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George W Kush
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NegotiatedBubble NegotiatedBubble
a year ago
    Grow Goals Week 6 of Flower ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ 🌦️ VPD of 1.2-1.5 kPa for Late Flower 🌙 Diurnal Temp Difference of 10°F / 5°C 🌦️ Minimum Air Movement 0.8 m/S ⬇️️ Decrease RH to 55% 🔆 Maximum Light Infiltration 🔆 Maintain DLI at 40 (Daily Light Integral) for Early Flower 🚫 No Mycorrhizae 🚫 No Microbes 🚫 No Sugars 🚜 Remove "Grow Backs" 🚜 Light Defoliation 🔎 Pest Inspection 🔎 Nutrient Deficiency Inspection 🔎 Plant Happiness Inspection ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾       🌦️  Leaf Temperature Difference Adjustment    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ There are three things needed to calculate VPD: room temperature, relative humidity, and leaf temperature. At the beginning of this grow, the difference between room and leaf was about 1.7°C / 3°F. I measure leaf temperature using a cheap infrared thermometer pointed at the underside of a canopy leaf. These are the same thermometers that were pointed at your forehead during the pandemic.   Currently the leaf underside is measuring a difference of -0.6°C / -1°F. This has changed my VPD charts quite a bit, but VPD is still within an acceptable range.         🚜  Maintenance Flush    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ Reacting to last week’s nutrient deficiency symptoms, I performed a maintenance flush to leach any excess Magnesium from the soil. The flushing water was pH’d. After the flush, I replenish all nutrients by proceeding with a regular feeding at the end. I do not want to starve the plants.    A few weeks ago I increased my growth environment to 6.4 pH and will continue this trend. My target is 6.2, but the soil has been a bit acidic lately as the runoff has measured a consistent 5.9 pH. I followed up with an additional 1 ml of flowering nutrients per gallon to the feed. More Potassium is needed when increasing Phosphorus and flowering nutrients / bloom boosters usually have the correct ratio. The same was done for CalMag with +1 ml.       🌦️  Lung Room Phase III    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I thought temperature would be the problem, but the humidity in my area spikes to 80% at night. Yes, I use a dehumidifier. The problem is that when the Lung Room exhaust cycles, it pulls cool yet humid air into the room. This causes my dehumidifier to run constantly which will eventually destroy the appliance. I managed to bring the RH down to about 55%, but decreasing the humidity any further is going to be impossible going forward using just an exhaust fan.   An A/C has been installed in the room to both cool the air and also slightly dehumidify as a side effect of the cooling action. The dehumidifier will stay in place since the A/C is purposefully oversized for the bedroom and therefore will not be able to dehumidify the room effectively. I will explain why I oversize later in my dry/cure diary, but I also do it because the lights put out more heat than what is considered normal by manufacturers. The room being sealed opens the pathway for CO2 supplementation. Next grow will be my first time implementing CO2 injection. I am looking forward to that! As a side note, the Purple Punch requires a cold environment to achieve its famous purple hues. I am not sure if there is still time to purple up, but it is personal smoke so bag appeal is less important.         🚜  No P-K Tuning This Grow    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ As mentioned in week 11, I will not be tuning P-K this time around and plan on growing a homogenous crop next time.   
The below study is a great read and is a wake up call about striking a balance between pushing the plants to their genetic limits while somehow not overfeeding them in the process. Phosphorus is a finite mineral on this planet and overfeeding of P is a problem not limited to just cannabis. 

    Westmorelan, Bugbee, “Sustainable Cannabis Nutrition: Elevated root-zone phosphorus significantly increases leachate P and does not improve yield or quality”   https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2022.1015652/full Overfeeding also means I have to flush and then really hope that I am not about to smoke a bowl of calcified lung rot. Overfeeding can increase the cellulose weight of the harvested flower without increasing any cannabinoid content. When growing my personal smoke, I choose quality over quantity. I am here to grow terpenes and trichomes, not cellulose.         🚜  pH Calibration    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I discovered that I had a faulty batch of General Hydroponics pH 7.0 reference solution. I had noticed that it was blue instead of the green dye that is typically present. I purchased a 3 pack of 7.0, 4.0, and 10.0 pH reference solution bottles made by Oakton instruments. After comparing, the bad GH 7.0 solution measured at 7.24 pH. Not much of a reference.    You should be calibrating your pH meter on a regular basis using a pH reference solution. At the very minimum, use a 7.0 pH and also a 4.0 pH reference solution.   After doing my normal calibration using 7.0 and 4.0, I tested the 10.0 solution and it measured at 8.83 pH. I now calibrate using all three reference solutions. As growers, we live on the acidic end of things, so I am not sure how this affects my past readings.       🔎  Pest Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I am seeing various kinds of spots on the leaves. Now that last week’s emergency is over, I will now concentrate on these spots. The sticky traps are clean, but statistically they do not detect all species of insects. I have a handheld microscope to look further into things.       🔎  Nutrient Deficiency Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ Earlier in the week, I pulled a few leaves that had symptoms and as of now, most of the nutrient issues have been resolved.         🔎  Plant Happiness Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ All plants are extremely happy. The buds have matured and are ripening.      ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________      Fabric pots to prevent root binding.   I am taking the Syn-ganics approach. Using soil with microbes + mycorrhizae added to the nutes. Mycorrhizae will be phased out during flowering as the high phosphorus environment halts fungal germination (Teaming with Fungi: The Organic Grower's Guide to Mycorrhizae by Jeff Lowenfels)   Enzymatic (Sensizym) will assist in breaking down dead root material in the soil. Any brand enzymatic that can break down cellulose will do just fine.   Agsil16H Potassium Silicate is pre-mixed at 148g per 1 gallon of water. Silica will aid plant strength/structure and also make the plants taste terrible to pests. As a side note, plants with too much nitrogen input taste sweet and delicious to pests!   Bacillus Thuringiensis subspecies Israelensis (Bti) (aka Mosquito Dunks) solution is added to the nutes to kill any larvae based pests such as gnats. Mixing Mosquito Bits into the soil is also a great idea.   Seaweed Bottled Mix Ingredients (NOT an endorsement. I purchased this with my own money) ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ - Ecklonia Maxima Kelp - Fish Hydrolysate - Blackstrap Molasses - Humic Acid / Fulvic Acid - Select Amino Acids (L-Alanine, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic, L-Cystine, L-Glutamic Acid, L-Glycine,   L-Histidine, L-Isoleucine, L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Methionine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Proline,   L-Threonine, L-Serine, L-Tryptophan, L-Tyrosine, L-Valine) - Calcium Phosphate - Arcanite - Sugars - Yucca Extract - Tryptic Soy Agar - Plant Hormones, Plant Growth Stimulators and Vitamins (Auxins, Cytokinins, Gibberellins,   Abscisic Acid (ABA), Adenine, Indole Acetic Acid (IAA), Adenosine, Zeatin, A (Carotene),   B1, B12, C, D, E, K, Biotin, Niacin, Choline, Pantothene, Folic Acid, Folinic Acid) ________________________________________________________________________________    I Build My Own Custom Grow LEDs https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165481-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   Custom Built Modified Grow Tent Frame https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165474-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   Custom Built Watering Table https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165482-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   VPD Chart and Calculator spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dta8AptwIIgo728nAu4l9acrWYWPdrljjV4uzXwGJ0Q/edit?usp=sharing   My Custom Nutrient Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1grolLVrJLQVSdK7sdnR7dS86axWIzDgW1iWWZIFHhiA/edit?usp=sharing        
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NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 1
Thanks Cyrus. Thanks Resinus. This is probably my 9th of 10th harvest, experience-wise. With so much BroScience™️ still floating around, I always like to question why when I do something in my grow space. I spent about 4 month straight listening to grow podcasts while doing food deliveries and also research a lot in my spare time. I have hammered out a rough process for myself and figured time to post what I have so far. Teaming with Microbes is a great fucking book. Bruce Bugbee is THE authority on how photons/wavelength/etc interact with Cannabis.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 2
Hey mate, loving the detail in text. I enjoy reading as I find it more informative than photos. The photos for me are the result or the metric or measure, the text is the subject at hand. :) I also like your invention with your own made kit, something I find inspiring. Can you tell us a little about your past growing experience?
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Ezzjaybruh, It's wonderful to hear you inspired to write more... I share your frustrations mentioned and will not elaborate for obvious reasons.
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@UnorthadoxDude, after reading this.. makes me want to add more to my diaries than I have been lately. I just have got a bad taste in my mouth with this site of late, for many reasons I won’t go into here.. but I don’t realize ppl might be looking at my diaries for specifics to learn..
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
I was searching other people's public google drives files for VPD charts. I found a copy of the pulse grow VPD chart that someone apparently converted to a Google Sheets Spreadsheet. Very nice. VPD Chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M9jGhBA0lc2S8NEsq3q_6Mkpd3yJwedSZ3kfxuK0ZVI/edit?usp=sharing
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 5
Very detailed diary. Good read. Good much with the rest of her!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
Thanks for that @gottagrowsometime. I trashed most of my grow equipment before moving to California and am reinventing my environmental control due to the change in local climate.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 5
Nice LST work! I'm really enjoying reading about the details of your grow setup, very informative and helpful! 👍 Thank you my friend!
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowesweek 2
Good luck with your gro! 😎
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdavirusweek 1
Sounds like you have done some homework and the newbie title is just because you just started on Growdiaries. Well welcome to the neighborhood enjoy Great looking youngsters 👍 happy growing 😎🌴
amazongrow
amazongrowweek 14
wow, this an artist's diary. at first I kinda went this path but now I'm so lazy and mostly update the pics and give the viewers an overview of the week... this is much better, thank you and keep it that way! btw, nice girls... they look lovely and I would not worry about any deficiency at this stage, most of the pics I have seen seems to be senescense related. However, the space looks crowdy, you got to watch out for mold and air circulation very closely, but the new dehumidifier will help I guess. I would recommend less plants and mainlines... they get very big and horizontal spread also thriving on the stress! good luck from Brazil! =)
amazongrow
amazongrow
@NegotiatedBubble, thanks for the tip. I have started adding silicate this grow and had no issue with mold or mildew I would say, with the addOn of an AC during 35+ days of flowering. Got myself a 240W Quantum Bar now and this next grow I hope to get some much more potent buds with my new AC during flowering... Hope your new setup fixes any issues. You deserve it, very well orgnized fellow. Congrats! Tchau, do Brazil!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@amazongrow, I live next to a cold water bay and see 68°F / 20°C with 60-70% RB days, and then 50°F / 10°C with 80-90% RH at nights. Typical A/C's are not very good at humidity control when it comes to indoor growing. This applies to drying room conditions as well. In that case, I need very cold + 60% RH, but the A/C running that much will dry the air out about 4 days into my drying session. Previously, I ran small humidifiers in my drying room after that 4 day mark. I will be tweaking this for my new climate. I reduced the LGR Dehu to 40% and managed to get the tent down to 55%. I also defoliated much of the plant to insure against mildew issues. I am going to overlay some cheap vinyl flooring on top of the existing wood floors. This should cut down the amount outside humidity entering the room. If you are not supplementing with Silica, then start now. Silica prevents a lot of mildew diseases such as Botrytis.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@NegotiatedBubble, you have a lung room? a room for air conditiong RH and stuff before sending to the tent? that should be awesome! what are your conditions on the outside world? As I grow in the Amazon, the humidity here is almost 95% outside most of the year (lots of rivers, trees, rain, etc).. once I thought about getting a lung room, but still I had to deal with the temperatures (28C almost all year around).... this time around I have used an AC from day 35+ of flower and the results were just fucking amazing! Having said that, fighting climate is a bitch and its fucking hard! =/ But as you are all organized, I believe its a battle you will win! Congrats, bro!
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletweek 16
Loving the info, veritable bank of knowledge you are Negotiated bubble. Making your own LeDs , now that's interesting! Right up my alley. Not now though, my ass is broke from previous ideas :)
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@Ultraviolet, a lot of these new "Amazon" lights still do not have the Samsung LM301H diodes. The newer "LM301H EVO" diodes are not for beginners due to missing red spectrum (have to supplement red diodes separately). I only expect to see EVO in commercial setups. All the more reason to build my own!
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 6
Thats some of the best LST I have ever seen, nice work brother!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@Tweezer, thanks for that. My even flowering canopy alway looks like screenless-scrog toward the end. Looking forward to posting some flowering pics soon.
Wastent91
Wastent91week 18
Yuor work are amazing for me! Yuo are a specialist in all of his part of this miracolous indoor cannabis grow! Thank yuo to exist and follow up toghether yuor ability! Thank full for all! 🙏👊😽😼😺🧑‍🌾😻💖💖
yourbestbud
yourbestbudweek 17
I like the tip on the cooking spray definitely gonna do that when my first harvest is ready. Your buds are looking amazing!
Qutro
Qutroweek 18
Those nugs look yummy.👌
HydroHerb420
HydroHerb420week 18
Wow. This is another level. So much detail. Congratulations 💚💚
Zengrower
Zengrowerweek 18
Those buds sure have bag appeal, very nice 👊
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 13
Nice diary
Terp1
Terp1week 12
Ich wünsche dir eine hervorragende Ernte. Ich finde deine Arbeit beeindruckend. 💪
Terp1
Terp1week 10
Wahnsinn.... einfach nur wahnsinn 😍
resimax
resimaxweek 1
Good luck and happy growing! 😎
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 16
Excellent diary , very informative. Harvest looking insane, those buds 😋
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@NegotiatedBubble, It make wonder, i start injecting co2 from last grow and i going to continue with it..
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@WhiteEdge, not a bad yield considering there is not any CO2 injection. Next flower will have CO2.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 17
Looks like congratulations are in order bro! 👏 Awesome work and the buds look rock solid! 👏 Thank you for all the harvesting tips as well, I'll definitely try out the PAM spray, I was using rubbing alcohol... Good points as well on the wet trimming 🙏 I'll be using what I learned from you on my 2 current grows. Best of luck on the drying and curing my friend! 👈
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@NegotiatedBubble, Every grow, we be better 👊 Your harvest is beautiful one. 👏 Thank you for sharing the book, it looks like a good read. I've been wanting to check out Ed's Cannabis Growers Handbook as well. Happy drying and curing 👈
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@MedicineMaker, thanks! I learned a ton this time around and was glad to share it. I ran across the below harvesting book and was able to check out the digital version though my local library. The book has a lot of useless "filler", but still a great read toward the end.     Marijuana Harvest: How to Maximize Quality and Yield in Your Cannabis Garden, by Ed Rosenthal, David Downs