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Louder Louder
8 months ago
Welcome to another ridiculously detailed grow by Louder! If you've followed any of my diaries in the last 2 years, you'll see some familiar faces. King's Tart was so good I had to grow it again, hopefully mistake free. 10th Planet I've ran twice and Banana Daddy once. 10P has been very consistent in quality no matter what I've done. BD was slow growing and low yielding last time so I'm really hoping to get a big improvement here. We've got our cheat sheets and looking to smash previous yields. As always, there will be an absolutely shocking amount of notes with lots of updates! So let's get into it!! LEGEND: 🌑️- High Temp ❄️ - Low Temp 🌧️ - High Humidity ☁️ - Low Humidity πŸ“ˆ - High VPD πŸ“‰ - Low VPD πŸ“Š - Average VPD πŸ’§ - Water Amount ________________________________ GERMINATION WEEK (SEPT 9-15) TARGETS: β€’ 22-25c βœ… β€’ 70-80%βœ… β€’ 0.42-0.72 VPDβœ… β€’ 1.0 EC / 6.0-6.2 pH ❌ (0.9) _________ Sept 9 - 7.5ml CaMg/gal (buffering solution) β€’ Rehydrated 1/2 brick with 2L dechlorinated water (no pH) β€’ Rinsed coco with water at 6.0 pH β€’ Buffered with 1.0 EC CaMg @ 6.0 pH for 24 hrs β€’ Soaked seeds for 24 hrs (plain tap water) _________ Sept 10 β€’ All seeds sank β€’ Drained coco and squeezed out excess water β€’ Mixed 55/45 coco/perlite β€’ Myco mixed in β€’ Planted all seeds into 4" pots β€’ Dome on, heat mat on β€’ Light timer set to 16/8 _________ Sept 11 β€’ Misted tops of pots β€’ Albino looking sprout (10P6) β€’ BD5 sprouted, open cotys β€’ Tap roots on all seeds, cracked shells (44 hours) 🌑️- 27.0c ⬇️ ❄️ - 23.3c βœ… 🌧️ - 80% βœ… ☁️ - 60% βœ… πŸ“ˆ - 0.76 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.72 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.74 βœ… _________ Sept 12 β€’ Both KT's cracked shell, one off β€’ Both 10Ps opened cotys β€’ Misted tops of pots β€’ Put a layer of pure coco on top to keep in moisture β€’ Misted the dome β€’ Dehumidifier in the cellar (60%) β€’ Set heat mat probe to 25c 🌑️- 25.3c βœ… ❄️ - 23.5c βœ… 🌧️ - 80% βœ… ☁️ - 60% βœ… πŸ“ˆ - 0.76 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.72 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.74 βœ… _________ Sept 13 β€’ BD4 sprouted and open cotys (All open) Mix: 1ml CaMg, 1ml PB Tea : 1L water = 0.9 EC/5.9 in pH πŸ’§- 36ml each 🌑️- 25.2c βœ… ❄️ - 22.8cβœ… 🌧️ - 87%⬇️ ☁️ - 67%⬆️ πŸ“ˆ - 0.72 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.42 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.62 βœ… _________ Sept 14 🌑️- 25.5c βœ… ❄️ - 23.2c βœ… 🌧️ - 85% ⬇️ ☁️ - 44% ❌ πŸ“ˆ - 1.55 βŒβ¬‡οΈ πŸ“‰ - 0.33 βŒβ¬†οΈ πŸ“Š - 1.08 βŒβ¬‡οΈ β€’ Dome was open near the fan dropping humidity β€’ Heat mat probe is set perfectly for 25.5c MAX _________ Sept 15 Mix: 1ml CaMg, 1ml Compost tea : 1L water = 0.9 EC/5.8 pH πŸ’§= 36ml each 🌑️- 25.1c βœ… ❄️ - 22.6c βœ… 🌧️ - 75% βœ… ☁️ - 59% πŸ†— πŸ“ˆ - 0.76 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.6 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.71 βœ… β€’ Single set of serrated leaves on all ***GERMINATION WEEK ENDS*** ______________________________ SEEDLING WEEK 1 (SEPT 16-22) Because GD doesn't have a block of time dedicated to seedlings, I'm extending the "germination" week. Without sets of true leaves, the plants aren't IN the vegetation stage yet. Once there's one set of true leaves, I'll start the fertigation schedule. When there's 5-7 sets of true leaves, the seedling period ends and the plant enters vegetation WEEK 1. TARGETS: β€’ 22-25C βœ… β€’ 65-75% ❌ (High fluctuations 80+) β€’ 0.42-0.72 VPD πŸ†— β€’ 1.0 EC / 6.0 pH ❌ (0.9) β€’ Let pots dry out at least 75% before the first full watering βœ… __________ Sept 16 🌑️- 25.3c βœ… ❄️ - 22.6c βœ… 🌧️ - 79% ⬇️ ☁️ - 59% πŸ†— πŸ“ˆ - 0.76 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.6 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.71 βœ… The single serrated leaves are getting bigger every day. Vibrant green colour, straight and sturdy stems on all. Humidity is a bit on the high side at night but it's better than being too dry at this stage. The seedlings are mostly taking water in through the leaves so we don't want to drown the fragile tap root with water. OXYGEN is more important to get roots growing quickly. __________ Sept 17 🌑️- 25.5c βœ… ❄️ - 21.8c ⬆️ 🌧️ - 72% ⬇️ ☁️ - 61% βœ… πŸ“ˆ - 0.76 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.55 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.7 βœ… __________ Sept 18 🌑️- 25.5c βœ… ❄️ - 21.1c ⬆️ 🌧️ - 74% ⬇️ ☁️ - 59% πŸ†— πŸ“ˆ - 0.62 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.58 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.6 βœ… _________________ Sept 19 Mix: 1ml CaMg, 1ml A, 1ml B, 1ml PB Tea : 2L water = 0.9 EC πŸ’§: 250ml BD4 IN: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH (20c) OUT: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH (22c) BD5 IN: 0.9 EC/ 5.9 pH (20c) OUT: 0.8 EC/5.9 pH (22c) KT4 IN: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH (20c) OUT: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH (22c) KT5 IN: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH (20c) OUT: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH (22c) 10P6 IN: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH (20c) OUT: 0.8 EC/5.7 pH (22c) 10P7 IN: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH (20c) OUT: 0.8 EC/5.7 pH (22c) 🌑️- 26.1c πŸ†— ❄️ - 22.4c βœ… 🌧️ - 82% ⬇️ ☁️ - 59% πŸ†— πŸ“ˆ - 0.8 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.38 ⬆️ πŸ“Š - 0.65 βœ… 2nd set of leaves are showing! The pots were light so I watered them all. Wanted some runoff just to see where the substrate is at. They haven't been fully saturated since the coco was buffered. I'd like to see the pH a bit higher but that's super easy to correct this early. I usually keep the fertilizing to a bare minimum at this stage but this time we're trying the @FrontRowAG_BrianG method of EC stacking right from the jump. If I have the logic correct, this involves starting out at a relatively high (but safe) EC and allowing the plant to get accustomed to high doses of nutrients earlier on in veg. The goal is to reach 1.8 EC by week 4. Provided the VPD is in check, this allows you to push the EC while it's in bloom to produce bigger yields. Go look at his diaries if you're skeptical. Going forward, I won't be getting much in terms of runoff (if any) and using scheduled flushes at the end of VEG, end of week 2 FLR and end of week 5 FLR. We're flushing for 2 weeks at the end (week 8/9). ___________ Sept 20 🌑️- 25.9c βœ… ❄️ - 22.5c βœ… 🌧️ - 87% ⬇️ ☁️ - 58%⬆️ πŸ“ˆ - 1.15 βŒβ¬‡οΈ πŸ“‰ - 0.39 βŒβ¬†οΈ πŸ“Š - 0.74 ⬇️ β€’ Humidity too high during lights off β€’ Humidity too low during lights on It's been rough getting the VPD right lately. If I take the dome off, humidity plummets to 50%. If I leave it on, it skyrockets to near 90%. That being said, the seedlings look great. The pots are maybe halfway dry from the first fertilizing event so I'll give it another day or so before watering again. Only issue is 10P6 has a bit of a yellow leaf tip. ____________ Sept 21 🌑️- 26.1 βœ… ❄️ - 23.2 βœ… 🌧️ - 71% βœ… ☁️ - 58% πŸ†— πŸ“ˆ - 0.99 βŒβ¬‡οΈ πŸ“‰ - 0.72 ⬇️ πŸ“Š - 0.88 βŒβ¬‡οΈ β€’ Dome off all day β€’ Fan on aiming up (light rocking for seedlings) β€’ Sprayed a mold killer on the seedlings (thought I saw WPM) β€’ Looks like it was just diatomaceous earth I sprayed β€’ Got a slumpy seedling (10P6), propped up _________ Sept 22 🌑️- 25.8c βœ… ❄️ - 22.8cβœ… 🌧️ - 71% βœ… ☁️ - 62% βœ… πŸ“ˆ - 0.81 ⬇️ πŸ“‰ - 0.7 ⬇️ πŸ“Š - 0.79 ⬇️ _______________________________ SEEDLING WEEK 2 (Sept 23-29) TARGETS: β€’ 22-25C β€’ 65-75% β€’ 0.42-0.72 VPD β€’ 1.0 EC / 6.0 pH βœ… __________ Sept 23 🌑️- 26.1c βœ… ❄️ - 23.2c βœ… 🌧️ - 78% βœ… ☁️ - 54% ⬆️ πŸ“ˆ - 0.85 ⬇️ πŸ“‰ - 0.55 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.76 πŸ†— β€’ Changed light schedule to 18/6 β€’ 3rd set of leaves showing _________________ Sept 24 (250ml) Mix: 1ml CaMg, 1ml A, 1ml B, 1ml PB Tea : 2L water = 1.0 EC BD4 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (22c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (23c) BD5 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (22c) OUT: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (23c) KT4 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (22c) OUT: 1.0 EC/5.9 pH (22c) KT5 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (22c) OUT: 1.0 EC/5.9 pH (22c) 10P6 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (22c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (23c) 10P7 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (22c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (22c) 🌑️- 26.4c πŸ†— ❄️ - 21.5c ⬆️ 🌧️ - 84% βŒβ¬‡οΈ ☁️ - 59% πŸ†— πŸ“ˆ - 0.85 ⬇️ πŸ“‰ - 0.4 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.62 πŸ†— Last watering was 5 days ago and the pots were super light. We'll see how long they take to dry out this time. ____________ Sept 25 🌑️- 26.8c πŸ†— ❄️ - 23.3c βœ… 🌧️ - 81% πŸ†— ☁️ - 49% βŒβ¬†οΈ πŸ“ˆ - 0.91 ⬇️ πŸ“‰ - 0.43 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.7 kPa πŸ†—β¬‡οΈ ____________ Sept 26 🌑️- 26.5c πŸ†— ❄️ - 23.8c βœ… 🌧️ - 81% πŸ†— ☁️ - 58% πŸ†— (for lights off, higher for lights on) πŸ“ˆ - 0.82 ⬇️ πŸ“‰ - 0.46 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.68 kPa πŸ†— __________________ Sept 27 (300ml) BD4 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (20c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (22c) BD5 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (20c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (22c) KT4 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (20c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (23c) KT5 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (20c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (24c) 10P6 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (20c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (23c) 10P7 IN: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (20c) OUT: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (24c) 🌑️- 27.1c πŸ†— (with higher humidity) ❄️ - 24.4c βœ… 🌧️ - 74% βœ… ☁️ - 49%βŒβ¬†οΈ πŸ“ˆ - 0.91 ⬇️ πŸ“‰ - 0.43 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.7 kPa πŸ†—β¬‡οΈ This is day 12 of the seedling period. Still having an issue with low humidity...I'd like to keep a fan running to get the stems strengthened up but that erases the humidity I need. The second watering came with the pots about 50% dry. All are producing similar runoff values for now. 4 of 6 seedlings are looking pretty good with BD5 and KT4 looking the best. 10ths aren't doing as well. One needs to propped up or it will slump over sideways. They both have some yellowing crispy leaf edges as well. so maybe they can't handle what the others can. I'm a bit paranoid about spider mites and wpm this time of year, and at this early stage when they're so vulnerable. Just ordered an LED magnifier to confirm there isn't anything fucked going on. ___________ Sept 28 10ths are looking super weird. Slow and mutated growth, weak stems...nothing like I've seen out of the (now empty) 10 pack. The others have been given the exact same treatment and look totally fine. Don't think I'll waste much more time on them. There's something very special coming anyway πŸ˜‰ ____________ Sept 29 🌑️- 26.4c βœ… ❄️ - 23.3c βœ… 🌧️ - 74% βœ… ☁️ - 52% ⬆️ πŸ“ˆ - 0.76 βœ… πŸ“‰ - 0.67 βœ… πŸ“Š - 0.7 βœ… There's at least 3 sets of true leaves now so I'm going to end the seedling stage and begin the vegetation stage. Getting some better VPD numbers last few days and the growth is showing. I did see a fungus gnat fly into the bottom of a pot so I fogged the room out with DE powder. So fucking tired of seeing these assholes. I'm positive they're from houseplants upstairs and from outside. I'd like to start buffering coco for transplanting but I'm worried the wet substrate will attract more of these dickheads.
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BerrySweetHigh
BerrySweetHighweek 5
The plants are looking very nice! πŸ˜‹
BerrySweetHigh
BerrySweetHigh
@Louder, Berry Sweet ❀️
Louder
Louder
@BerrySweetHigh, Berry nice of you to say πŸ˜†
Gabroxxx
Gabroxxxweek 1
buona fortuna con la tua coltivazione amico !!
Louder
Louder
@Gabroxxx, 🀞
CHILLING_RACOONS
CHILLING_RACOONSweek 4
You planted awesome genetics for real!! GHSC and Ethos are the bests seedbanks If you want to support, take a look to our new diaries and if you like them remember to like, comment and follow us πŸ‘ It will be appreciated! ❀️ Chilling_Racoons πŸ‘¨β€πŸŒΎπŸ‘©β€πŸŒΎ
BudBoutique
BudBoutiqueweek 3
Happy Vegging Buddy πŸ§‘β€πŸŒΎ
Louder
Louder
@BudBoutique, cheers bud, smooth sailing so far!
Qutro
Qutroweek 0
Nice selection of great strains. Happy growing and don't forget to enjoy the process.;)
Louder
Louder
@Qutro, thanks growmie!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 0
3 of the best pics out there. You’re gonna have something special when you’re done!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Looking at a New Year's harvest for them! Stoked!!
Artist
Artistweek 13
thanks for the content, the information is exhaustive πŸ‘πŸ‘Š happy growing πŸ‘½
Louder
Louder
It's a lot, I know 🀣
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 11
Haven't tried anything from Ethos yet but, ghs strains are lovely. I got a lovely KT pheno.. Hope all your strains turn out well.
Louder
Louder
@gottagrowsometime, Thank you man. I had a great pheno out of 3 KTs last round...sadly didn't take any cuts. I don't think I got it this time because the keeper grew taller than these. Been running Ethos mostly for the last few grows and they've been impressive. Highly recommend
Breadandbuds
Breadandbudsweek 6
Good Luck bro <3
Louder
Louder
@Breadandbuds, thank you brotha 🍻
Herbie101
Herbie101week 5
That 🍌-Daddy is looking great buddy! Good luck! πŸ˜„πŸŒ±πŸŒžπŸ€
Louder
Louder
@Herbie101, thanks my man!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420week 4
Looking great mate. βœŒοΈπŸ‘ŠπŸ»
Louder
Louder
@Green_Man_420, So far so good!
Dabking
Dabkingweek 5
Good Luck with your grow. πŸ™
northernMike
northernMikeweek 12
See the game last night, kicked some Boston butt all over the iceπŸ˜€. Good goal tending and some hungry players, go # 13, GO JETS GO!!!! Going all the way this year!!!! UNSTOPPABLE!! Plants look great πŸ‘Œ, should have some good herb in a few weeks. Finally got two coats of paint in the basement, suspended ceiling goes up next, then flooring and I'll be able to set-up my tent. Had to make a trip to the pot store, first time in a long time that I had to buy some herb, it's not the same, not even close πŸ˜‘... GOTTA GROW!!!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family.
northernMike
northernMike
@Louder, Variety is the spice of life they say, so we'll mix it up a bit and see what happens, Lambs breath and Orange cake for sure, we'll see about the others when the time comes. Can't Wait!!
Louder
Louder
@northernMike, some nice selections to choose from! Love the sound of that orange cake. Gonna be a good year, I can SMELL IT!!
northernMike
northernMike
@Louder, Wheeler must be wondering WTF happened to this team😡, someone lit their JETS!! Let's hope they can keep it up.. Ordered a bunch of auto's from the Crop King, started my first grow with the King so I thought I'd try agin, plus they had a two for one sale so I loaded up. I have some Lamb's Breath,close to being my favourite and some new strains, Acapulco Gold, Hippie Crippler, Orange cake and I got a freebie package of 5 seeds, Kryptonite auto from Rocket seeds. There all sativa dominant strains except the Orange cake which is an Indica dominant strain that's supposed to grow big,sugar coated buds with a very citrus flavour and smell, so we'll see. I should be posting soon, just have to figure out which ones I grow first, TOUGH CHOICE😏, Lamb's Breath for sure!! Smok'em if you got'em!!
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 7
They look healthy and I can’t wait to see the flower
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, should be a sight to see come January. Predicting a ton of purple. I've got pics of all of them in past diaries if you literally can't wait πŸ˜†
RoidBlaze
RoidBlazeweek 12
Looks awesome! Shame about the possible Hermie
Louder
Louder
@RoidBlaze, I know it looks alarming, and that could be part of it, but the other 5/6 plants are thriving. It's just the one King's Tart and they all get the same treatment. She's the closest to the fresh air intake (which is cold) and the oscillating fan so maybe it's that. I'm going to flush anyway but I've had runoffs that error out the meter before with no hermies.
RoidBlaze
RoidBlaze
@Louder, just read the run offs then and they are insanely high... thinking lockout caused it?
Louder
Louder
@RoidBlaze, Thanks, yeah, it's a head scratcher. Trying to make sense of it through the latest runoffs
SlexiSmoker
SlexiSmokerweek 15
Looks Tastie!!!
Louder
Louder
@SlexiSmoker, thanks! Can hardly wait to get into it!
Traduhh
Traduhhweek 15
Looks yummy, bro!
Louder
Louder
@Traduhh, thanks homie!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 14
There’s my boy!!! Long time no see. Now that the holidays are over it’s back to business as usual. Shit looks good bro
Louder
Louder
Ay! Good to see you back. Looking forward to the next diary brother ✌️
Qutro
Qutroweek 11
Seeing your garden makes me want to try growing some Ethos genetics.πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ŠπŸ»
Louder
Louder
@Qutro, DUDE do it! They just dropped some new πŸ”₯ strains too
northernMike
northernMikeweek 11
Plant looks super HAPPY!!! Very NiceπŸ‘..
Louder
Louder
@northernMike, thanks! It's gone shockingly smooth so far 🀞