while the CDLC didn't notice a thing. As a beginner, I can't say for sure ... but either she's a bit finicky, or the CLDC is a super stable champ. One way or the other, she sustained through a long list of mistakes I made: 1. Didn't top her. 2. Accidentally broke off her main cola several weeks into flower 3. Let her get into the lights ... like ... within 6 inches. Enough to burn the tip of her main cola. 4. I trimmed flowering nodes late into the flower (trying to cut future larf). 5. Used shitty plant ties that dug into her branches She never showed any male flowers, she never stopped thriving, and at the end of the day she produced 850g wet weight. Despite my best efforts, she just never slowed down. I hope to get my hands on these genetics again so that I can grow her right and see what I can truly get with even a little bit skill! She smelled lovely throughout her flower. Trimming her was addictive, as the juice left my hands smelling like skittles for hours. Later in her flower, she became more pungent ... maybe a little cheesy? Her trichome progression was confusing for me, but maybe it was the stress and distance from the lights? At no point could I say that all were cloudy, but there were large patches of the plants where that was true. The ambering was similarly patchy. Where they showed up, they spread. _rapidly_ in week 11. I want a nice energetic smoke, so I was attempting to get as few ambers as possible. Growers beware ... her ambers are clear and you have about 2 weeks once they start showing up on the sugars. The 850g wet haul completely overloaded my standard size Herbsnow dryer. I had to remove one tray so I could fit the 4 fat colas, and stuff the other 3 layers to the max and was left with enough to carpet about 4 sq feet of cardboard box. Damn! I can't wait for the dry and cure, and I'll surely be back to update these notes! ***UPDATE 1*** Dried weight overall ended up at ~170g of which I kept 68g for smoking. The other 100g, I soaked in alcohol and then distilled down to about 1 ounce of dark brown nasty decarbed "tincture." I use those quotes because this first attempt was pretty bad, but it works. I dried the nugs in a MyHerbsNow dryer, and I'm not sure if I like it or not. They dried way too quickly... around 3 days to be crispy on the outside. I allowed them to puff back out just sitting in an open jar, and I've been doing the curing thing ever since (about 1.5wks curing, 2 weeks since harvest). Taste test still isn't on the table, as the smoke is too harsh. I'll update again in maybe 2-4 weeks once it's truly smokable.
The Outcome
Week 11
Harvest
What's on the scales?
170
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
850
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
1.22
ft²
Grow Room size
1.13
g / watt
139.47
g / m²
170
g / plant
0.82
plant / m²
123.06
watt / m²
Reviews. Nutrient
Seems to have worked.
Hydroguard is a life saver. When I got what I thought was root rot, all it took was a rinse and then consistent 5ml per gallon.
For now, I'll leave this review neutral. I'll try it again later, but when I used it initially it coincided with root rot showing up. Did it cause it? I don't know. Orca has the same bacteria as Hydroguard but then a lot more stuff including some strains of fungus, so I thought it would be protective. As I said before, I'll try it a few more times and see if I get any sort of consistent meaningful results.
Reviews. Lamp
Amazing. I tried a blurple light initially, but it was too hot. Switched over the Mars, and my tent was immediately much more manageable. Plants absolutely loved the light, and even when I let my nugs get within inches of the light, they we *mostly ok. The low profile on these babies is really nice when you're sweating your first grow's height!
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agricola agricola
5 years ago
Just harvested, so more to come on the strain itself once I get a chance to smoke her. This was my first grow, so take it with a grain of salt. She had root rot early on, and she got it early than the CDLC that was sharing a reservoir with her. She healed more slowly, and throughout the grow her roots were more stained and smaller than her CDLC partner. She would wilt at times with water and temp changes while the CDLC didn't notice a thing. As a beginner, I can't say for sure ... but either she's a bit finicky, or the CLDC is a super stable champ. One way or the other, she sustained through a long list of mistakes I made: 1. Didn't top her. 2. Accidentally broke off her main cola several weeks into flower 3. Let her get into the lights ... like ... within 6 inches. Enough to burn the tip of her main cola. 4. I trimmed flowering nodes late into the flower (trying to cut future larf). 5. Used shitty plant ties that dug into her branches She never showed any male flowers, she never stopped thriving, and at the end of the day she produced 850g wet weight. Despite my best efforts, she just never slowed down. I hope to get my hands on these genetics again so that I can grow her right and see what I can truly get with even a little bit skill! She smelled lovely throughout her flower. Trimming her was addictive, as the juice left my hands smelling like skittles for hours. Later in her flower, she became more pungent ... maybe a little cheesy? Her trichome progression was confusing for me, but maybe it was the stress and distance from the lights? At no point could I say that all were cloudy, but there were large patches of the plants where that was true. The ambering was similarly patchy. Where they showed up, they spread. _rapidly_ in week 11. I want a nice energetic smoke, so I was attempting to get as few ambers as possible. Growers beware ... her ambers are clear and you have about 2 weeks once they start showing up on the sugars. The 850g wet haul completely overloaded my standard size Herbsnow dryer. I had to remove one tray so I could fit the 4 fat colas, and stuff the other 3 layers to the max and was left with enough to carpet about 4 sq feet of cardboard box. Damn! I can't wait for the dry and cure, and I'll surely be back to update these notes! ***UPDATE 1*** Dried weight overall ended up at ~170g of which I kept 68g for smoking. The other 100g, I soaked in alcohol and then distilled down to about 1 ounce of dark brown nasty decarbed "tincture." I use those quotes because this first attempt was pretty bad, but it works. I dried the nugs in a MyHerbsNow dryer, and I'm not sure if I like it or not. They dried way too quickly... around 3 days to be crispy on the outside. I allowed them to puff back out just sitting in an open jar, and I've been doing the curing thing ever since (about 1.5wks curing, 2 weeks since harvest). Taste test still isn't on the table, as the smoke is too harsh. I'll update again in maybe 2-4 weeks once it's truly smokable.
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Grow Questions
agricola
agricolastarted grow question 5 years ago
I believe I have a case of root rot. Pic attached. I just added Orca in the morning, and noticed orange foam and these roots literally hours later. Water was still under 70 from the res change sunday afternoon. Currently 68. I rinsed in tap, they look a little better. ;(
Solved
Roots. Color - Brown
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Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfanswered grow question 5 years ago
@agricola Hi mate yes that is root rot and is more than liely caused from your nutrient solution being too warm When I grow with DWC I like to keep mine at around 17-18c as this keeps the plant happy as well as inhibiting the bad rot fom growing It can also act as a buffer if you have a slight temp spike it won't go into the danger zone but if you keep your res warmer than say 19 you run the risk of rot if it wanders higher over time . Also what is orca? is it organic? Dont mix organic with synthetics in hydro it rarely ends well
agricola
agricolastarted grow question 5 years ago
Is it better to start flushing too early, or too late? I'm going for the most sativa effects I can, which leads me to believe I want as much cloudy and as few amber trichomes as possible. Also leads me to think that "too early" is the better mistake to make.
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HiddenColorado
HiddenColoradoanswered grow question 5 years ago
Would start flushing now, but I would be checking trichomes about 4 inches down from top to get the average. I made the mistake once checking top trichomes. I thought the plant was ready but in reality it had 2 more weeks
agricola
agricolastarted grow question 5 years ago
My ghost nug grew up on the side of the tent blocked from light. She has trichs, looks super light yellow (see pics). My question is, wouldn't this be desirable? Less chlorophyll to wait on before smoking? Has anyone tried to maybe light deprive parts of their colas?
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyanswered grow question 5 years ago
hi buddy the chlorophile evaporates when drying and fermenting :-) you will see that as soon as the green breaks down from the bloom ;-)
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommentedweek 85 years ago
Nice plant :-) big roots 😎
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanycommented5 years ago
@agricola,many Thanks bro 🙏🏻
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@MadeInGermany, Thanks! Next time around, I'm going to do way better :). Your pictures are pretty awesome. I wish I could rotate my setup and take video like you do, it looks great!
HiddenColorado
HiddenColoradocommentedweek 95 years ago
It is also rare for a photoperiod to be ready in 5 weeks the normal and average is 7 weeks. Good luck from Colorado
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@@HiddenColorado Ah yes, I need to put into the title that these are autos! I believe Mephisto only does autos? I went and charted out ~40 diaries of the closest mephisto strains to their Super Orange Haze (not many diaries for this strain) and the average chop time was about 11 weeks. I found a grower on the forums that had run these genetics twice, and their chop times were totally different. One was day 92 and the. other was I think day 70 (IIRC). These ladies drive me crazy and I end up spending hours trying to divine some formula on how to treat them perfectly... but it all may as well be voodoo to me at this point. 😂
HiddenColorado
HiddenColoradocommentedweek 85 years ago
After going back and looking at week 8 I would say they have 3 to 4 weeks left. Week 9 being one of the weeks. I would harvest between week 11 and 12.
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@@HiddenColorado Thanks, after reading on this for days, I think you (and many others) are right and that I should feed the girls for at least another 1-1.5 weeks and reevaluate then. <3
MarsHydroLED
MarsHydroLEDcommentedweek 95 years ago
Beautiful! 👍🙌
agricola
agricolacommented5 years ago
@MarsHydroLED Thanks! Your light has been powering the Super Orange Haze for most of her life now, and it's helping to produce a great result so far :).
Ginger_gnome
Ginger_gnomecommentedweek 105 years ago
man those look like there going to be some tasty buds when your done. Good job.