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2020
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Germination
2 years ago
Welcome to my F1 Milky Way sponsored by RQS. Will be doing a 75 Light Mix soil with 20% coco and 5% perlite. Will be started in RQS soil plugs. GOW, (or in my case, cap of water). Then it'll be moved into papertowels. Seeds, looked different compared to other seeds I've gotten in the past. Much lighter in color. And big for autos. F1 versions. After 24hrs they'll be moved to Papertowel until I see a tap root at around 25c. Will update more on this after. 1 Failed. Well, whatever way it came out of the husk. It was too early. And, she got sun burnt. So, another took a few days to get going. As I was hoping the other 1 would of pult through. But, wasn't the case. Thanks to my sponsor, (rep) for the great products. Looking forward to trying their nutrients. And the F1 milky way auto. Will be breaking out my FC 3000 for flowering.
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Glass Of Water
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Week 1. Vegetation
2 years ago
5 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6
310 PPM
65 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 1
Easy Grow Booster Tablets - RQS Organic Nutrients
Easy Grow Booster Tablets 0.33 mll
Welcome to my Milky Way F1 Auto by & sponsored RoyalQueenSeeds. Seedling Days: Pheno 1. 0-4 Going really well. Nice steady growth. No excess stretching. SD-5-6 & my other pheno just popped her head up. As the roots aren't that deep. I'll be picking up a handful of substrate to add both to 5gallon fiber pots. Added some Easy Orgaic Grow Tab to pheno 1. She's just pulling into day 6. SD7 Z She's doing well added RQS booster tabs just a 200ppm mix. 1 tab to 1.6L.. They suggest 3tabs to 5L. 3/7th Pheno 2: just popped her head up. SD0. A successful germ. Got through her 1st day. Looks promising. SD1-7 seedlin has been doing well. I've seen quicker. But my rooms RH is set at 50. So, and just by using damp towel I've been able to bring it to 60%. Think I'm going to put my exhaust on a timer. So the RH will go up. Also temps, which is why I've been not keen to implement it. But, if I blow 1 the fan on the driver/ light. I can't see it reaching above 25-26c.. I'm vegging my F1(s) under my p1000 and, will be flowered under my FC 3000. Thanks to my sponsor, (rep) from RQS.
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Week 2. Vegetation
2 years ago
7 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6
310 PPM
65 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
15 L
0 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 2
Easy Grow Booster Tablets - RQS Organic Nutrients
Easy Grow Booster Tablets 0.33 mll
FIRE YIELDS - MICROBIAL PROTECT - TERRA POWER
FIRE YIELDS - MICROBIAL PROTECT 2 mll
Welcome to my F1 milky way Auto Topped Vs Untopped Diary sponsored by Royal Queen Seeds. PHENO 1 SD8-9 + Veg Day 1-3. 13th Day. P2 SD 8-10. Both ladies are doing great. Getting to the point where I'm going to be pushing a transplant for pheno 1 late. "Poxy site I buy from acting the Idiots". Think I'll have to fly to my local grow store 2moro. But, they're doing well. I'm going to introduce some Enzymes from Terra Power. Am going to keep pushing the base nutes from RQS. And will look into buying more of their products over the next week. I'll see. But, as they are, they look good. And on very similar courses when you look over pheno 1/2(s) days. Pheno 1 (14th D Veg Day 4). Growth still going as expected. Nothing rapid but again. That's down to my Grow rooms RH set by Dehumidifier at 45-50%. I've set up a wet/damp towel that helps with RH by 60% in this tent. Pheno 2 (11th Day Veg Day 1). Pushing through. Looks very nice and healthy. A little bit behind her sister. Haven't decided which 1 I'll be topping. Both will be placed in 11L or 15L pots, "still tbd". As described in RQS, these are autos. But they are true F1s as they use 2 crosses "inbreds" to create these rare strains. Making for a more reliable auto(s) that should have more or less similar traits. Making them more predictable, and much easier to scrog and get an even canopy..hence why I'm not doing 2 different types of grows. Untopped vs Topped. For the topped I'll be growing her sideways. Hopin to get colas that will reach 50-70cm. Hopefully the same height the untopped version will reach. She'll be LST'ed and defoliation will be carried out before the flip, as you have about half a wk when you can tell, she'll throwing herself into flowering. And then after the stretch. I'll take to it again with defol. Pheno 2 Veg Days 2-3 12&13th Day(s) COUPON CODES Mars Hydro "ggs" for 3% discount at any mars site. Zamneisa, GROWITGD 20% discount on their own site. Shout out to my sponsors from Zamneisa & Mars Hydro. Thanks for all your support and sending me great products. (Reps) Thanks to all who viewed, liked or commented thus far. Much appreciated, and happy growing.
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Week 3. Vegetation
2 years ago
13 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6
670 PPM
60 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
11 L
0 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 6
Jungle Juice Grow - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Grow 0.3 mll
Jungle Juice Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Bloom 0.3 mll
Jungle Juice Micro - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Micro 0.1 mll
Welcome to my Untopped Vs Topped Milky Way F1 Autos. Pheno 1 Veg Days 15-21 (Topped Day 16) Has gone well. Slower growth than expected at this stage. Gonna put it down to been at the side of the pots. Only good thing. Both P1 & P2 had a slow rate of growth. So, I'm nearly sure it's down to this. Lots of stress and broken roots getting them out of that pot. 3 autos in 1 pot, I will not be doing again, especially not for this long. Gave Atlas to help brake down any roots, as also I reused soil for both plants. Biobizz coco & light mix. Has responded well to been topped and nodes are growing. So there's that. And all seems healthy. I topped above the 3rd and decided to go with 2 sets instead as the top set was way behind. Pheno 2 Veg Days 15-17 (Untopped) Not going so bad. Again, was uppoted to an 11L. Nice and healthy. Growth a bit slower than expected. But I think it's another case of her been to close to the points edge. The next weeks growth should reveal all. There's 3-4 Days difference between them. Again, healthy. Should see if there's any heavy impact by lack of growth or whatever from a rough uppot. Was and will be treated like pheno 1. Nutrients used: Advanced Nutrients Jungle juice Trio Both phenos have been given a low feed. Just drops of the micro add 2/3rds of this ppm. Very very powerful micro. Is one of the best of the strongest Ml/L of a nutrient I've used to date. 3:1 Ratio G,M:B 670ppm 5.9PH. Terra Powers mixed enzyme collection Atlas & Artios Touch was given in response to their rough uppot. Artios Touch is for stress while Atlas will help break down leftover roots and that. Great for uppotting. Adjusted its PH from 6.5 to 6.1 Thanks to my sponsor from Royal Queen Seeds. Both plants will be going under my FC 3000 & IR/UV45 for the flip"wenever that is"/flowering.
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Topping
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Week 4. Vegetation
2 years ago
20 cm
20 hrs
26 °C
6
Weak
670 PPM
60 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
11 L
0 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 6
Jungle Juice Grow - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Grow 0.3 mll
Jungle Juice Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Bloom 0.1 mll
Jungle Juice Micro - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Micro 0.3 mll
Welcome to my F1 MilkyWay Auto Diary, sponsored my RQS. Veg Days 21-28 Pheno1 Veg Days 21-28pheno2 Both plants have recovered are doing well. Not wanting for much. Neither has blown me away with their growth but, the conditions are far from optimal. RH is too low. 10&15% of fan leafs removed, 24-36hrs apart from pheno1 "topped" & 10% from Pheno 2 on Day 28 DIET Has been kept on a 3:1:3 / G:B:M Ratio. 635-670ppm feeds. 5.9-6ph. 15-16c temp. And once a wk. They get enzyme feed(s) each. Both are kept on the exact same nutrients and ppm/ph/sol.temp At the moment, I'm dealing with fungus Gnats aka fruit flies. Yes, they are somewhat harmless but the young feed off the fine root hairs, that and their disgusting. Hammering the shit out of them with Fruit Fly traps. Just waiting for all tops to dry. And will dose with DE "Pesticide version" is very fine and cuts into and kills larva without causing any damage to your plant or its roots. It's 100% organic and washes into the substrate.
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Defoliation
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1st set of weak nodes removed pheno 2
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Week 5. Vegetation
2 years ago
25 cm
20 hrs
26 °C
6
Weak
670 PPM
60 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
11 L
0 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 6
Jungle Juice Grow - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Grow 0.3 mll
Jungle Juice Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Bloom 0.1 mll
Jungle Juice Micro - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Micro 0.3 mll
Welcome to my Milkyway F1 Auto Diary "Topped Vs Untopped" sponsored by RQS. Veg Days: Topped 29-35 Untopped 29-32 Both plants have been really good. Really easy growers. A bit surprised they haven't flipped yet. Thankful though. They've vegged really well. And there's a lot of good growth there. Nice nodes on both. Will make for nice bud sites that'll allow a lot of light to hit them. They've both responded well to the jungle juice trio & enzymes. They both took a good bit of shock. But they're strong gentics and recovery was quick and no flip, which is always a worry after shocking an auto. "They both had a really rough transplant, they were in a 4gal pot with Frosted Guava. Atlas was given to break down and broken roots and turn them into beneficial nutrition for 2 wks (4 feeds). Also, there was a lot of old roots, as I reused my light/coco mix from Biobizz "which they say is completely fine, that and they're inert. You just need something to turn dead growth into mycelium/beneficial nutrition. (UNTOPPED) pheno 2: 25.5cm 32nd Veg Day. Multiple defoliations 10-15% max, will apply LST this wk (edited: LST & Hard defoliation was done, not my best work. And, maybe I removed too much growth. Only time will tell. Hopefully she'll veg another few days before flipping. They're very close. This one was defoled a lot, especially through the past week. Only applied LST this wk & the last defoliation was done today (Veg Day 32). The 1st set of nodes, "which usually don't add up to much, were removed and a few shoots that wouldn't of amounted to much that were on the starts of the nodes, "closest to the main stem". (TOPPED) Pheno1 23.5cm 35th Veg Day, multiple defoliations. 10-15% max. Will apply LST this week. I reckon this will be her last few days of veg. (Edited: a good bit of defoliation done on this one. Did a good bit today, this will be the last of it before it flips. Applied her LST, was much harder to do than the Untopped 1, her top set of nodes had made 2 knuckles making it hard to bend the top. I'll see the LST take shape much more when they flip. Removed the few shoots that were deep inside the plant close to the stem on the nodes. Day 33 applied more defol making sure to take the fan leafs attached to new shoots that are just popping to halt there growth and making them "hopefully flip close to nodes making for colas and not buds Heights, Defoliation & LST Lights...P1000 for veg. 100% 45ish/cm away. FC 3000 or Hopefully in a week r 2, they'll be under a FC4800 with increased co2 with full co2 kit in a much better 3x3 tent. Pref a DR90, will see how much all this co2 crap cost. I've placed both plants at the back of both corners. Hopefully this will even the ppfd for both plants. Defol more taking fan leafs from nodes (the shoots that draw energy for them) i want to halt their growth and so when they flip. They'll be close to the nodes. Added Terra Power La Calvera aka voodoo juice. "On my last few mls".
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LST
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Defoliation
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Week 6. Vegetation
2 years ago
28 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
Weak
760 PPM
60 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
11 L
0 L
40 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 8
Jungle Juice Grow - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Grow 0.3 mll
Jungle Juice Bloom - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Bloom 0.1 mll
Jungle Juice Micro - Advanced Nutrients
Jungle Juice Micro 0.3 mll
Welcome to my F1 MilkyWay Auto Diary sponsored by RQS. Veg Days: 36-342/36-42 Pheno 1/2 Both plants are doing really well. Nice lush green. No defs/toxs or any dying leafs. Everything is been hit by light. Thereabouts. They're both showing signs of their sex and throwing out Pistils. (Edit for Pheno 2 Days 40-42 plant is staring her run into pre flower. Looking healthy.. but, for some reason. When both plants go into darkness. They get all droopy for at least an hr. And then the light kicks it back into gear. I've never had this issues. Nor does any of my other autos Pheno No.2 Untopped. Pheno No.1 Topped Diet: Jungle Juice Trio: Grow, Bloom, Micro is still going strong. 3:1:3 Ratio. 630-670ppm 5.9-6.1ph. Also they've both been on different Terra Power Enzymes/Bud Ehancer. I've added Fortuna it Jst lightly bumps the ppm up by 70-80. Defoliation: Done another 10%, taking the main fan leafs of both phenos. Lights: P/SF 1000(s) were added both 100w. Different light spectrums. I've moved both plants up to 40cm away and light(s) are turned up to 100%
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Week 7. Flowering
2 years ago
35.36 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.4
Weak
510 PPM
55 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
11 L
0 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 6
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Silic Rock - PLAGRON.
Silic Rock 1 mll
Welcome to my Milkyway F1 Auto Diary, sponsored by RQS. Summary Pheno 1 Topped & Pheno 2 Untopped Prepariing to flip days 43 (Pre Flower Days 1-5-Days 44-49) Both plants are like clockwork, they're flipping the exact same days, Have vegged the exact same amount of days. Although Pheno 1 is 4 days ahead, I've kept pics of pheno 2 up-to-date with pheno 1 "topped" days. These 2 were hit along with all plants that got fed Mystical Green, "is used to balance PH" i hardly ever need to use it. But instead of using my PH adjuster I used this to bring PH to 6. And within 24hrs it looked as though they'd be starved of mag for a wk that's how far ahead they looked. I flushed both plants, and thankfully they're back on track. I changed everything to Plagron. I took the badly damaged leafs off, as I had to know if the things were getting worse, plagron saved the day. I used Vita Race "Foliar spray" and silic rock to help strengthen the plants. They did take a little step back in their progress but, they're back on track now. Both are looking well. Will carry their war wounds thru their entire grow now, so that's pic appeal out the window, I'm just glad the issue is fixed. Pheno2 The untopped is going to have a lovely colas. She's really compact and her side nodes are developing nicely. Pheno 1, "topped" is also back to herself and has a nice even canopy that is developing nicely also. Heights Pheno 1 "Topped" is at 34.5cm Pheno 2 "untopped" is at 36cm Lights P/SF 1000 set at 100% 45 cm away. As Pre Flower is still a growth stage. PPM/PH Base feeds you need to use a good amount of ML/L. 4ml just pushed my ppm past 500 after Silic Rock, Power roots, pure zym pushed it to 220 and then base nute was used to reach current ppm, with everything the PH sits at 6.4. Although when they're out of pre flower Green Sensation will be given and then a lower dose of Base feed will be required. Terpinator is given in a solo feed, she adds a fair bit ppm wise, 410ppm and 6.1ph. Diet/Defoliation/Flushes At the start of the week. I was giving Terra Power Fire Yields and to even out the PH, I used Mystical Green, and also used it for artios touch for my other plants, and it hit everything hard with what looked like a serious mag issue, even the week old seedling showed symptoms. I flushed everything that was given Terra Power Enzymes and changed everything to Plagron, 3x the value of each pot was given, so the 11L pots got 30L of water. I don't know if was because my Substrate was to warm, but their enzynes had such a negative affect it nearly kilt my girls. Thankfully, a few of plagrons best came to the rescue, Power Roots has restimilated both plants are throwing out brand new roots, "pics above" also vita race was used as a foliar spray, 'meant to be once a week, but as they were so bad they got dosed twice' Silic Rock & Pure Zym were added to their Base nutrient Alga Bloom. Also, for Terp-taste I added Terpinator to their diet. Defoliation was done on day 43 and i had to take a few troubled leafs early into pre flower, as I needed to see was the problem getting worse. They were stalled a few days but have started growing again and are back on track.
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Week 8. Flowering
2 years ago
37.39 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.4
Weak
510 PPM
55 %
16 °C
19 °C
19 °C
11 L
1 L
45 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 6
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 1 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Silic Rock - PLAGRON.
Silic Rock 1 mll
Welcome to my Milkyway F1 Auto Diary sponsored by RQS. Pre Flower Days 6-11 Days 50-56 wk 8 Thankfully both phenos are back at full tilt. And working hard to push through pre flower. When it's over. I'll try up my co2 and keep my temp between 29-31c and RH around 70-75% with 3 fans. I don't think I'll have the temperature to hold that in my grow room. But a sealed tent 70cm2 that I'll vent every 30-60m (all depending if I can hold RH/TEMP levels. Co2 level desire won't be an Issue. I've one of the best kits on the market. Both plants are healthy and happy. Only thing. I'm worried about Plagron Enzymes (pure zym) and Co2 with such a hot substrate i might get a bad reaction. Especially with Power Roots. So this will be Power Roots last feed for this wk. And I'll also pull Zym and I'll be adding Sugar Royal & Terpinator for increased sugar. I'm still trying to figure out the best approach. But, I'm not sure. I think sealed tents are not for me. Too much work. That, and my controller isn't made for regulation of Temp/RH by fan control. Best I can do Is figure out when/ and what rates my plants consume co2 and guess when to put my timers on and off for Exhaust and Co2 Valve. Diet On a Full line of Plagron, base nutrients, silic rock, pure zym, & Terpinator. Basic bloom Feeds are 490ppm with everything in. Terpinator is 390-400ppm 6.1ph. Heights 37 pheno1 "topped" & 39cm pheno 2 "untopped" Co2 Ambient level is 1150 but without high temperatures. No co2 in the world will help. Lights P/SF 1000(s) 850-900umol. Both lights have different spectrums. But both seem to be doing well. The issue has passed with the plants falling into a droopy stage when the lights go out. It seems to have stopped. I'll add my FC 3000 if and when I add co2. As I consider Pre Flower a growth stage. I've not added what lights I'm using for flowering. As I've yet to make that choice. They might be going under my one of my FC(s). Thanks to my sponsor from RQS. Much appreciated to all who viewed, liked &/R commented. Look forward to seen your diaries. Either way thanks for dropping by. Coupons Marshydro "ggs" 3% Discount Zamneisa "GROWITGD" 20% Discount
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Week 9. Flowering
2 years ago
41.43 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.4
Strong
690 PPM
70 %
16 °C
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
1 L
25 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 9
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Silic Rock - PLAGRON.
Silic Rock 1 mll
Vita Race - PLAGRON.
Vita Race 2.5 mll
Welcome to my MilkyWay F1 Topped/Untopped Diary sponsored by RQS. Topped/Untopped Phenos 1/2 Pre Flower Days 12-15, Flower Days 1-4 Days 57-64. Plants are quick. Didn't put on much height during pre flower. 43 cm for the Topped (pheno 2), and 41 for untopped (pheno 1). The pistils surprisingly are 50/50 amber/white. They're in the fattening stage only a few days. I've added co2 for 12hrs and then they are going under my P1000 for 6hrs. Hoping to see some big buds. They are moving quickly. So, let's see. I've added a 13-14 PK booster from plagron with a few of their other products. With the 12hrs of extra heat and co2, they'll be needing a lot more nutrition. Diet/Defoliation/Temperature Was on a Full Plagron natural line and a few of their other products, and I've added a 13/14 PK booster, with fish force and a few others. I done a 10-15% defoliation removing many fan leafs, focusing on the middle to allow better airflow was done after pre flower. And more will be done coming into her next week "10" and light lollipoppoing at the end to clear any possible larf areas was done this wk. So, what's therenow will be brought to harvest, a lot is very far away, so I need to get a blue HID I think to control tight Inter nodes in veg, I'll do this as I gain more experience. 28-29c is maintained for the co2 addition and under the P1000 the temp is brought back down to 26c with no additional co2. And ppfd is lowered to 850 ppfd but its a deep penetrative led light I'll give it that. Actually it carries the highest ppfd into your canopy than any 100w out there, and this is the 2021 version. They've an upgrade. Much respect to Vipar, this light and the Spiderfarmer have been my veg lights the past Yr, and this yr I've used these both and they've produced some quality bud. The cbg is done fully under them and the plant is amazing. Diet, Shes on the Full Plagron Natural line, soil and all. "Pro mix" with mega worms to add later. With PK, green sensation, fish force, power roots, vita race, "dummies sent me 2x of these instead of Start" Silic Rock, Pure Zym Sugar Royal. And Terpinator. "Power Roots has been pult, its time recommended by plagron. The roots are plenty and they drink close to 1L of fluids a day. Normally I don't like given so much stuff. But all are different, (expect Terpinator and SR they've the same purpose but its only 1 feed of the Terpinator a wk, by itself 370ppm 6.1ph 15.5c temp.. Co2 Co2 is maintained at 1000-1300ppm for 12hrs. And then when they go back under my p1000 they get ambient co2 levels 675ppm. The co2 is been ate at 350ppm every hr. Mind you most of these girls aren't hitting a high ppfd that's needed to convert into sugars. I've shuffled my 3 fans. 2 fans 1 on the top left blowing above canopy and 1 on the other side. A small one is at the bottom that keeps the heavy co2 off the ground. And my moving my fans, the co2 went from 1000 to 1300 shows, right air-flow is paramount. Thankfully I've a sensor that reads every second and is so sensitive it allows you to move your fans and shows how much longer co2 lasts if kept at an level with the foliage.. WARNING: Co2, is no joke. You can die from inproper use. I fully advise if anything you get a top sensor at least to known your levels and then you can jerry rig whatever. If not using a full kit. I highly urge to have it only in use while you're there to monitor it. No way should it be left on. As co2 is heavy it'll flow down your stairs and your beloved pets will be the 1st to suffer. It doesn't take a lot of gas even from a 1L bottle to fill a 12x12M room to 500ppm.. mine does 3x1L bursts every hr at 0.00001L a burst. Thanks to my rep James's for the seeds & merch. The rolling tray is constant use. My bird sings its praises. The grinder, possibly the best out for grinding. Goes through wet bud like dry. It grinds it that well. When I'm trying the get a small of her tetpine profile. COUPONS Spider-Farmer "ggst" EU (for now) 3% Mars-Hydro "ggs" WW 3% Zamneisa "GROWITGD" 20%
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Week 10. Flowering
2 years ago
41.43 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
6.4
Strong
690 PPM
70 %
16 °C
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
1 L
25 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 8
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Silic Rock - PLAGRON.
Silic Rock 1 mll
Alga Bloom - PLAGRON.
Alga Bloom 3 mll
Welcome to my Milkyway F1 Diary sponsored by RQS. Pheno 2 & 1 Days 64-73 Flower Days 5-14 wk 10.5 Both phenos, are doing good, even though there was Topped/Untopped Phenos they didn't stray to far from their linage. The Untopped has nice cola and her side nodes are about 4-5cm below the main cola. The topped has a lovely even canopy. Both plants are small but have a nice bit of bud. But, they're not huge. I defo went half way into fattening under a 100watt. I did move to co2. But, too late for these. They need a lot of light to get big buds. 100watts don't cut it, well not with these phenos. Both girls are full at hard. So, they're well into ripening. Still gonna push forward with the co2 as the temp is crazy. It's 27.5-28 with exhaust on full. I've 1 seed left. So, I'm defo gonna try it under my SE5000 with full co2, (depends if the bud is nice). It's a pity they went into the high co2/ppfd too late. I'm going to be setting up my SE5000 today. So all plants will finish under that. As will all my plants except seedlings. (As it'll be ran at 100%. And the temp in my big tent is 29-30c, so, just can't put seedlings under it. I'll give it a go with 1 and see what happens. The bud has a lovely blueberry smell. Touch of skunk or gas, it's a bit hard to tell at this stage. Buds themselves are in their last push. They had a real long veg, and a super quick flower period. Lights Seedling, veg, Pre Flower, 2/3rds Fatthing were done under my SF-1000 & P1000. Was moved under my FC3000 in hopes to get some bud explosion, as some other plants, even the nearly done Frosted Guava Auto put out 1/3rd extra bud, in ripening. Yes, it's mainly larf. But, its bud nonetheless. SE5000 is been used for 16hrs now my flowering fems are just about finished. Diet/Defoliation On full Plagron natural line and a few of their other top products. Along with Terpinator. Light Defoliation was done on both girls. But, I really for the most part let them be. And, the bud is as thich above as it is below.
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Week 12. Flowering
2 years ago
41.43 cm
17 hrs
33 °C
6.4
Strong
690 PPM
60 %
16 °C
19 °C
24 °C
11 L
2 L
25 cm
1100 PPM
Nutrients 9
nutrients stop 9-10 days 10 mll
Pure Zym - PLAGRON.
Pure Zym 1 mll
Silic Rock - PLAGRON.
Silic Rock 1 mll
Welcome to my MilkyWay F1 Auto Diary, Untopped VS topped. Results are in. Days 71-82 ripening 0-13 week 11&12 Went well. She did bulk up a tad. But not much. They spent most their lives under a 100w. But, the bud is really dense all over. No larf, at all. Its a really good quality of bud I'm getting from both phenos. As far as ToppedVsUntopped well, that result is in. With a seeds used from the same pack (same parent) making true F1s as they need to be from the same batch. It why we all got different phenos, and those who ran more than 1, from their seeds, the phenos are very close. One of mine had more of a fade and looks more purple. Both smell very lovely & fruity. Nice trichome production with very dense but, rather small buds if I do say so. But the grade itself is very high. (As grade is not rated on size) overall both turned out very similar. Even fade wise, they've both developed a lovely colour finishing under high co2 environment with the SE5000 really has brought out a lot of fade i normally do not get. look at the start. It was only a few days under this light and the past 14 days they've both popped. I will also say. A lot of their life was spent under a 12-12 (3/5s of flowering). Topped VS Untopped pheno 2 & 1 Are very similar as I've stated this area will be filt in with harvest comments. Bud smell. How the dry went. And after a weeks cure. I'll rate it. So watch this space. These 2 phenos have been on just water for 10 days. I did a quick run off test. Got back 145ppm my tap is 110. So, they're good to go. Trichome wise. 95% cloudy 30-35% amber. (Hard to see, I'll try get pics with my scope) but, as you see. Both are fully ripened. Anymore and its just bud deg. Both plants leaves are showing end of life. Some are dying. (I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE LEAVES AND SEEN THEY'VE BEEN DEAINED, ITS NOT BR) Lights The SE5000 was used for the Ripening phase. With high temps and co2 i pushed my boundaries and got a lovely fade reaction from doing so. How I know its down to this light as I've put my Runtz under it. And as soon as I did. It developed fade. My Frosted G even started getting light purple on its sides. The temp in tent has been pushed to 31-33c (that's not leaf temp as I've fans blowing on my plants, and that lowers surface temps by a few degrees.) They've been on 17hrs of high powered light. At 25-30cm id no choice. My temps are mad high this time of year. Harvested Both plants are been pult they're getting their last few hrs. You'll then see the last few pics in a few hrs. I'll get bud shots later, smoke reviews and then to be fair. I'll then mark it by the GD rating system. As I do with all my strains. (So I've 2-3 wk delay in my diaries as they're Harvested, mostly) both plants I'll try push them as far as I can through the drying process whole. But, as I'm dealing with high temps. Lower RH and a fastercl dry is pref to a longer dry in hot conditions might not make sense, but 30+ hot weather harvests, I've got this down. Mind you only this round all my other hot harvests some took a few weeks to rid the hay smell. This avoids it and locks in potency. Most of the drying is done by leaving the plant in the substrate just before the plant goes for itself for fluids. 4-5 day dry as opposed to 5-6 day dry with weed that loses half its stenght. (dry harvesting look it up) Thanks to James from RQS, although I know everyone and their sister got the offer for these seeds I am defo going to be trying more from RQS, if it's buying. I'll get round to it, and depending on the quality of smoke it might be soon. If its a real nice auto, I'd love to try a fem of theirs for my winter crop in October. But, that'll depend. I've lots I want to buy & try.. and when favs are found. I'll invest. I would like to thank everybody for the activity this diary has gotten. Its possibly one of my most active diaries I've done without a harvest. And that's in no short means down to all the views and likes from you guys. And for sure I will fully complete it, with results on the smoke Quality from both phenos, if it varies, but, results thus far, structure wise they're shockingly similar. Scary so. Topping has very little affect to the structure. She grew a main cola. But both phenos, turned puples I will say the topped one was a more troublesome plant. Maybe that had a role onin its morphology. And maybe it'll affect the bud also. The topped was more demanding nutrient wise, and drank more. Maybe to support a more even bud load. (I've yet to do a through inspection, but on the VS front, it's kinda in the air about quality, structure wise, it had very little difference. Look for yourself at the heights are 3-4cm dif) lots still to come. And I'll update it soon with more results. Again, thanks so much for the support, likes, comments and how active it is, an unfinished diary moving to my home page. 1st for me. So thank you. Also to my light sponsors who played a part in this grow. Although both phenos owe their bud quality to 2 x 100 watts SF-1000 (SE5000 was used for ripening lovely fade) and I used a P1000, they shared even light distribution in the end for the most part. So, thanks to Bella for the upgrade. I'm sure when I run an RQS strain again, this time I'll know only have the fade to show, but the bud size too. Thanks again my Friends. Updates pending as of 6th June. Edit June 7th Both plants are hung whole and drying 24hrs. I don't like how fast they're moving. The buds are already soft. Should still be hard at this stage only 30hrs in. They'll harden up in the cure no doubt. Let's just hope they don't shrink too much. Will give daily updates
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Week 13. Harvest
a year ago
Happy Harvest Day!
MilkyWay F1 - Royal Queen Seeds
Spent 80 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
9/10
Rated
350 g
Bud wet weight per plant
87.5 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
1
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Got 2 good plants. 1 had 20% more weight (untopped) and the topped had a more pungent flavour profile but not by much. Got a really nice bud quality & quantity from both F1s and they actually were very similar and grew them under as close to each others environment and what they got i mirrored and except for topping and not i defoliation was done the same way. 14 plants were done under my 1m2 tent. Thats 35watts a plant a full power but as I only went to 85 max id day 25-30watts each. Was lovely pungent sweet citrus taste to both plants, hints of fuel and cheese. Untopped was a bit more stinky. But overall they were very similar taste wise. Sweet citrus with a pungent cheesey scent is what I got with strong diesel taste. Lovely buds and delighted with both harvests
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Week 13. Harvest
a year ago
Happy Harvest Day!
MilkyWay F1 - Royal Queen Seeds
Spent 80 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
9/10
Rated
350 g
Bud wet weight per plant
2
Plants
1
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Got 2 good plants. 1 had 20% more weight (untopped) and the topped had a more pungent flavour profile but not by much. Got a really nice bud quality & quantity from both F1s and they actually were very similar and grew them under as close to each others environment and what they got i mirrored and except for topping and not i defoliation was done the same way. 14 plants were done under my 1m2 tent. Thats 35watts a plant a full power but as I only went to 85 max id day 25-30watts each.
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