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Addis1501
Addis1501started grow question 9 months ago
Looking for opinions on the most uniform ppfd 2x4 led grow light, that is actually capable of up to 1000ppfd at the edge of the 2x4 footprint?
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 9 months ago
2x4 = 9 ... 8/10.764 = .74 m^2 1000 * .74 = 740 umol/s That's what you want out of your light, assuming it's accurately rated, which is not always teh case, but the bigger companies are getting better at not being manipulative dicks... the no-name brands still lie through their teeth. some incorporate distance in the ppfd they give, but that's retarded. it is related, but that'snot the equation for PPFD / DLI... it's a way to manipulate the resulting value to look better than it is for reasons that don't necessarily correlate at all times... easy to corrupt the value. 750-800 is safe... you always lose a little to the walls and some misses the plants. so calculating from what the ligh produces is a slightly bloated value, but not by much... and if you do it that way each time, it'll be familiar nonetheless. you still need trial and error to find what any plant can handle, and most will not handle 1000 ppfd over 12 hours let alone 18 without tightly controlled temp/rh and CO2. otherwise, even if the plant doesn't show damage/symptoms, it's probably not using that extra light... just throwing money out the window. if the co2 isn't there in proportion, it's not growing faster with excess light. Carbon makes up the backbone of nearly every molecule and replicated organelles/dna etc necessary for cellular growth. law of conservation of mass appplies.. carbon will not manifest itself out of nothing. divide umol/s by area of coverage == PPFD this assumes some common sense about light distribution and geometry of distance from canopy and good coverage from middle to corners etc etc... raise it too high and you get a whole lot more wasted photons and a reduced PPFD even with 90% reflective walls. sometimes it's what you have to do, but context will dictate that too, with a little common sense applied.
HerbalEdu
HerbalEduanswered grow question 9 months ago
for a 2x4 i would probably go with a viparspectra p2500 you can also look at p2000 and XS2000 or spiderfarmer SF-2000
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 9 months ago
and hell yeah to the photo-inhibition link... wish i had that for a recent cordial argument in DMs about the topic of too much light... and below.. if carbon and vpd don't match, won't make use of light beyond 35-40DLI.... PPFD without hours of use is not useful information. DLI table makes that a simple reference value. 12 hours of 1000 is 55dli, if i recall, or thereabouts.. 54? definitely need co2 for that and proper VPD / feeding regimen or it's wasted electricity for an ego boost.
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 9 months ago
Getting uniform PPFD to the edge of the tent is all about the size of the light relative to the tents foot print, If you put in a small high wattage strip light like a marz sp3000 its hot spot will be directly below it and then fade off on the ppfd map. I like bar lights for this. evenly spaced and with some of them you can customize how many there are. Sun blaster sells the lights as individual strips and they are not the most efficient lights on the market, but you can create your own light setup and daisy chain them together. they also come in 12" 18" 24" 36" 48" or in feet 1' 1.5' 2' 3' 4' I got a buch of the 4 foot long boys and they did well in my tent. Other option is a big ass Qboard style light like viparspectra xs4000 / pro4000 Right now I am using 2x medic grow mini sun 2's at 240W each and they are banging. together they light up my tent very well. Good Luck!
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSanswered grow question 9 months ago
My opinion is to be really careful with LED’s , 1000ppfd is too intense for Cannabis. I’m using Mars Hydro FC 6500 which has 1000ppfd’s at 100% on the edge of the map. My first crop growing with LED’s was catastrophic, I was using them at a 100%, triggering multiple random deficiencies due to Photoinhibition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoinhibition
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