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Luma or marshydro fc

jihun
jihunstarted grow question 2 years ago
Hi Guys,What do you think that of 2 different lights?1. Lumatek Zeus series2. MarsHydrio FC seriesWhich is the better? ( or other hq led)I know the Mars is better price,but i would like to know which is the better in real life ? (No price to value to ratio,real experience.
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 2 years ago
Okay, the lumaatek site loaded.. onyl the pro 2,9 series would be comparable to the FC series lights. BAH no nono to zeus... lumileds .. some knockoff LED fuck that. only if it's half the prie. omg the price they want is insanely high for the 450w and i'm sure the 600w too. holy shit.. fuck that noise. Same or better quality and much better prices on the FC series... also, think it's a bit warmer CCT, which i prefer. and, genuine samsung diodes vs some knock-offs that are guarnateed to be lowest bin possible, bc that's what you license out to 3rd party companies if you are samsung.. always get the dumbed-down recipes licensed out. general info Efficacy is bigget key. but also the chip maker. if third-party they don't get the design for best chips. they can still be a legit high-efficacy, but what other corners were cut in manufacturing those lumileds? Daily Light Integral is best way to communicate about this stuff. hours of use and area of coverage are baked into it. it is apples to apples. 35DLI for you is 35DLI for me. local environment will impact how much you or i can give. Whether oyu have ambient or added co2 may make a differenec in choice too. figure 35-40 DLI for ambient co2 and 50-60 DLI for consistently maintained 1300ppm co2 levels and push higher in that 50-60 if you more tightly control temps and RH. Carbon is your limiting factor to growth. use a DLI table to work backward from hours of use - this gives you "ppfd." multiply PPFD by area of coaverage in meters-squared and that's the umol/s you want to be produced from a light you buy, roughly (ballpark idea not written in stone for max you can give). i have a folder with useful charts and such, including a dli spreadsheet in my good drive link on my GD profile. click my avatar, sort by date. it'll be at top. ignore the min/max page on the dli chart spreadsheet, it shouldn't be there. it's too high for ambient co2. (43 dli) Read up on DLI on the wiki page. it's got good info. Okay, the lumaatek site loaded.. only the pro 2,9 series would be comparable to the FC series lights. The FCE series had bridgelux chips - slightly less efficient, slightly cheaper. i haven't looked at that price difference lately, but the nicer diodes are worth it, imho. Unless cost is significantly different or you are getting the FCE for free etc... go with FC-series. Anyway, shoot for 40DLI and you'll be able to give the max light your environment allows with ambient co2. if you have to dim, it'll be no more than 5-10% or maybe an extra inch of distance from canopy would be enough. This is only a good thing. As all lights dim over time, you can mitigate this over 50,000 hours of use (50k hours is typically the point it is 90% of original intensity if run at samsumg spec sheet amps and volts, whic fc series does and likely the zeus does relative to lumileds specs i bet.) you only get that 50k hours of use if near spec sheet testing parameters. check out lm301b on samsung com. good read. anything run 'hotter' loses longevity and dims faster. they have longevity curves for 0,25w per diode and 25C temps on diode. any more watts or higher temps means less longevity. not trying to scare, but worth putting a fan over the light even though it isn't needed. might get you another year of solid use. Talking 7 years if used year round and if oyu only do a cycle or 2 per year, it'll last 2-4x as long, lol.. i've got lights that i only put a couple thousand hours per year... they will last me 2 decades.
Benzels
Benzelsanswered grow question 2 years ago
Dont touch the Zeus. I have not heard of many people running them and have not heard anything good about them. If I have not heard of them doing good things from the circle of growers I know, then they are either way over priced but decent or a rip off and cheap crap. I just grabbed a SpiderFarmer SE3000 for my 3x3 and its more than enough for me. Yes I do have a more expensive flower specific ChilLEd Growcraft X3 Mini 2ooW, and id suggest these guys before the Zeus crap, then stick with either SpiderFarmer or Mars for a decent light at a good price... The hyphotonflux HPF range is prob the light Id point you at if you want something a bit better than the Mars & SpiderFarmer but cheaper than the ChilLed Growcraft lights. The HPF3000 is on sale too atm with free shipping, based on other growers results im tempted to grab one of these also to run. If you cant pick a light from the list ive given you, then I cant help you if you dont like the light you end up choosing. Ive helped alot of eople choose lights, I have 4 diff ones for a single tent myself to play with. I like lights. Best of luck mate.
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Chubbs
Chubbsanswered grow question 2 years ago
I run the HLG650R from Horticulture Lighting Group and was skeptical because the price but my plants have tripled in yields since switching from HPS to these. Happy Growing
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
FC series is excellent in real life. Unless the lumatek waters and mixes nutes, no way it’s worth the extra money IMO.
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