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Bacillus Thuringiensis subspecies Israelensis (Bti) aka Mosquito Dunks
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NegotiatedBubble NegotiatedBubble
2 years ago
    Grow Goals Week 4 of Flower ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ 🌦️ VPD of 1.2-1.5 kPa for Early Flower 🌙 Diurnal Temp Difference of 10°F / 5°C    🔆 Maximum Light Infiltration 🔆 Maintain DLI at 40 (Daily Light Integral) for Early Flower   🚫 No Mycorrhizae 🚜 Microbes 🚜 Remove Bottom Buds 🚜 Light Defoliation   🔎 Pest Inspection 🔎 Nutrient Deficiency Inspection 🔎 Plant Happiness Inspection 🔎 "Nails" Watch _____________________________________          🔆  Darkness Interrupted    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ I interrupted the darkness by accidentally leaving a work bench light on and the tent open. Total exposure was about 3 hours and I will be watching for intersex and removing any male flowers that appear.    This is a good time to pause and mention that I normally keep all other non-growing lights in my room on an identical timer schedule as my grow lights. This is an insurance policy in case I forget to turn off the non-grow lights that are normally on when I am mixing nutes. I try to avoid using the overhead light (lack of a timer) and instead use a few plug in lamps on timers.    So how did this happen? I had the bench light timer set to PM rather than AM. Ouch! I have now double checked all non-grow lights in the room.          🚜  Defoliation and More LST    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ It was time for some light infiltration. I defoliated until I could see enough light from below the canopy. Sucker branches at the bottom of the plants have also been removed. I prefer cola buds rather than lower bottom branch buds, so I removed any bottom buds that were significantly smaller than the cola buds. Buds on the lower part of the branch are typically less mature than the colas at time of harvest. I failed to plan ahead for the number of nodes per plant space and have far too many. Ideally, this task should be finished by end the of veg.   Heavy LST phase II has begun after training the nodes into a spiral formation last week. Phase I was curling the nodes around the plant to create a soft curve at the bottom of each node. This week, I reversed the spiral by placing the branch upright again and then placing a hook on the bottom of the branch. Now, I can adjust the height of each cola by pulling down on the node utilizing the curve
.   Intense LST is not normally needed at this stage of flower, but the extreme difference in stretch between these 3 strains is proving to be a challenge. This is yet another reason to grow a homogenous crop of clones. Find a strain that you love, become intimate with the light tolerance and nutrient appetite for that set of genetics, and then push those genetics to their absolute limit. This is what the commercial growers do.        🚜  “Nails” Watch    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ “Nails” is a metaphor comparing the slightly burnt tips of the fan leaves resembling a freshly painted set of finger nails. Typically, this is what one would watch for when increasing (tuning) the P and K.  I need more experience using this technique. I will not be tuning P and K this grow because I am running 3 new strains which I am not familiar with. One would also be on the lookout for calcium deficiencies / toxicities as well since tuning P-K can excite or lockout other nutrients as demonstrated in Mulder’s Chart:
     Mulder’s Chart   https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/e10f0411/dms3rep/multi/mulders.png       🌦️  Lung Room Heat    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ As mentioned in earlier dairies, I have moved to a new state in the US with vastly different ambient conditions compared to my previous grow. The weather is heating up and along with it, the Lung Room. Although this is not an immediate concern, I need to stay ahead of any heat issues. Terpenes volitize as the heat increases   I have turned the Lung Room fan around so that now it actively pulls in cooler air from the hallway. Previously, it was pushing hot air out of the room while passively pulling in cool air though another vent in the door. I have also removed the carbon filter to improve air flow. See weeks 6 and 7 to catch up on details about my Lung Room.    For the next grow, I plan on shifting my night time cycle to coincide with cooler temps outside during the night. Currently my lights are switching on during the hottest part of the day.          🔎  Pest Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ No pests to report. I will continue to monitor for pests using sticky traps.       🔎  Nutrient Deficiency Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ No symptoms to report.        🔎  Plant Happiness Inspection    ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ Plants are doing great. No signs of stress.        ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________    Fabric pots to prevent root binding.   I am taking the Syn-ganics approach. Using soil with microbes + mycorrhizae added to the nutes. Mycorrhizae will be phased out during flowering as the high phosphorus environment halts fungal germination (Teaming with Fungi: The Organic Grower's Guide to Mycorrhizae by Jeff Lowenfels)   Enzymatic (Sensizym) will assist in breaking down dead root material in the soil. Any brand enzymatic that can break down cellulose will do just fine.   Agsil16H Potassium Silicate is pre-mixed at 148g per 1 gallon of water. Silica will aid plant strength/structure and also make the plants taste terrible to pests. As a side note, plants with too much nitrogen input taste sweet and delicious to pests!   Bacillus Thuringiensis subspecies Israelensis (Bti) (aka Mosquito Dunks) solution is added to the nutes to kill any larvae based pests such as gnats. Mixing Mosquito Bits into the soil is also a great idea.   Seaweed Bottled Mix Ingredients (NOT an endorsement. I purchased this with my own money) ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ - Ecklonia Maxima Kelp - Fish Hydrolysate - Blackstrap Molasses - Humic Acid / Fulvic Acid - Select Amino Acids (L-Alanine, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic, L-Cystine, L-Glutamic Acid, L-Glycine,    L-Histidine, L-Isoleucine, L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Methionine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Proline,    L-Threonine, L-Serine, L-Tryptophan, L-Tyrosine, L-Valine) - Calcium Phosphate - Arcanite - Sugars - Yucca Extract - Tryptic Soy Agar - Plant Hormones, Plant Growth Stimulators and Vitamins (Auxins, Cytokinins, Gibberellins,    Abscisic Acid (ABA), Adenine, Indole Acetic Acid (IAA), Adenosine, Zeatin, A (Carotene),    B1, B12, C, D, E, K, Biotin, Niacin, Choline, Pantothene, Folic Acid, Folinic Acid) ________________________________________________________________________________    I Build My Own Custom Grow LEDs https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165481-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   Custom Built Modified Grow Tent Frame https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165474-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   Custom Built Watering Table https://growdiaries.com/diaries/165482-grow-journal-by-negotiatedbubble   VPD Chart and Calculator spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dta8AptwIIgo728nAu4l9acrWYWPdrljjV4uzXwGJ0Q/edit?usp=sharing   My Custom Nutrient Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1grolLVrJLQVSdK7sdnR7dS86axWIzDgW1iWWZIFHhiA/edit?usp=sharing  
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NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 1
Thanks Cyrus. Thanks Resinus. This is probably my 9th of 10th harvest, experience-wise. With so much BroScience™️ still floating around, I always like to question why when I do something in my grow space. I spent about 4 month straight listening to grow podcasts while doing food deliveries and also research a lot in my spare time. I have hammered out a rough process for myself and figured time to post what I have so far. Teaming with Microbes is a great fucking book. Bruce Bugbee is THE authority on how photons/wavelength/etc interact with Cannabis.
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 2
Hey mate, loving the detail in text. I enjoy reading as I find it more informative than photos. The photos for me are the result or the metric or measure, the text is the subject at hand. :) I also like your invention with your own made kit, something I find inspiring. Can you tell us a little about your past growing experience?
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude
@Ezzjaybruh, It's wonderful to hear you inspired to write more... I share your frustrations mentioned and will not elaborate for obvious reasons.
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@UnorthadoxDude, after reading this.. makes me want to add more to my diaries than I have been lately. I just have got a bad taste in my mouth with this site of late, for many reasons I won’t go into here.. but I don’t realize ppl might be looking at my diaries for specifics to learn..
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
I was searching other people's public google drives files for VPD charts. I found a copy of the pulse grow VPD chart that someone apparently converted to a Google Sheets Spreadsheet. Very nice. VPD Chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M9jGhBA0lc2S8NEsq3q_6Mkpd3yJwedSZ3kfxuK0ZVI/edit?usp=sharing
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 5
Very detailed diary. Good read. Good much with the rest of her!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
Thanks for that @gottagrowsometime. I trashed most of my grow equipment before moving to California and am reinventing my environmental control due to the change in local climate.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 5
Nice LST work! I'm really enjoying reading about the details of your grow setup, very informative and helpful! 👍 Thank you my friend!
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowesweek 2
Good luck with your gro! 😎
Cyrusdavirus
Cyrusdavirusweek 1
Sounds like you have done some homework and the newbie title is just because you just started on Growdiaries. Well welcome to the neighborhood enjoy Great looking youngsters 👍 happy growing 😎🌴
amazongrow
amazongrowweek 14
wow, this an artist's diary. at first I kinda went this path but now I'm so lazy and mostly update the pics and give the viewers an overview of the week... this is much better, thank you and keep it that way! btw, nice girls... they look lovely and I would not worry about any deficiency at this stage, most of the pics I have seen seems to be senescense related. However, the space looks crowdy, you got to watch out for mold and air circulation very closely, but the new dehumidifier will help I guess. I would recommend less plants and mainlines... they get very big and horizontal spread also thriving on the stress! good luck from Brazil! =)
amazongrow
amazongrow
@NegotiatedBubble, thanks for the tip. I have started adding silicate this grow and had no issue with mold or mildew I would say, with the addOn of an AC during 35+ days of flowering. Got myself a 240W Quantum Bar now and this next grow I hope to get some much more potent buds with my new AC during flowering... Hope your new setup fixes any issues. You deserve it, very well orgnized fellow. Congrats! Tchau, do Brazil!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@amazongrow, I live next to a cold water bay and see 68°F / 20°C with 60-70% RB days, and then 50°F / 10°C with 80-90% RH at nights. Typical A/C's are not very good at humidity control when it comes to indoor growing. This applies to drying room conditions as well. In that case, I need very cold + 60% RH, but the A/C running that much will dry the air out about 4 days into my drying session. Previously, I ran small humidifiers in my drying room after that 4 day mark. I will be tweaking this for my new climate. I reduced the LGR Dehu to 40% and managed to get the tent down to 55%. I also defoliated much of the plant to insure against mildew issues. I am going to overlay some cheap vinyl flooring on top of the existing wood floors. This should cut down the amount outside humidity entering the room. If you are not supplementing with Silica, then start now. Silica prevents a lot of mildew diseases such as Botrytis.
amazongrow
amazongrow
@NegotiatedBubble, you have a lung room? a room for air conditiong RH and stuff before sending to the tent? that should be awesome! what are your conditions on the outside world? As I grow in the Amazon, the humidity here is almost 95% outside most of the year (lots of rivers, trees, rain, etc).. once I thought about getting a lung room, but still I had to deal with the temperatures (28C almost all year around).... this time around I have used an AC from day 35+ of flower and the results were just fucking amazing! Having said that, fighting climate is a bitch and its fucking hard! =/ But as you are all organized, I believe its a battle you will win! Congrats, bro!
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletweek 16
Loving the info, veritable bank of knowledge you are Negotiated bubble. Making your own LeDs , now that's interesting! Right up my alley. Not now though, my ass is broke from previous ideas :)
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@Ultraviolet, a lot of these new "Amazon" lights still do not have the Samsung LM301H diodes. The newer "LM301H EVO" diodes are not for beginners due to missing red spectrum (have to supplement red diodes separately). I only expect to see EVO in commercial setups. All the more reason to build my own!
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 6
Thats some of the best LST I have ever seen, nice work brother!
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@Tweezer, thanks for that. My even flowering canopy alway looks like screenless-scrog toward the end. Looking forward to posting some flowering pics soon.
Wastent91
Wastent91week 18
Yuor work are amazing for me! Yuo are a specialist in all of his part of this miracolous indoor cannabis grow! Thank yuo to exist and follow up toghether yuor ability! Thank full for all! 🙏👊😽😼😺🧑‍🌾😻💖💖
yourbestbud
yourbestbudweek 17
I like the tip on the cooking spray definitely gonna do that when my first harvest is ready. Your buds are looking amazing!
Qutro
Qutroweek 18
Those nugs look yummy.👌
HydroHerb420
HydroHerb420week 18
Wow. This is another level. So much detail. Congratulations 💚💚
Zengrower
Zengrowerweek 18
Those buds sure have bag appeal, very nice 👊
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 13
Nice diary
Terp1
Terp1week 12
Ich wünsche dir eine hervorragende Ernte. Ich finde deine Arbeit beeindruckend. 💪
Terp1
Terp1week 10
Wahnsinn.... einfach nur wahnsinn 😍
resimax
resimaxweek 1
Good luck and happy growing! 😎
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 16
Excellent diary , very informative. Harvest looking insane, those buds 😋
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@NegotiatedBubble, It make wonder, i start injecting co2 from last grow and i going to continue with it..
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@WhiteEdge, not a bad yield considering there is not any CO2 injection. Next flower will have CO2.
MedicineMaker
MedicineMakerweek 17
Looks like congratulations are in order bro! 👏 Awesome work and the buds look rock solid! 👏 Thank you for all the harvesting tips as well, I'll definitely try out the PAM spray, I was using rubbing alcohol... Good points as well on the wet trimming 🙏 I'll be using what I learned from you on my 2 current grows. Best of luck on the drying and curing my friend! 👈
MedicineMaker
MedicineMaker
@NegotiatedBubble, Every grow, we be better 👊 Your harvest is beautiful one. 👏 Thank you for sharing the book, it looks like a good read. I've been wanting to check out Ed's Cannabis Growers Handbook as well. Happy drying and curing 👈
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubble
@MedicineMaker, thanks! I learned a ton this time around and was glad to share it. I ran across the below harvesting book and was able to check out the digital version though my local library. The book has a lot of useless "filler", but still a great read toward the end.     Marijuana Harvest: How to Maximize Quality and Yield in Your Cannabis Garden, by Ed Rosenthal, David Downs